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Dubai Stu Oct 14, 2011 5:29 am


Originally Posted by joejones (Post 17270704)
I forgot to mention iMessage, because I still can't get it to work, nor can I tell why I need it.

I can't speak as to you, but I have friends with iPhones in Dubai, Australia, an the UK. We have been using Whatsapp to text for free. iMessage would be similarly helpful. The thing is Whatsapp is very cheap and often free and is cross platform so you can chat with friends using Blackberries, Nokias, and Androids as well.

richarddd Oct 14, 2011 5:33 am


Originally Posted by Rotodavid123 (Post 17271547)
Found my screen a little less responsive. Maybe it was just me.

Same here. Very slight difference

fligster Oct 14, 2011 5:56 am


Originally Posted by joejones (Post 17272196)

This I still can't find. I can choose "Remind Me," and then it asks for a date. Or I can set a priority or add notes. But those are the only options available. Nothing about "zones" anywhere.

Maybe I am just getting old and having trouble adjusting, but these new apps seem really non-intuitive.

Mine wasn't showing up either, I had to set Reminders up in iCloud settings and then also, change my reminder "list" to icloud. You can read about it here

https://discussions.apple.com/thread...art=0&tstart=0

Also, Some are saying it is not available on 3gs ...

FFMilesJunkie Oct 14, 2011 6:01 am


Originally Posted by joejones (Post 17272196)
This I still can't find. I can choose "Remind Me," and then it asks for a date. Or I can set a priority or add notes. But those are the only options available. Nothing about "zones" anywhere.

Maybe I am just getting old and having trouble adjusting, but these new apps seem really non-intuitive.

Must be disabled on the 3GS. On the 4, after you enter the reminder you have a choice to "Remind Me" "On a Day", or "At a Location". When you select "At a Location" you can select "When I Leave" or "When I Arrive", then choose the location either Current Location or a location from your address book.
You can also set a priority and include notes in the reminder.

This is a great new feature that I already used a couple times yesterday. I already have it set to remind me to do something when I get to work this morning.

With the iPhone 4S, I'm assuming you can set these reminders using Siri voice recognation.

Another nice new feature is the ability to quickly access your camera from the lock screen and take a picture using the volume up button.

nmenaker Oct 14, 2011 7:48 am

Yeah, mail works fine in notifications, it is turned off by default since I think it would be a lot of mail for most coming out of the gates. They would most likely ALL appear to be NEW with a new device. I turned it off again after testing it, I don't need pop-ups. I have things like textfree setup for notifications and a couple others. I woud like to see things like copilot and some other GPS add to the notification screen.

ONE thing I don't like and maybe it is just user error, but at least on the iphone 4, with reminders one cannot actually SET an address for location based reminders. The only option for setting a location is to select a CONTACT and their respective address. This works fine for HOME and something like that, but for a random event and location it seems cumbersome. I'd like to be able to just select from a map, googlemaps etc., and have that proximity work.

fligster Oct 14, 2011 9:14 am


Originally Posted by nmenaker (Post 17273177)

ONE thing I don't like and maybe it is just user error, but at least on the iphone 4, with reminders one cannot actually SET an address for location based reminders. The only option for setting a location is to select a CONTACT and their respective address. This works fine for HOME and something like that, but for a random event and location it seems cumbersome. I'd like to be able to just select from a map, googlemaps etc., and have that proximity work.

Looks like only current location or contact address. Another thing it looks like if you use location reminder, the GPS is constantly active which may affect battery life.

Spiff Oct 14, 2011 10:20 am


Originally Posted by ale.penazzi (Post 17271588)

3 hours? There must be something wrong with your iPhone.. The whole update process took 20 minutes to me.. 9 minutes to back up, 3 minutes to update, 8 minutes to have all my data back into my phone.

Apple's servers were slammed on Wednesday. Hence many people's 2-3 hour experience was do to numerous retries to connect with the servers.

timfountain Oct 14, 2011 10:24 am


Originally Posted by Rotodavid123 (Post 17271547)
Setup on my ipad2 took almost 2 hours, followed by a crash and then a restore. But we're good to go now.
Found my screen a little less responsive. Maybe it was just me.
Haven't tried iMessage yet.

