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UALOneKPlus Oct 15, 2011 1:31 am


Originally Posted by weekilter (Post 17276328)
You seem to think that Steve Jobs had no say in the way iOS 5 was fashioned. Probably not so. If you dislike iOS so much you know you could just sell your phone on eBay or Craigslist and by a Droid if you really don't like the way it turned out.

Oh look, another Apple fanboy who thinks Apple can do no wrong, and critics should return their iOS devices rather than make legitimate complaints. These types of response are really non-helpful, and seem all too common with the Apple cult.

joejones Oct 15, 2011 2:02 am

FWIW, I really like the form and functionality of iOS, and probably won't be moving over to Droid any time soon -- if only because Apple does internationalization way better than Google does. I need a phone that can "speak" both English and Japanese, and the iPhone is basically the only one on the market that can with any level of "fluency."

But this version is a disappointment. I'm still trying to fix the phone so it will sync with my media library again. No dice...

DownTheRappitHole Oct 15, 2011 3:52 am

Nice to see Apple pull a Microsoft with the "newstand" crapware that can't be deleted and can't be shoved off into a folder like other crapware (youtube, stocks) :mad:

amolkold Oct 15, 2011 4:17 am

For wi-fi sync, you have to plug in the phone to the computer, go into iTunes, and select "Sync over Wi-Fi" (or something like that ... I had to check mark something, but now my iPhone syncs over wifi)

Although I'm not a fan of these extra apps I don't need ... videos? Newsstand?

And while I like the local weather feature, why doesn't the iPad have a weather app or stock app?? Seriously, I feel like those would be great on the iPad given some extra functionality!

nmenaker Oct 15, 2011 1:14 pm

you can
 

Originally Posted by DownTheRappitHole (Post 17277721)
Nice to see Apple pull a Microsoft with the "newstand" crapware that can't be deleted and can't be shoved off into a folder like other crapware (youtube, stocks) :mad:

you CAN move it, it just takes a bit of fast fingers. Put IT an another item into a folder together, while you move item A into a NEW folder, quickly move newstand in to the same NEW folder too. Done. It won't WORK from within the folder, but it keeps it out of reach.

chelmkamp Oct 15, 2011 2:50 pm


Originally Posted by DownTheRappitHole (Post 17277721)
Nice to see Apple pull a Microsoft with the "newstand" crapware that can't be deleted and can't be shoved off into a folder like other crapware (youtube, stocks) :mad:

Move it to an empty last page of apps and forget about it?

Just sayin.

It's actually the app I use the most on the iPad -- magazines/newspapers look great on the iPad, and it helps to have them all in a newsstand instead of cluttering things up with individual magazine/news apps and folders.

ScottC Oct 15, 2011 3:04 pm


Originally Posted by ale.penazzi (Post 17271588)
3 hours? There must be something wrong with your iPhone.. The whole update process took 20 minutes to me.. 9 minutes to back up, 3 minutes to update, 8 minutes to have all my data back into my phone.

Or perhaps there is something super-duper-special about your computer or iOS device - On my 64GB iPad, backups take hours and hours. Granted, I have an insane amount of apps, but I don't think I've ever seen an update or backup finish in under 2 hours.

Mr. Bean Oct 15, 2011 3:39 pm


Originally Posted by ScottC (Post 17279667)
Or perhaps there is something super-duper-special about your computer or iOS device - On my 64GB iPad, backups take hours and hours. Granted, I have an insane amount of apps, but I don't think I've ever seen an update or backup finish in under 2 hours.

if it regularly takes that long to back up your iDevice, there may be a corrupted app. Read more here:

http://apdevblog.com/slow-itunes-sync-backup/

A year or so back, I noticed my phone would take hours to sync. I ended up deleting some news apps and after that, backups were done in minutes.

DownTheRappitHole Oct 15, 2011 6:46 pm


Originally Posted by chelmkamp (Post 17279615)
Move it to an empty last page of apps and forget about it?

