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Old Feb 17, 2016 | 1:20 pm
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Originally Posted by timfountain
Single Core i5? What CPU would that be?
An old one. Thought it was single core. Don't have the unit to check any more.
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Old Feb 17, 2016 | 1:59 pm
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I'm not sure 1TB is "ludicrous capacity" and 1TB in M.2 isn't available at retail yet, just at very high cost through OEMs. Seeing as I'm running 2x 1TB now, I don't love having to buy a 2TB 2.5" disk with any of the new systems I'm looking at (except big workstation class ones) but none of the models I'm looking at (and I've given up on the P50 or Dell M7510 on cost grounds) take both an M.2 + a 2.5" drive.
Well, I did say "approaching," and a 2GB SSD is 75% larger than the SSD storage I currently have installed in my T420. I could get by for now by just swapping in my current 1TB drive (480GB available). The 2nd drive in the Ultrabay is used primarily as shared storage for my VMs.

The WWAN option is listed as M.2 form factor. I'm wondering if there's actually a 3rd slot for that, and if it's possible to repurpose it if you don't need WWAN.


I'd expect it to be 90W with no discrete GPU, and 135W with a dGPU -- the comparable Dell model can run on 65W with no dGPU. I've already weighed in on my opinion of the value of the 940MX although with no Iris Pro 580 option, it may still be enough better than the HD 530 for some users' needs.

Personally, if I get it, it will still be iGPU-only.
I'll be getting a dGPU model. My 3D gaming/simulation needs are relatively modest, but will likely exceed the capacity of the HD530.

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Old Apr 5, 2016 | 5:33 am
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Since this is a remnant of the thread where I started my search for a quad-core, 32GB laptop, I'm posting a link to another thread where I think I've finally found something to order
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Old Apr 5, 2016 | 9:04 am
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Originally Posted by Dodge DeBoulet
Since this is a remnant of the thread where I started my search for a quad-core, 32GB laptop, I'm posting a link to another thread where I think I've finally found something to order
Noted. As I said in that thread, I'll be waiting at least a bit to see how available the Iris Pro versions become over the next month or two.

OTOH, I've got a new higher-end model coming at work to hold me over.
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Old Apr 5, 2016 | 12:19 pm
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New hardware? Moore's law slowing down so slightly faster processors, slighty more battery life and the same slight improvements in the various pieces of hardware. Is this really threadworthy?
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Old Apr 5, 2016 | 1:55 pm
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Originally Posted by ou81two
New hardware? Moore's law slowing down so slightly faster processors, slighty more battery life and the same slight improvements in the various pieces of hardware. Is this really threadworthy?
Obviously, for some of us, yes. You're of course free to ignore the thread.
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Old Apr 5, 2016 | 5:02 pm
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Originally Posted by ou81two
New hardware? Moore's law slowing down so slightly faster processors, slighty more battery life and the same slight improvements in the various pieces of hardware. Is this really threadworthy?
Since there were no quad-core Broadwell laptops from business manufacturers (and only a handful in gaming lines), the jump is two generations ahead from Haswell.

The biggest incentive is the increased memory limit: reasonably compact machines with 32gb+ are now possible, and workstation-class machines can now go to 64gb. (Also, compared to the handful of Broadwell systems one might actually want to go that high on memory in, the move to DDR4 is starting to make bigger memory affordable.)

Compared to the Haswell generation, the speed bump of the new cores is also non-trivial even if not huge, and the increase in batter life and iGPU performance even more so.
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Old May 13, 2016 | 12:04 am
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Well, a bunch of these actually in the field.

32GB is nice, if you need it.
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Old May 13, 2016 | 4:36 am
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Originally Posted by nkedel
Well, a bunch of these actually in the field.

