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Dodge DeBoulet Dec 6, 2011 5:54 pm
Originally Posted by Dunbar (Post 17579243)
Web browsing is much faster on ios5 which is particularly noticeable on the iPad. Before ios5 I found web browsing too slow to be useful but now it's quick enough that I no longer mind. I'm surprised Apple made no mention of the faster browser experience.
While I agree that it's much faster, part of the speed increase is from a much greater reliance on locally cached pages. For me, this often results in getting a very old page when tapping the "back" button, especially on FlyerTalk (although I've experienced it on other web sites as well).

Safari also seems more fragile in iOS5, resulting in a greater incidence of browser crashes, the sporadic inability to properly display embedded Youtube videos, and other browsing anomalies.

star_world Dec 6, 2011 7:13 pm
Originally Posted by PorkRind (Post 17579407)
While I agree that it's much faster, part of the speed increase is from a much greater reliance on locally cached pages. For me, this often results in getting a very old page when tapping the "back" button, especially on FlyerTalk (although I've experienced it on other web sites as well).
To be fair, this is generally how desktop web browsers (IE / FF / Chrome) work as well.

Dodge DeBoulet Dec 6, 2011 9:13 pm
Originally Posted by star_world (Post 17579772)
To be fair, this is generally how desktop web browsers (IE / FF / Chrome) work as well.
That may be how desktop browsers work, but they're much better at it than the latest Safari on the iPad. While previous versions may have been slower, they were much more accurate in displaying the correct version of the content you've navigated to, whether via the "back" button or some other mechanism.

JohnnyColombia Dec 7, 2011 7:01 am
Originally Posted by star_world (Post 17579106)
The comparison with BBM is correct. It's all data to the mobile provider, they do not charge for anything related to iMessage other than the few kb of data you are using. So to answer your questions -

1a - free for both
1b - just the charge for x kb of data that they send over the mobile network as they would for any other data. UK, Colombia, international rates, etc don't enter the equation.
2a - free for both
2b - this will be sent as data, regardless of whether you're on 3G or wifi. Won't be sent as SMS if the person you're sending to has an iOS device and that address (phone number or email) is registered with iMessage.

Any time it appears as a blue message it's an iMessage and only subject to regular data rates.
Great thanks

One more question, just looking at an iMessage conversation that I had and one of the comments is green, at the time I was riding down the side of a mountain and coming back into a pueblo (and back into network coverage) does this mean that data wasnt available and it was sent as a SMS?

nmenaker Dec 7, 2011 7:50 am
There is no charge for iMessage, it is simply a chatting program that mimics an SMS texting program, but there really is no way for you to target a phone number directly. The only charge is for however you access data, and it uses something like 12kb per message.

nmenaker Dec 7, 2011 7:52 am
yes
 
Originally Posted by JohnnyColombia (Post 17582079)
Great thanks

One more question, just looking at an iMessage conversation that I had and one of the comments is green, at the time I was riding down the side of a mountain and coming back into a pueblo (and back into network coverage) does this mean that data wasnt available and it was sent as a SMS?
yes, if you are on a phone (and not say on an ipad wifi only) then sometimes if either YOU or the RECIPIENT isn't online, they message will go out as an SMS since I don't think there is really any gateway for iMessages to cache and send later. So, iMessage will send it as an SMS which has a gateway and caching and then that person will get it via SMS once they get back into coverage.

LIH Prem Dec 7, 2011 5:30 pm
Originally Posted by nmenaker (Post 17582333)
So, iMessage will send it as an SMS which has a gateway and caching and then that person will get it via SMS once they get back into coverage.
there's a setting for iMessage (send as SMS.) Mine is ON, but I think the default is OFF.

Nice explanation.

-David

star_world Dec 7, 2011 7:33 pm
Originally Posted by nmenaker (Post 17582333)
yes, if you are on a phone (and not say on an ipad wifi only) then sometimes if either YOU or the RECIPIENT isn't online, they message will go out as an SMS since I don't think there is really any gateway for iMessages to cache and send later. So, iMessage will send it as an SMS which has a gateway and caching and then that person will get it via SMS once they get back into coverage.
I wonder what happens if you're sending to or from a device that only has an email address registered? Must give it a try.

LIH Prem Dec 7, 2011 11:13 pm
Originally Posted by star_world (Post 17586486)
I wonder what happens if you're sending to or from a device that only has an email address registered? Must give it a try.
it fails if it can't get through, there a red exclamation point next to the sent message that says it failed, and you can retry from there.

the interesting thing is for ios5 device to ios5 device, messaging defaults to iMessage. (It says iMessage greyed out in the text box).

-David


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