Just sayin.

Hi fanboy!

Folders allowed me to consolidate phone apps.

Kgmm77 Oct 15, 2011 7:16 pm

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Originally Posted by DownTheRappitHole

Originally Posted by chelmkamp (Post 17279615)
Move it to an empty last page of apps and forget about it?

Just sayin.

Hi fanboy!

Folders allowed me to consolidate phone apps.

But you described it as "crapware"? Why would you want to put something you described as crapware in a folder? Obviously not ideal that it can't be deleted, but the suggestion is the next best option.

pdxer Oct 15, 2011 7:27 pm


Originally Posted by ScottC (Post 17279667)
Or perhaps there is something super-duper-special about your computer or iOS device - On my 64GB iPad, backups take hours and hours. Granted, I have an insane amount of apps, but I don't think I've ever seen an update or backup finish in under 2 hours.

something's wrong. i have 336 apps on my iphone and backups take about 30 seconds, maybe a minute if a lot of stuff changed.

there are apps that can cause backup times to increase dramatically. i have seen instances where a backup took a lot longer (10-15 minutes) after installing an app. when i deleted the app, the backup was back to its normal under a minute.

CPRich Oct 15, 2011 8:40 pm


Originally Posted by pdxer (Post 17280570)
something's wrong. i have 336 apps on my iphone and backups take about 30 seconds,

Full backup, as occurs with the iOS5 update, or an incremental backup?

Backup on my 64GB iPad2 with about 100 apps and 50GB of music and movies took 30 minutes or so.

jetsfan92588 Oct 15, 2011 11:31 pm


Originally Posted by DownTheRappitHole (Post 17277721)
Nice to see Apple pull a Microsoft with the "newstand" crapware that can't be deleted and can't be shoved off into a folder like other crapware (youtube, stocks) :mad:

I love the stocks app. But maybe coming from Blackberry I'm just used to no real stock functionality and the stocks app is exactly what I want (basic pricing information-if I want to research I'll do it on my computer). The youtube app is likely heavily used. I don't use it because I only watch youtube videos when they are linked to from another page, but I imagine most users are happy it exists.

As for the "newstand" app I totally agree that it's crap. Especially with the fact that they have a "free" NY Times app-the only one that I saw that I would consider installing- and while it says you can see the top news stories, it doesn't detail that you can't actually read the article. You can ONLY see the headline and ONLY for the top news articles. Additionally, it looks like it only lets you put 11 different apps into the newstand. Why don't they let you put the Economist or WSJ in there?

Additionally, the reminder location functionality is stupid if you can't type in addresses or choose locations on the map. Seriously, how hard would it have been for apple to allow you to type in addresses or choose map points. Also, I have the iTouch 4 (or whatever the touch with facetime is called) as well as the iphone 4s. The 4s allows me to pick a location for a reminder while the touch only lets me pick a date/time. I'm not sure if this is related to different settings on the device, but I think the customizable settings are pretty much the same. So the location reminder thing either only works with iPhones or it only works on the 4S hardware. Has someone with an iPhone 4 been able to get the location reminder thing working?

Mr. Bean Oct 15, 2011 11:35 pm


Originally Posted by jetsfan92588 (Post 17281238)
I love the stocks app. But maybe coming from Blackberry I'm just used to no real stock functionality and the stocks app is exactly what I want (basic pricing information-if I want to research I'll do it on my computer).

Yeah, but isn't the Stocks data delayed? I've found the CNBC app to be pretty nice for real time quotes. News data is not always up to date, but its better than nothing.

alanh Oct 16, 2011 2:34 am

Just a note of caution: I know two people who had the restore fail after the upgrade. When reattaching the phone to try again, iTunes "helpfully" did an automatic backup of the empty phone, wiping out the real backup.

I'd suggest doing a backup first, and then copying it somewhere else. Directories are listed here.


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