Passwords
#1
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Passwords
Figuring I need to get a bit smarter about internet security. Currently I use about four or five passwords across all my accounts, ideally I'd like to have unique passwords per account to minimise some risk.
Ideally I'd like to a single password store that securely auto populates my passwords, retains a cloud store of what I have but is very secure. Need something that works in IE, Firefox and iOS.
Any thoughts or experiences on a good option?
Ideally I'd like to a single password store that securely auto populates my passwords, retains a cloud store of what I have but is very secure. Need something that works in IE, Firefox and iOS.
Any thoughts or experiences on a good option?
#2
Join Date: Jan 2011
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You can use patterned passwords. They are easy to remember and if the pattern is complex enough very secure. You can have one core part of the password, modified/extended by e.g. website's URL, color, subject, etc.
#3
Join Date: Jun 2002
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Figuring I need to get a bit smarter about internet security. Currently I use about four or five passwords across all my accounts, ideally I'd like to have unique passwords per account to minimise some risk.
Ideally I'd like to a single password store that securely auto populates my passwords, retains a cloud store of what I have but is very secure. Need something that works in IE, Firefox and iOS.
Ideally I'd like to a single password store that securely auto populates my passwords, retains a cloud store of what I have but is very secure. Need something that works in IE, Firefox and iOS.
another option is lastpass but it won't sync across devices.
#4
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another option is lastpass but it won't sync across devices.
It generates arbitrary-length random passwords (things like fjFJ38f;dnep0S_) and stores them encrypted on LastPass's servers. They never see your password; all encryption/decryption is done on your computer. There are browser plugins for Chrome, IE, and Firefox, and there are apps for iOS and Android. It syncs your passwords across all your devices, will auto-fill login forms, and makes it about as easy as possible to have a different random password for every site.
It even supports two-factor auth, one time passwords, and other fun things for the truly paranoid (like me).
CHeck it out!
#5
Join Date: Jun 2002
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Incorrect. I use Lastpass exclusively. It syncs across all your devices.
It generates arbitrary-length random passwords (things like fjFJ38f;dnep0S_) and stores them encrypted on LastPass's servers. They never see your password; all encryption/decryption is done on your computer. There are browser plugins for Chrome, IE, and Firefox, and there are apps for iOS and Android. It syncs your passwords across all your devices, will auto-fill login forms, and makes it about as easy as possible to have a different random password for every site.
It generates arbitrary-length random passwords (things like fjFJ38f;dnep0S_) and stores them encrypted on LastPass's servers. They never see your password; all encryption/decryption is done on your computer. There are browser plugins for Chrome, IE, and Firefox, and there are apps for iOS and Android. It syncs your passwords across all your devices, will auto-fill login forms, and makes it about as easy as possible to have a different random password for every site.
what i like about 1password is that there's a local copy, so you don't need connectivity to access anything and if you don't have connectivity, updates to/from other devices are deferred until you do.
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On the mobile apps (or at least on the Android one, which is the only one I've used), there's an option to force a local logon and just use the cached info.
Other than that, it's seamless. Your description of 1password is how LastPass works, too.
#8
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Thanks all. Had a look at both 1password and Lastpass, quite like the fact that Lastpass stores the passwords locally which feels a tad more secure that 1password approach. Other than that both look spot on for what I need.
I'll give Lastpass a trial on the free version and see how I get on. You need the pro version at $1 a month to try mobile.
Thanks for the help, great suggestions for what I was looking for.^
I'll give Lastpass a trial on the free version and see how I get on. You need the pro version at $1 a month to try mobile.
Thanks for the help, great suggestions for what I was looking for.^
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I don't think there's anything wrong with either one, but if you're going to choose one over the other, at least make sure it's for an accurate reason. lastpass pro supports a lot more mobile devices than 1password does, that would be a good reason to choose it IMO. The other reason is that you have to pay for the apps with 1password (once for the mac app, once for the pc app, once for the ios app) vs the $1 a month charge for lastpass pro. ("once" means for any number of those devices/OS).
-David
Last edited by LIH Prem; Dec 18, 2011 at 5:04 am
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Lastpass stores encrypted passwords on their servers, but each device you have maintains a local cache. As a whole, I've been impressed with LastPass's dedication to security and openness when things go wrong. Several months ago, for example, a routine audit of their systems showed that someone may have been able to download encrypted hashes of people's passwords and the server salt. If it actually happened (they weren't sure), then at most 50-100 accounts would have been compromised if they were using weak passwords. So LastPass made all users change their master passwords, thereby making the purported theft, if that's what it was, useless.
#13

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This cartoon makes an interesting point. Longer passwords are inherently more secure than short, complex passwords. Unfortunately, some web sites limit password length and others have complexity requirements. So although "correcthorsebatterystaple" is now a password I will never forget, it is an impractical choice. And before anyone says it, yeah, you could perform a limited size dictionary attack against that particular password fairly efficiently.
#14

Join Date: Aug 2005
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I wrote my own Visual C++ app to maintain a password repository, along with some other usual functions. Honestly, I feel for non-IT folks when it comes to passwords. I currently have 82 separate accounts I have to keep track of. Products like the ones mentioned upthread are probably a must in this day and age.

