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thbe Apr 22, 2022 5:38 am


Originally Posted by Always Flyin (Post 34186726)
The health insurance requirement remains a problem.

I have an 84-year-old client living in Thailand on an Non-Imm O long-stay "retirement" visa.

He can't leave the country as he can't obtain medical insurance to return, even though he deposits ฿800,000 a year in Thailand to qualify for the visa.

It's a real problem for the elderly.

Are there a special requirements for long term stays? Because here (Germany) there are a couple of travel insurances who don‘t have an age limit. It‘s more expensive for elderly, but possible. For tourists it‘s not a problem to get the insurance for the Thailand Pass.

Always Flyin Apr 22, 2022 7:15 am


Originally Posted by thbe (Post 34186772)
Are there a special requirements for long term stays? Because here (Germany) there are a couple of travel insurances who don‘t have an age limit. It‘s more expensive for elderly, but possible. For tourists it‘s not a problem to get the insurance for the Thailand Pass.

To obtain a Thailand Travel Pass, one must provide a copy of the insurance policy that meets Thailand standards for Covid medical coverage to enter the country.

The coverage must last the duration of the stay. In the case of a retiree, that is for the duration of the annual visa.

We have thus far been unable to locate coverage for retirees over the age of 80.

manymany Apr 22, 2022 7:17 am

Some more information here

https://www.tatnews.org/2022/04/thai...om-1-may-2022/

Especially those cannot meet vaccinated requirements:


International travellers who are unvaccinated or are not fully vaccinated will also no longer be required to show proof of a pre-arrival negative RT-PCR test nor undergo an arrival test.

They are required to register for a Thailand Pass with a 5-day hotel booking and an insurance policy with coverage no less than US$10,000 (reduced from US$20,000).

Once arriving in Thailand, they must proceed to undergo the quarantine for 5 days and undergo an RT-PCR test on Day 5.

Exception is made for unvaccinated travellers who are able to upload proof of a negative RT-PCR test within 72 hours of travel via the Thailand Pass system, they – like those fully vaccinated – will be allowed entry and are free to go anywhere in the kingdom.

Davvidd Apr 22, 2022 7:21 am


Originally Posted by thbe (Post 34186603)
Source is the official CCSA meeting. That includes the PM, the Vice-PM, a couple of ministers and experts.

Yes it is already on the Thailand Pass website. The registration under the new format would be open from the 29th of April. But I have a feeling that it would be overwhelmed by the increase in the number of applications.

thbe Apr 22, 2022 8:37 am


Originally Posted by Always Flyin (Post 34187003)
To obtain a Thailand Travel Pass, one must provide a copy of the insurance policy that meets Thailand standards for Covid medical coverage to enter the country.

The coverage must last the duration of the stay. In the case of a retiree, that is for the duration of the annual visa.

We have thus far been unable to locate coverage for retirees over the age of 80.

I see. It‘s possible to get an insurance for a year, but only for stays up to 42-60 days each. I think, if it‘s possible to get the Thailand Pass with that document, but I‘m not sure. Maybe the Thailand Pass approver read the fine print when they see the age, but I don‘t think so. They will return to the automatic check of the documents, focusing on the vaccination documents.

You could take the risk of waisting a couple of bucks, check out if you can get that kind of travel insurance in the US/UK oder maybe also in Germany (online) and try to get a Thailand Pass with that.

Anyway, the Thailand Pass will be history after July 1, maybe after June 1.

thbe Apr 22, 2022 8:40 am


Originally Posted by Davvidd (Post 34187021)
Yes it is already on the Thailand Pass website. The registration under the new format would be open from the 29th of April. But I have a feeling that it would be overwhelmed by the increase in the number of applications.

Yes, but they don‘t need the manual confirmation by the hotel anymore. They will approve most of the TP automatically.

flybyFIRE Apr 22, 2022 5:27 pm


Originally Posted by thbe (Post 34187228)
Yes, but they don‘t need the manual confirmation by the hotel anymore. They will approve most of the TP automatically.

My flight is on May 1st. Really hoping those approvals come within 24 hours.

Do they do approvals over the weekend? I've seen some places saying business days only and others saying they work basically 24/7

ft101 Apr 22, 2022 8:32 pm


Originally Posted by Always Flyin (Post 34187003)
To obtain a Thailand Travel Pass, one must provide a copy of the insurance policy that meets Thailand standards for Covid medical coverage to enter the country.

The coverage must last the duration of the stay. In the case of a retiree, that is for the duration of the annual visa.

We have thus far been unable to locate coverage for retirees over the age of 80.

He could leave and plan to return just before his annual renewal thus minimising the time period for insurance, but in practice even for those getting stamped in for almost a year, 30 days insurance is all that is being required.

