Community
Wiki Posts
Search

eSIM

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Sep 18, 2018 | 8:39 am
  #16  
10 Countries Visited
20 Countries Visited
80 Nights
15 Years on Site
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Long Island, NY
Programs: Marriott Titanium Elite/Lifetime Titanium, Delta Platinum Medallion, Hertz #1 Gold
Posts: 752
Originally Posted by Dubai Stu
I own an Apple iPhone X and a ZTE Axon 7. I would prefer to have a dual SIM iPhone, but don't want to empower my carrier too much. I have ATT's international unlimited for data. I love Apple's LTE band support. I love a lot of things about the iPhone. I prefer Apple Pay to Android Pay. I prefer the single secure password vault to the app-by-app approach I see in Android.

I don't love how I can't change some of the default apps for third party equivalents. I prefer Android Auto to Car Play and more relevant to this discussion, I like the apps that are country aware and will automatically change dialer settings when I cross a border. I prefer how Android gives the power to me rather than my carrier to make various settings. For example, with ATT I can't play a video with a lightening cable to an HDMI set because ATT has locked out tethering because of my data plan. Are those settings going to lock me out even if I switch data to other SIM in slot 1. I would also prefer to SIM slots to an ESIM, but would really like both.

At least on my Axon, I hate the fact that I can't stream most music through my USB and have to use inferior Bluetooth. My iPhone never seems to lockup. I have been frustrated at times with my Axon. While it is normally not a big deal, when driving it can be a huge deal.

When Apple announced the Xs, I was about to preorder it. I've since decided to wait and see how the implementation goes.
Originally Posted by Dubai Stu
Does this mean that I can't use this phone with my unlimited international plan (at least with a local SIM card in the other slot)?
Something tells me you're going to need to read the fine print of your grandfathered AT&T plan. Knowing AT&T, they might try to force you off of it for some stupid reason.

You can't use Lightning to HDMI adapters on your plan? Should be using internal phone data.
IslesFan is offline  
Old Sep 18, 2018 | 10:06 am
  #17  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
10 Countries Visited
All eyes on you!
15 Years on Site
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Upper Sternistan
Posts: 10,685
Originally Posted by powerlifter
I have an iPhone 6s when I download IOS 12 will I get an Esim? Just wondering.
Nope. eSIM is only for the new XS and XS Max.
josephstern is offline  
Old Sep 18, 2018 | 11:28 am
  #18  
10 Countries Visited
20 Countries Visited
30 Countries Visited
All eyes on you!
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: BWI,IAD,DCA
Programs: UA gold, Hyatt Plat Marriott silver,Hilton Gold, PC Plat., SPG Gold.,Hertz Gold, Global Entry
Posts: 657
Originally Posted by josephstern
Nope. eSIM is only for the new XS and XS Max.
I thought that but was not sure.
powerlifter is offline  
Old Sep 18, 2018 | 12:20 pm
  #19  
All eyes on you!
15 Years on Site
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Thailand, Phuket
Programs: Emirates, Thai, TK
Posts: 454
Originally Posted by bocastephen
I wonder if they will sell the physical dual-SIM model in Hong Kong, or will it just be in China? I prefer the dual SIM option, as I assume there is likely no way ATT will support the e-sim in their prepaid plans which is what I use.
Hong Kong sell the X max with physical dual sim card model.
bocastephen likes this.
merijn is offline  
Old Sep 18, 2018 | 12:22 pm
  #20  
10 Countries Visited
20 Countries Visited
30 Countries Visited
5 Years on Site
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: DFW
Posts: 675
Originally Posted by bocastephen
I wonder if they will sell the physical dual-SIM model in Hong Kong, or will it just be in China? I prefer the dual SIM option, as I assume there is likely no way ATT will support the e-sim in their prepaid plans which is what I use.
The physical dual SIM models will be sold in China, Hong Kong, and Macau.
vh_bu98 is offline  
Old Sep 18, 2018 | 12:27 pm
  #21  
All eyes on you!
15 Years on Site
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Thailand, Phuket
Programs: Emirates, Thai, TK
Posts: 454
Originally Posted by vh_bu98
The physical dual SIM models will be sold in China, Hong Kong, and Macau.
But can i buy the physical dual sim model on my holiday in Hong Kong and activate and use it after i leave Hong Kong?
I'm interested in the new X Max but as i live in Thailand we don't get it here.
Or i'm going for holiday to Hong Kong or somebody will take one for me back to Thailand but i don't know if this is possible for the activation.
merijn is offline  
Old Sep 18, 2018 | 12:33 pm
  #22  
10 Countries Visited
20 Countries Visited
30 Countries Visited
5 Years on Site
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: DFW
Posts: 675
Originally Posted by merijn
But can i buy the physical dual sim model on my holiday in Hong Kong and activate and use it after i leave Hong Kong?
I'm interested in the new X Max but as i live in Thailand we don't get it here.
Or i'm going for holiday to Hong Kong or somebody will take one for me back to Thailand but i don't know if this is possible for the activation.
The XS Max will be on sale Sept 21 in Hong Kong. Just put your Thailand SIM in it and activate it as the primary. Then put in the HK SIM as secondary.
vh_bu98 is offline  
Old Sep 18, 2018 | 12:48 pm
  #23  
All eyes on you!
15 Years on Site
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Thailand, Phuket
Programs: Emirates, Thai, TK
Posts: 454
Originally Posted by vh_bu98
The XS Max will be on sale Sept 21 in Hong Kong. Just put your Thailand SIM in it and activate it as the primary. Then put in the HK SIM as secondary.
I understand but i don't have a HK SIM and want to use it in Thailand.
So if somebody brings the phone from HK to Thailand for me can i activate the phone in Thailand with my Thai SIM?
merijn is offline  
Old Sep 18, 2018 | 12:58 pm
  #24  
10 Countries Visited
20 Countries Visited
30 Countries Visited
5 Years on Site
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: DFW
Posts: 675
Originally Posted by merijn
I understand but i don't have a HK SIM and want to use it in Thailand.
So if somebody brings the phone from HK to Thailand for me can i activate the phone in Thailand with my Thai SIM?
You should be able to if you're buying an unlocked version.
vh_bu98 is offline  
Old Sep 19, 2018 | 5:19 am
  #25  
20 Years on Site
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: NYC
Programs: No longer loyal "over-entitled" 1K
Posts: 3,825
Originally Posted by josephstern
Nope. eSIM is only for the new XS and XS Max.
And XR
kkjay77 is offline  
Old Sep 19, 2018 | 7:59 am
  #26  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
10 Countries Visited
All eyes on you!
15 Years on Site
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Upper Sternistan
Posts: 10,685
Originally Posted by kkjay77
And XR
Really? This page doesn't mention it:

https://support.apple.com/en-md/HT209044

Edit: I guess you're right. It is listed here:

https://www.apple.com/iphone-xr/specs/
josephstern is offline  
Old Sep 23, 2018 | 7:38 am
  #27  
All eyes on you!
15 Years on Site
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Detroit; Formerly Dubai
Posts: 3,676
Originally Posted by IslesFan
Something tells me you're going to need to read the fine print of your grandfathered AT&T plan. Knowing AT&T, they might try to force you off of it for some stupid reason.

You can't use Lightning to HDMI adapters on your plan? Should be using internal phone data.
I do. Most the videos were downloaded ahead of time over wifi. Prime is pretty good about allowing you to download videos ahead of time. I

Whether music streaming to my car stereo is any different to listening them through buds seems to be a debatable question.
Dubai Stu is offline  
Old Sep 23, 2018 | 7:41 am
  #28  
All eyes on you!
15 Years on Site
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Detroit; Formerly Dubai
Posts: 3,676
Originally Posted by merijn
I understand but i don't have a HK SIM and want to use it in Thailand.
So if somebody brings the phone from HK to Thailand for me can i activate the phone in Thailand with my Thai SIM?
Hong Kong SIMs are supercheap. I'd just grab one to be safe. After Apple kept insisting that they had to activate my ATT SIM on my unlocked iPhones. (I wait until the device neutral one comes out), I started purchasing el cheapo SIMs and just taking those in to ATT rather than letting them get near my iPhone international SIM. The $10 'tax' seems with it.
Dubai Stu is offline  
Old Sep 23, 2018 | 8:45 am
  #29  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
10 Countries Visited
All eyes on you!
15 Years on Site
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Upper Sternistan
Posts: 10,685
Originally Posted by Dubai Stu
Hong Kong SIMs are supercheap. I'd just grab one to be safe. After Apple kept insisting that they had to activate my ATT SIM on my unlocked iPhones. (I wait until the device neutral one comes out), I started purchasing el cheapo SIMs and just taking those in to ATT rather than letting them get near my iPhone international SIM. The $10 'tax' seems with it.
Just to be clear, the device neutral one is out with the rest this time. I got one already.
LIH Prem likes this.
josephstern is offline  
Old Sep 23, 2018 | 9:56 am
  #30  
All eyes on you!
15 Years on Site
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Detroit; Formerly Dubai
Posts: 3,676
Thanks. I'm going to take my Toggle Nano SIM down to Apple and push a new phone. My ATT contract SIM will stay at home.
Dubai Stu is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

This site is owned, operated, and maintained by MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Designated trademarks are the property of their respective owners.