IATA agrees new cabin luggage dimensions
Jun 15, 2015, 3:22 pm
#31
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If you haven't bought too many too expensive bags lately, I think you can be more for it, than against it.
OR, if you are a Red Oxx Air Boss kind of traveller: http://www.redoxx.com/air-boss/91018/product
US Dimensions: 21"L x 8"W x 13"H
Metric Dimensions: 53.3cm L x 20.3cm W x 33cm H
35 cm was my ideal size before, across a range of similar type of bags.
IATA video: http://www.iata.org/pressroom/pr/Pag...-06-09-02.aspx
I am actually liking it.
OK, the whole story is, they are supposed to recommend officially the 55 x 35 x 20 cm bag (goes to the overhead locker), PLUS one underseat/laptop bag. That would be totally reasonable. Then, I could be all in.
OR, if you are a Red Oxx Air Boss kind of traveller: http://www.redoxx.com/air-boss/91018/product
US Dimensions: 21"L x 8"W x 13"H
Metric Dimensions: 53.3cm L x 20.3cm W x 33cm H
35 cm was my ideal size before, across a range of similar type of bags.
IATA video: http://www.iata.org/pressroom/pr/Pag...-06-09-02.aspx
I am actually liking it.
OK, the whole story is, they are supposed to recommend officially the 55 x 35 x 20 cm bag (goes to the overhead locker), PLUS one underseat/laptop bag. That would be totally reasonable. Then, I could be all in.
Jun 15, 2015, 6:28 pm
#32
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Since IATA clarified a couple of days ago is the risk now that they put it out there and airlines gravitate to it over the next couple of years?
Hopefully the airlines ignore this although Tumi already has a cabin ok bag in the works.
Hopefully the airlines ignore this although Tumi already has a cabin ok bag in the works.
Last edited by MikeM CT; Jun 15, 2015 at 9:56 pm
Jun 15, 2015, 11:35 pm
#34
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I like buying a new bag every 3 years so the fact that I may be forced to do so down the road when this 'standard' supposedly gets policed doesn't bother me.
And from a financial standpoint, when all customers are guaranteed an overhead space I won't have to purchase early boarding so the airlines are going to lose that revenue. No longer will I stress over being first onboard anymore as even if I'm the last guy on the plane I've got an overhead bin. That's a plus.
What they really need to police are the women who board with 3 personal items, 2 shopping bags, and a bed pillow. That's the issue. It's not carryon size; it's the rude passengers who sneak stuff onboard and stash it overhead.
BJ
And from a financial standpoint, when all customers are guaranteed an overhead space I won't have to purchase early boarding so the airlines are going to lose that revenue. No longer will I stress over being first onboard anymore as even if I'm the last guy on the plane I've got an overhead bin. That's a plus.
What they really need to police are the women who board with 3 personal items, 2 shopping bags, and a bed pillow. That's the issue. It's not carryon size; it's the rude passengers who sneak stuff onboard and stash it overhead.
BJ
Jun 16, 2015, 12:45 pm
#35
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From my experience on United and other domestic airlines that I've used in the last 5 years (Southwest, Delta, AA) the number of times they actually enforce size restrictions is low. So I don't think these so called standards will really have a big real world impact until they do a better job of enforcement.
I agree that FAs need to enforce the no small items in the overhead bin rule more consistently. On pretty much every flight I've been on, someone always places a small backpack or bag in the overhead bin instead of underneath their seat (that's not counting those in bulkhead rows that have no choice but to place all their carry-ons in the overhead).
I agree that FAs need to enforce the no small items in the overhead bin rule more consistently. On pretty much every flight I've been on, someone always places a small backpack or bag in the overhead bin instead of underneath their seat (that's not counting those in bulkhead rows that have no choice but to place all their carry-ons in the overhead).
Jun 16, 2015, 1:21 pm
#36
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From my experience on United and other domestic airlines that I've used in the last 5 years (Southwest, Delta, AA) the number of times they actually enforce size restrictions is low. So I don't think these so called standards will really have a big real world impact until they do a better job of enforcement.
I agree that FAs need to enforce the no small items in the overhead bin rule more consistently. On pretty much every flight I've been on, someone always places a small backpack or bag in the overhead bin instead of underneath their seat (that's not counting those in bulkhead rows that have no choice but to place all their carry-ons in the overhead).
I agree that FAs need to enforce the no small items in the overhead bin rule more consistently. On pretty much every flight I've been on, someone always places a small backpack or bag in the overhead bin instead of underneath their seat (that's not counting those in bulkhead rows that have no choice but to place all their carry-ons in the overhead).
I looked at the measurement that IATA put out and it is really thin. AirBoss, Aeronaut, TriStar are all thicker than 7.5 inches. Heck, my briefcase expands to 8 inches or more. On rolling carry-on's, you are looking at 6 inches of depth due to wheel and handle housing. If you are over certain height and size, you are really screwed.
Jun 16, 2015, 3:36 pm
#37
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+1.