32GB is nice, if you need it.
Came within a hair's breadth of ordering early last week, but have been (and will be) away from home for a bit. I want to be around when it arrives.
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Old May 13, 2016 | 4:59 am
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Originally Posted by roberino
An old one. Thought it was single core. Don't have the unit to check any more.
It was not. There never was a single core i5. Mobile i5 is dual core, desktop i5 is quad core. Skylake changed this: normal voltage i5 is quad.
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Old May 13, 2016 | 8:11 am
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There has been nothing that is compelling enough to spend on an upgrade to hold me over for the next 3-4 years, but my laptop IS showing some battle wear and has had some difficulty turning off and on these days. Five years of service in factories around the globe is a full tour. I decided to pick up something inexpensive and use that for a year until something comes along compelling enough to get me to open my wallet further.

$500 picked up an open box Thinkpad E560. It's not super svelte and it isn't a scorcher on performance, but it will do the job. Maybe a little less sturdy than the T series I'd been loyal to but I'm not planning to keep this five years like my T520. I think I'll like having the numeric keypad - I have to key in ASCII key values now and then and it is a real pain on laptops without that.

The $500 open box unit has a i7-6500U, AMD Radeon R7 M370 2gb video, Win 10 Pro, 15.6" FHD IPS display, and 8gb RAM + conventional 500gb hard drive. Another $26 brings the RAM to 16gb and another $125 brings a 512gb SSD. For $650 after mods I'm feeling pretty good on that. Let's see what they can do for a quad-core+HT low voltage chip in the year to come!

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Old May 13, 2016 | 10:00 am
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Originally Posted by Dodge DeBoulet
Came within a hair's breadth of ordering early last week, but have been (and will be) away from home for a bit. I want to be around when it arrives.
I ordered mine when the E5470 hit the outlet; I wanted to to see if they refreshed it with the Iris Pro, but getting a better machine for $800 (before upgrades) proved irresistable.

Gets hot, runs the processor at 35W TDP rather than the full 45W, but the combination of 32GB (which makes it better for my work), two generations newer CPU (may not be as fast as a full 45W machine of the current generation, but definitely faster than the 37W Haswell machine I had!), and significantly better compactness and ergonomics, plus a much more travel-friendly 35W adapter (vs. 130W on my prior one) make it a major winner in my book.

I will miss the beautiful HiDPI screen on the M3800. Probably can't justify keeping it around just for Photoshop, though, especially with ~6 months left on the warranty when someone might actually pay me something for it.

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It was not. There never was a single core i5. Mobile i5 is dual core, desktop i5 is quad core. Skylake changed this: normal voltage i5 is quad.
Yup, definitely no single-core Core-i machines of any sort (I can't remember if there were any single core Celerons based onthe same architecture, but I think the last single core Celerons were based on an older architecture.

There were both dual-core and quad-core desktop i5s in the first generation of i5s (2010). Those went away after 2010, although there have been some desktops using laptop dual-core i5s since (most recently, Intel's NUC barebones machines.)
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Old May 13, 2016 | 1:12 pm
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Originally Posted by nkedel
I can't remember if there were any single core Celerons based onthe same architecture, but I think the last single core Celerons were based on an older architecture.
The Celeron 787 was no dream it was indeed single core and Sandy Bridge based. There were a few such.
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Old May 13, 2016 | 4:04 pm
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Originally Posted by chx1975
The Celeron 787 was no dream it was indeed single core and Sandy Bridge based. There were a few such.
Sure enough, and... em, bleh. Given how dog slow the Celeron 847 (Sandy Bridge, dual core) was, I can't even imagine having used something like the 787 in anything short of embedded applications: but it looks like that was sold as a laptop CPU rather than embedded.

I guess it was probably still preferable to the then-current Atoms, although 17W wasn't all that good on power even back then.
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Old May 20, 2016 | 11:08 am
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So, order placed yesterday for a Lenovo T460p, i7-6820HQ, WQHD display, 72Wh battery, 4GB RAM and 500GB 7200RPM hard drive along with two (mechanical) ultra docks.

Ordered separately were 1 2TB Samsung 850 Pro SSD and 32GB of RAM.

Assuming it all works when I assemble everything, the quest I started in August of last year will be complete
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