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Old Apr 24, 2012 | 9:30 am
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Originally Posted by dtsm
Keep in mind 2 step good for 30 days per individual computer. And you don't need smartphone. You can also print out a set of verification codes [they come in packets of 10 sets]. I do this as a backup and store in 1Password plus Dropbox. That way, if I am in remote site or overseas, can still access.
Another good tip, feature. That. Could. Work. For the parents. Maybe. I could print out the list of 10 and give it to them and say, listen every 30 days, outlook is going to come looking for a new password to access gMail, just use the next one on the list. Yes, they'd have a printout list of their next ~10 months worth of passwords sitting there (knowing them, right next to their computer). But, it's in their house. On the grand scale, the guy breaking into the house would probably be more interested in the physical computer than what it had access to.


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Old Apr 24, 2012 | 12:45 pm
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Originally Posted by jsnydcsa
Another good tip, feature. That. Could. Work. For the parents. Maybe. I could print out the list of 10 and give it to them and say, listen every 30 days, outlook is going to come looking for a new password to access gMail, just use the next one on the list. Yes, they'd have a printout list of their next ~10 months worth of passwords sitting there (knowing them, right next to their computer). But, it's in their house. On the grand scale, the guy breaking into the house would probably be more interested in the physical computer than what it had access to.


Thanks for the tip.
No, this is incorrect. The 10 codes are just for accessing Gmail from the web. If you're using Outlook you generate a device-specific password and give that password to Outlook. Device-specific passwords don't expire, so you'd never need to change them.
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Old Apr 25, 2012 | 12:13 pm
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Originally Posted by gfunkdave
No, this is incorrect. The 10 codes are just for accessing Gmail from the web. If you're using Outlook you generate a device-specific password and give that password to Outlook. .
I access gmail on my computer via the web, and was referring to accessing it via the 2 step verification process. I don't use Outlook so unfamiliar with how it would work. On my iPhone, it is a device-specific password but I thought OP said his parents don't have smartphones?
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Old Apr 25, 2012 | 12:44 pm
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Originally Posted by dtsm
I access gmail on my computer via the web, and was referring to accessing it via the 2 step verification process. I don't use Outlook so unfamiliar with how it would work. On my iPhone, it is a device-specific password but I thought OP said his parents don't have smartphones?
I was referring to jsnydcsa's scenario, where his parents use Outlook to access Gmail. In that case, you'd use a device-specific password for Outlook to access Gmail.
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Old Apr 25, 2012 | 1:23 pm
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Originally Posted by gfunkdave
No, this is incorrect. The 10 codes are just for accessing Gmail from the web. If you're using Outlook you generate a device-specific password and give that password to Outlook. Device-specific passwords don't expire, so you'd never need to change them.
Thanks for the clarification. That makes it even easier! S/S 'Listen Mom and Dad, your password is a randomly generated code of gobbledygook. That's the most secure and it's at least program - Outlook - specific. Just go with that for me, please.' Sip Jameson's (no, wait, summer, sip Hendrick's) and wait for their baffled response. Repeat.

Dad just picked up a Dell laptop ("the iPad is too difficult"), so I'm setting that up this weekend and may implement this.
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Old Apr 25, 2012 | 1:39 pm
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I feel ya bro, I sometimes wish I'd never pushed my parents to start using a computer.
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Old Apr 25, 2012 | 2:19 pm
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Originally Posted by jsnydcsa
Thanks for the clarification. That makes it even easier! S/S 'Listen Mom and Dad, your password is a randomly generated code of gobbledygook. That's the most secure and it's at least program - Outlook - specific. Just go with that for me, please.' Sip Jameson's (no, wait, summer, sip Hendrick's) and wait for their baffled response. Repeat.

Dad just picked up a Dell laptop ("the iPad is too difficult"), so I'm setting that up this weekend and may implement this.
The iPad is too difficult, so he got a laptop?? If an iPad is too difficult perhaps a good old fashioned telephone is in order...

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Old Apr 28, 2012 | 1:34 pm
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I feel ya bro, I sometimes wish I'd never pushed my parents to start using a computer.
I'm right there with you on that!
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Old Apr 30, 2012 | 2:23 pm
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To bring it full circle. I set this device specific password up over the weekend and it's working like a charm. Parents both appreciate the added security.

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The iPad is too difficult, so he got a laptop?? If an iPad is too difficult perhaps a good old fashioned telephone is in order...
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The Google 2-step is a bit of a pain in the butt, but it does seem to be more safe. ^
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Old Apr 30, 2012 | 2:48 pm
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Originally Posted by magiciansampras
The Google 2-step is a bit of a pain in the butt, but it does seem to be more safe. ^
I just started using it after reading this thread. I'm not yet 100% sold on it. It definitely makes my Google account safer from hacking, but it adds a hassle factor.
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Old Apr 30, 2012 | 2:51 pm
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Originally Posted by SRQ Guy
I just started using it after reading this thread. I'm not yet 100% sold on it. It definitely makes my Google account safer from hacking, but it adds a hassle factor.
Yeah.. I also worry about situations in which I need to use a computer to quickly find something in my email and I don't have my phone with me or something. I suppose those situations are rare, but I do worry about the odd exceptional situation.
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Old Apr 30, 2012 | 2:53 pm
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Originally Posted by magiciansampras
Yeah.. I also worry about situations in which I need to use a computer to quickly find something in my email and I don't have my phone with me or something. I suppose those situations are rare, but I do worry about the odd exceptional situation.
They do offer a list of 10 "backup codes" that when printed is similar to the the size of a credit card. Each code can be used once. I keep mine in my wallet.
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Old Apr 30, 2012 | 2:54 pm
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They do offer a list of 10 "backup codes" that when printed is similar to the the size of a credit card. Each code can be used once. I keep mine in my wallet.
Yeah I did that too. Still nervous.

It also is a pain if you use a computer that is set to not allow cookies.
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Old May 1, 2012 | 12:26 am
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I like 2 step authentication, I use it myself. But what about for my parents, who are rudimentary cell phone users, and not only that, travel enough overseas that they can't receive the verification codes while on the road?

I suppose I just have to hope they don't get hacked? Or ask them to make their passwords longer?
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