I looked at the measurement that IATA put out and it is really thin. AirBoss, Aeronaut, TriStar are all thicker than 7.5 inches. Heck, my briefcase expands to 8 inches or more. On rolling carry-on's, you are looking at 6 inches of depth due to wheel and handle housing. If you are over certain height and size, you are really screwed.
I looked at the measurement that IATA put out and it is really thin. AirBoss, Aeronaut, TriStar are all thicker than 7.5 inches. Heck, my briefcase expands to 8 inches or more. On rolling carry-on's, you are looking at 6 inches of depth due to wheel and handle housing. If you are over certain height and size, you are really screwed.
Jun 17, 2015, 7:49 am
#38
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The clarification turned me off even more.
So now the battle isn't going to just be who gets on the plane first, but short trip one baggers versus people with one carry-on versus once a year travelers, as the cabin OK bags get priority.
And, let's see how quickly the Cabin Ok tags start to become a bootleg copy item.
I understand what they are trying to do, but it is a poorly thought out fix to a problem that isn't really being addressed.
So now the battle isn't going to just be who gets on the plane first, but short trip one baggers versus people with one carry-on versus once a year travelers, as the cabin OK bags get priority.
And, let's see how quickly the Cabin Ok tags start to become a bootleg copy item.
I understand what they are trying to do, but it is a poorly thought out fix to a problem that isn't really being addressed.
Jun 17, 2015, 8:56 am
#39
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Well we have a official statement of Rimowa:
Rimowa will not support the plans to reduce the standard size of 55x40x20cm and neither have we provided such a recommendation to IATA or any airline company.
Furthermore they say that there is no standardised guideline for carry-on luggage in the past despite previous recommendations from IATA. Airlines are still able (in the end) to decide for themselves which dimensions they permit.
Well this says it all, in my opinion it is the whole British Airways debacle with the 56x45x25cm carry on that will not be going in the new dreamliners of Boeing. Case closed.
Also a official statement from Lufthansa themselves: They signed the agreement that IATA search for a solution for recommended worldwide cabin baggage. They don't say anything about a 55x35x20cm. Also it is stupid to think that Lufthansa is going with this because they have a special Rimowa collection in Size 55x40x23cm for cabin.
Rimowa will not support the plans to reduce the standard size of 55x40x20cm and neither have we provided such a recommendation to IATA or any airline company.
Furthermore they say that there is no standardised guideline for carry-on luggage in the past despite previous recommendations from IATA. Airlines are still able (in the end) to decide for themselves which dimensions they permit.
Well this says it all, in my opinion it is the whole British Airways debacle with the 56x45x25cm carry on that will not be going in the new dreamliners of Boeing. Case closed.
Also a official statement from Lufthansa themselves: They signed the agreement that IATA search for a solution for recommended worldwide cabin baggage. They don't say anything about a 55x35x20cm. Also it is stupid to think that Lufthansa is going with this because they have a special Rimowa collection in Size 55x40x23cm for cabin.
Jun 17, 2015, 3:12 pm
#40
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News story from Reuters reporting that they are reversing course/pausing this initiative:
http://in.reuters.com/article/2015/0...0Z31E920150617
And IATA release:
http://www.iata.org/pressroom/pr/Pag...-06-17-01.aspx
http://in.reuters.com/article/2015/0...0Z31E920150617
And IATA release:
http://www.iata.org/pressroom/pr/Pag...-06-17-01.aspx
Jun 17, 2015, 5:25 pm
#41
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Just went on the Rimowa website, be it China, UK, or USA sites, Rimowa has REMOVED its "IATA" suffix on their Cabin Multiwheel Topas, Limbo and Salsa Deluxe lines! I could swear they were still there yesterday! Mmmmm, I wonder what Rimowa up to? Anyone shed any light on this as on another thread similar to this one under Travelbuzz someone has confirmed IATA have reviewed, albeit retracted what they proposed last week.
Jun 18, 2015, 6:59 am
#43
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Just went on the Rimowa website, be it China, UK, or USA sites, Rimowa has REMOVED its "IATA" suffix on their Cabin Multiwheel Topas, Limbo and Salsa Deluxe lines! I could swear they were still there yesterday! Mmmmm, I wonder what Rimowa up to? Anyone shed any light on this as on another thread similar to this one under Travelbuzz someone has confirmed IATA have reviewed, albeit retracted what they proposed last week.
Maybe they will make a new one?
These new iata limits are ridiculous. They're smaller than easy jet's. This won't stop people from carrying on dozens of bags and blocking overhead bins.
Jun 18, 2015, 7:44 am
#44
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IATA now rethinking the downsizing of cabin baggage
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/iata-pause...162926074.html
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/iata-pause...162926074.html
Jun 24, 2015, 5:45 pm
#45
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It looks like IATA has shelved this idea entirely. WSJ picked up the story here.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/what-are...fit-1435167020
You really wonder who runs this organization. Frankly speaking, CA DMV has better policies than these guys do.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/what-are...fit-1435167020
You really wonder who runs this organization. Frankly speaking, CA DMV has better policies than these guys do.