Agreed, things seems to be taking a little longer (power on, time to respond to pressing an icon). Small but noticeable. Also feel like power draw when using the iPad is higher. My son was playing rocket math last night and I was surprised to see 93% after only 15 minutes of playing.
Upgrade also was very painful, one failed backup (error -5000, with no help from google). Next backup took almost 2 hours and then I went to bed. In the morning it had applied the update but no apps and no music and no anything. Had to do a 2 stage restore with several app installs erroring with various iTunes
- Tim

fligster Oct 14, 2011 11:17 am

I haven't noticed any slowdown on iPad 2 or iPhone 4, but my wife said her iPhone seems to be draining battery quicker.

I have had some freezing problems with iTunes on windows 7.

dranz Oct 14, 2011 11:26 am

A bad feechur:

If iOS 5 becomes constained on storage space, it will automagically invoke a
new "cleanup" feechur ... and delete (your) data files to free-up space ...
without asking.

Grrrr.

weekilter Oct 14, 2011 6:16 pm


Originally Posted by joejones (Post 17270596)
So I did the upgrade yesterday on my iPhone 3GS... and I want three hours of my life back.

The upgrade was a grueling process, as iTunes for some reason had to back up everything on the phone, write the new OS to it, and then copy all my apps and data back to the phone. Unfortunately, iTunes crashed three hours into the upgrade, having restored all of my apps but none of my media. When I tried to sync the phone to get the media onto it, iTunes helpfully offered to backup and re-initialize the phone once more. No thanks.

Anyway, here's what's different in the new iOS, as far as I can tell:
  • Pull-down notifications screen. This would be nice if it were more functional -- but there are many apps which won't show up on it even though they obviously should. Mail doesn't work with it, for instance. Why the heck not? :td:
  • Week calendar view. I've been using the Week Cal app for a while to get this function, and it works really well. Apple's implementation is really bad; there is no zooming, so you can only see the same three hours of three days at once. What's the point? :td:
  • Newsstand. Oh joy. Now I can pay to read the MSM on my phone. :rolleyes:
  • Syncing over Wi-Fi. This would be kind of cool... if my computer was willing to cooperate with my phone. :(
  • Reminders app. I can't figure out how I'm supposed to use this. It can't tell whether it's a calendar or a to-do list. :confused:
  • Old "iPod" app is now split into "Music" and "Videos" apps. Oh joy. Another icon I don't need on my home screen. :td:

The good news is that iOS 5 makes it possible to avoid using iTunes on the desktop entirely. The bad news is that there are many things you still cannot do without a computer that has iTunes, such as automatically updating podcasts and adding MP3s to your music library.

If Steve had a grave, I think he would be rolling in it now...

You seem to think that Steve Jobs had no say in the way iOS 5 was fashioned. Probably not so. If you dislike iOS so much you know you could just sell your phone on eBay or Craigslist and by a Droid if you really don't like the way it turned out.

Dubai Stu Oct 14, 2011 7:29 pm


Originally Posted by weekilter (Post 17276328)
You seem to think that Steve Jobs had no say in the way iOS 5 was fashioned. Probably not so. If you dislike iOS so much you know you could just sell your phone on eBay or Craigslist and by a Droid if you really don't like the way it turned out.

If you can't get Reminders working, then check out Reqall. It is similar and has voice services.

richarddd Oct 14, 2011 7:49 pm


Originally Posted by dranz (Post 17274429)
A bad feechur:

If iOS 5 becomes constained on storage space, it will automagically invoke a
new "cleanup" feechur ... and delete (your) data files to free-up space ...
without asking.

Grrrr.

A bunch of developers really dislike that - they figure they'll be blamed for the data files disappearing.

richarddd Oct 14, 2011 7:50 pm

BTW, it seems possible to downgrade back to 4.3 if you find 5 distasteful. Lots of how-to info out there.

Mr. Bean Oct 14, 2011 8:32 pm

I tried it out in beta, downgraded back to 4.3.3. Somehow lost all my contacts and itunes backups when I upgraded. Not a huge deal as I had them backed up elsewhere too, but still :confused:


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