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Old Jun 14, 2012 | 8:57 pm
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Firefox 13 causing Flash to crash?

Firefox auto updated to Firefox 13 and Flash player has been crashing ever since.


I had no problems with Chrome which is the other browser I use.

I don't know if it has to do with the Flash player update, because I think there was update released with the update for Firefox.



Anyone else having this problem?
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Old Jun 15, 2012 | 7:17 am
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I have not had the problem... Flash applications work fine so far.
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Old Jun 15, 2012 | 7:26 am
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I switch to Nightly and UX since they work so much better in 64-bit environments. They occasionally have compatibility issues, but overall operate smoother than normal FF did.
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Old Jun 15, 2012 | 8:04 am
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Just now I forced my Firefox to update, and it upgraded itself to 10.0.5. I don't know how you got to version 13...
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Old Jun 15, 2012 | 9:17 am
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Originally Posted by RobertS975
I have not had the problem... Flash applications work fine so far.
Because you haven't played flash games or watched videos yet. I have the same problem in FF 13. Videos and games are not displayed accurately and only black screen Shockwave Flash v. 11.3.300.257, but when I switched to FF12, the problem gone.
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Old Jun 15, 2012 | 9:39 am
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Originally Posted by pittpanther
Just now I forced my Firefox to update, and it upgraded itself to 10.0.5. I don't know how you got to version 13...
Try updating again. Latest stable version is 13 - http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/all.html
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Old Jun 15, 2012 | 1:57 pm
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I reinstalled Firefox 13 and it is still crashing. Where can I find a copy of Firefox 12 and how can I turn off the auto update on it?
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Old Jun 15, 2012 | 2:20 pm
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Originally Posted by pittpanther
Just now I forced my Firefox to update, and it upgraded itself to 10.0.5. I don't know how you got to version 13...
Last time I used the internal update, it made me do one (so called) major version at a time.

You can skip all that and just download the new version if you prefer. Or let it keep updating itself one version at a time.

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Old Jun 15, 2012 | 2:39 pm
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Turn off allowing Firefox to auto-update!

I just went from 3 to 5. Utterly stable and small footprint.

Going immediately-upon-release to the latest version means that in reality you'll be part of the beta testing program, and, more importantly (to me, anyway) you run the strong risk of disabling some/more-than-some of your extensions.
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Old Jun 15, 2012 | 5:19 pm
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http://www.h-online.com/open/news/it...h-1619399.html

Reads to me like it's a Flash problem, not a FF problem.

Regardless, the FF 13.0.1 upddate is supposed to fix it
What’s New
Flash 11.3 sometimes caused a crash on quit (747683, fixed in 13.0.1)

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Old Jun 15, 2012 | 8:25 pm
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Try updating again. Latest stable version is 13 - http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/all.html
Interesting. I don't use FF very often. I just went to the "About" window and pressed "check for updates." It responds with "No updates found." I am on 10.0.5.

I notice that the "About" window says "Firefox ESR" and also says "You are currently on the ESR update channel." Any idea what that means?

Some slight Googling leads me to believe that because I downloaded FF from my company, not directly from FF, that my updates are much more limited compared to the "regular" world. That explains why I don't see version 13.x.
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Old Jun 16, 2012 | 12:38 am
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I was curious about ESR, so I searched using your quoted text. ESR is Extended Support Release. It's for people like cblaisd who don't want to auto-update to the latest release as it becomes available.

http://arstechnica.com/business/2012...se-challenges/
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Old Jun 16, 2012 | 5:49 am
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Originally Posted by cblaisd
Turn off allowing Firefox to auto-update!

I just went from 3 to 5. Utterly stable and small footprint.

Going immediately-upon-release to the latest version means that in reality you'll be part of the beta testing program, and, more importantly (to me, anyway) you run the strong risk of disabling some/more-than-some of your extensions.
This is generally very bad advice with regards to web browsers. These are periodically upgraded for security vulnerability patches; as a seasoned user you may be able to watch out for sites and content that would put you at risk but the average user will not. The extension comparability issue is far smaller than it was in the early days of FF.

There's a reason that all of the browsers are moving away from upgrades that require user intervention to a background silent upgrade model.

Oh and think of the JavaScript performance! this makes a massive difference on modern websites.
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Old Jun 16, 2012 | 6:53 am
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ESR is typically used by schools, corporations, etc. that don't want to execute a full validation process against functional releases every 6 weeks, which is the current FF rapid release schedule. Mozilla took one baseline release - v10 iirc, and will apply only the security patches from each incremental release and roll them out as an ESR dot release.

So ESR users only get functionality updates once a year, which is the planned cycle for full ESR releases. If you're on ESR 10.0.5 you are running FF10 with the security patches of the releases since. You'll get no new functionality until what is planned to be ESR 17, which will be based on FF17 in 5-6 months.

The official Mozilla description is here - ESR Overview

I agree that running old software is a bad idea - 11 releases worth of security updates have been made since FF5. Not to mention the start-up acceleration in FF6, the 50% memory usage reduction in FF7, SPDY inclusion, javascript performance increases, etc. Your choice though.
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Old Jun 16, 2012 | 8:44 am
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I think I'll use Chrome until FF fixes the crashing.
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