Despite that the first insurer recommended on the Thailand Pass website has this in their summary:

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...a459c81cd6.jpg


and the TGIA recommended insurance has this:

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...c8e0ea8166.jpg

https://covid19.tgia.org/

plain Apr 23, 2022 1:16 am

This is good news (getting rid of mandatory testing). Took a lot of weight of my shoulders :)
Let's hope things stay relatively stable and they don't have to make more restrictions.

Luckily I booked 2 weeks hotel stays literally day before the news broke out. Don't know if the prices will go up since it's not high season anymore though.

Always Flyin Apr 23, 2022 3:37 am


Originally Posted by ft101 (Post 34188813)
He could leave and plan to return just before his annual renewal thus minimising the time period for insurance, but in practice even for those getting stamped in for almost a year, 30 days insurance is all that is being required.

Despite that the first insurer recommended on the Thailand Pass website has this in their summary:

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...a459c81cd6.jpg


and the TGIA recommended insurance has this:

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...c8e0ea8166.jpg

https://covid19.tgia.org/

When you click through, you get this:


“For Visa type : Non-O (Retirement), O-X , STV a separate Health Insurance Policy is required. The limit sum insured for In-Patient is not less than THB 400,000 and for Out-Patient is not less than THB 40,000 ”

To apply the Online Health Policy, please click https://longstay.tgia.org
From age 76, they only allow renewals of existing policies.

thbe Apr 23, 2022 7:58 am


Originally Posted by flybyFIRE (Post 34188550)
My flight is on May 1st. Really hoping those approvals come within 24 hours.

Do they do approvals over the weekend? I've seen some places saying business days only and others saying they work basically 24/7

We had different kind of TP requirements so far and that affected the time for approval. Many were approved automatically within a few minutes, some needed more than a week.

For sure they work over the weekend. If they approve manually, it seems like they work faster on workdays and during business hours.

You can also use your existing TP to enter Thailand. From May 1 you don‘t need the hotel confirmation and test package anymore. So you can cancel hotel and test package and still use your approved ‚old‘ Thailand Pass. Of course there is always the risk, that the staff at the check-in doesn‘t have the newest information. But Thailand‘s immigration will let you in with that ‚old‘ Thailand Pass.

ft101 Apr 24, 2022 4:36 am


Originally Posted by Always Flyin (Post 34189286)
When you click through, you get this:


“For Visa type : Non-O (Retirement), O-X , STV a separate Health Insurance Policy is required. The limit sum insured for In-Patient is not less than THB 400,000 and for Out-Patient is not less than THB 40,000 ”

To apply the Online Health Policy, please click https://longstay.tgia.org

That refers to when applying for a visa and you've said he is there on a visa so he will enter on that with a re-entry permit. No visa application necessary.


Originally Posted by Always Flyin (Post 34189286)
From age 76, they only allow renewals of existing policies.

I've just been all the way throught to the payment page of the TGIA recommended one entering a date of birth of 1937 and been accepted. Cost was 11,000 THB.

Always Flyin Apr 24, 2022 8:38 am


Originally Posted by ft101 (Post 34191535)
That refers to when applying for a visa and you've said he is there on a visa so he will enter on that with a re-entry permit. No visa application necessary.

He still has to have a Thailand Pass to enter with a visa. To obtain that, he needs the insurance.


I've just been all the way throught to the payment page of the TGIA recommended one entering a date of birth of 1937 and been accepted. Cost was 11,000 THB.
That is because you are applying as a tourist without a visa. The rules are different for visa holders.

ft101 Apr 24, 2022 10:12 am


Originally Posted by Always Flyin (Post 34191893)
He still has to have a Thailand Pass to enter with a visa. To obtain that, he needs the insurance.



That is because you are applying as a tourist without a visa. The rules are different for visa holders.

This is 100% wrong. He needs the 20K USD (soon to be 10K USD) insurance to apply for the Thai Pass and it's available up to age 99. The 400/40K THB is for applying for some Visa types but is totally irrelevant here.

When you apply for the Thai Pass, the authorisation process don't know or care whether you will enter with a long term visa, tourist visa, visa exemption or anything else. There is no difference in the TP requirements for these categories.

Always Flyin Apr 24, 2022 10:47 am


Originally Posted by ft101 (Post 34192125)
This is 100% wrong. He needs the 20K USD (soon to be 10K USD) insurance to apply for the Thai Pass and it's available up to age 99. The 400/40K THB is for applying for some Visa types but is totally irrelevant here.

When you apply for the Thai Pass, the authorisation process don't know or care whether you will enter with a long term visa, tourist visa, visa exemption or anything else. There is no difference in the TP requirements for these categories.

I went through the steps to apply for the insurance and, once it is declared that you are entering on a non-imm "O" visa, you are not eligible for the tourist insurance. The insurance that is offered is age limited.

Go to the insurance site referenced above and try it for yourself.

This is a big issue right now for elderly retirees and we have yet to find a solution.


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