Checking in with TG for a "short" connection in NRT?
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Checking in with TG for a "short" connection in NRT?
I booked a BKK-NRT-JFK flight in F on a LifeMiles award ticket:
TG 676 BKK-NRT 0735-1545
NH 010 NRT-JFK 1640-1635
It was offered as a choice in LifeMiles for BKK-JFK, and I was so happy to see F on both segments, I booked it without questioning anything.
However, now that departure date is approaching, I wonder if that is a "legal" connection and if I will experience any problems at the TG F check-in counter at BKK airport.
When I check minimum connections times in ExpertFlyer, it looks like there should be one-hour?
What are the odds that I'll be prevented from checking in (and checking bags) on that connection?
(And, there have been no schedule changes since I booked it which might have affected the connection times.)
TG 676 BKK-NRT 0735-1545
NH 010 NRT-JFK 1640-1635
It was offered as a choice in LifeMiles for BKK-JFK, and I was so happy to see F on both segments, I booked it without questioning anything.
However, now that departure date is approaching, I wonder if that is a "legal" connection and if I will experience any problems at the TG F check-in counter at BKK airport.
When I check minimum connections times in ExpertFlyer, it looks like there should be one-hour?
STANDARD.D/D...D/I...I/D...I/I.
ONLINE .20 1.00 1.00 1.00
OFFLINE .20 1.00 1.00 1.00
** OR * ARE ALL
TG-NH II .45 ALL - FLT 6751 - 7649 TRM 1 - 1
TG-NH II .45 ALL - FLT 5951 - 6359
**-** II 1.00 TRM 1 - 1
**-** II 1.30 TRM 2 - 1
**-** II 2.10 TRM 3 - 1
**-** II 1.30 TRM 1 - 2
**-** II 1.30 TRM 2 - 2
**-** II 2.10 TRM 3 - 2
**-** II 2.10 TRM 1 - 3
**-** II 2.10 TRM 2 - 3
**-** II 1.40 TRM 3 - 3
ONLINE .20 1.00 1.00 1.00
OFFLINE .20 1.00 1.00 1.00
** OR * ARE ALL
TG-NH II .45 ALL - FLT 6751 - 7649 TRM 1 - 1
TG-NH II .45 ALL - FLT 5951 - 6359
**-** II 1.00 TRM 1 - 1
**-** II 1.30 TRM 2 - 1
**-** II 2.10 TRM 3 - 1
**-** II 1.30 TRM 1 - 2
**-** II 1.30 TRM 2 - 2
**-** II 2.10 TRM 3 - 2
**-** II 2.10 TRM 1 - 3
**-** II 2.10 TRM 2 - 3
**-** II 1.40 TRM 3 - 3
(And, there have been no schedule changes since I booked it which might have affected the connection times.)
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You wouldn't have been able to book this itinerary if the connection was not valid (assuming of course we are talking about 1 ticket; not separate tickets). So most likely you are not undercutting MCT and will face no issues at check-in.
If the transfer time at NRT is indeed below MCT, you should be rebooked; either you will be contacted in advance or the check-in agent may notice it and ask you to proceed to the TG ticket office at BKK. The issue is here that you are on a AV award ticket and TG will be very reluctant to touch it and ask you to contact LifeMiles for rebooking + LifeMiles can't rebook you to other flights unless there is O class availability. So if you need to rebook it will become very complicated (and difficult).
I would keep quiet and hope that you will be able to check-in. Most likely you will make the connection at NRT even with only 55min.
If the transfer time at NRT is indeed below MCT, you should be rebooked; either you will be contacted in advance or the check-in agent may notice it and ask you to proceed to the TG ticket office at BKK. The issue is here that you are on a AV award ticket and TG will be very reluctant to touch it and ask you to contact LifeMiles for rebooking + LifeMiles can't rebook you to other flights unless there is O class availability. So if you need to rebook it will become very complicated (and difficult).
I would keep quiet and hope that you will be able to check-in. Most likely you will make the connection at NRT even with only 55min.
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I did a similar F to F connection in NRT a while back. There was somebody from NH waiting for me at the TG gate, took me thru security, long underground tunnel. Had even a few minutes at the NH lounge close to the departure gate.
If the inbound is not late then it is easy to make such a connection.
You can use a site like flighradar24 to get a feel for the arrival time of the flight: https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/tg676
If the inbound is not late then it is easy to make such a connection.
You can use a site like flighradar24 to get a feel for the arrival time of the flight: https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/tg676
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I booked a BKK-NRT-JFK flight in F on a LifeMiles award ticket:
TG 676 BKK-NRT 0735-1545
NH 010 NRT-JFK 1640-1635.
When I check minimum connections times in ExpertFlyer, it looks like there should be one-hour?
What are the odds that I'll be prevented from checking in (and checking bags) on that connection?
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TG 676 BKK-NRT 0735-1545
NH 010 NRT-JFK 1640-1635.
When I check minimum connections times in ExpertFlyer, it looks like there should be one-hour?
What are the odds that I'll be prevented from checking in (and checking bags) on that connection?
)
The connection might be legal noting the TG-NH connection time appears to be 45min? See the extract from your own EF information:
TG-NH II .45 ALL - FLT
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I once made a connection from BKK to USA in NRT in less than 10 minutes (flight from BKK was delayed); I was escorted from the arrival gate direct to the departing gate without passing security; also the luggage made it.
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TG-NH II .45 ALL - FLT 6751 - 7649 TRM 1 - 1
TG-NH II .45 ALL - FLT 5951 - 6359
TG-NH II .45 ALL - FLT 5951 - 6359
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If Avianca issued the connection on one ticket as a connection, you should be fine regardless. They would have taken into account the MCT.
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I conclude that the flight number range is for NH, it meets the 45m MCT, and that you'll be fine.
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That makes sense too - but regardless of all this, if the OP has it issued on one through-ticket, s/he will be fine.
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Some creative interpretations of the MCT table. I hope TG abides by them.
My interpretation was that the FLT 6751 - 7649 & FLT 5951 - 6359 would be TG flights (i.e. TG metal) operated as a NH codeshare. It could make sense that a shorter connection time would apply to TG metal to TG metal connection. In the past TG did operate NRT-TPE, for example, and it could well have borne a NH code-share flight number.
Also contributing to my nervousness is that ExpertFlyer does not display my TG-NH connection when asking for availability BKK-JFK via NRT, even when specifying TG & NH.
Oh, well. Nobody else here seems concerned by this, so I'll just ignore it.
My interpretation was that the FLT 6751 - 7649 & FLT 5951 - 6359 would be TG flights (i.e. TG metal) operated as a NH codeshare. It could make sense that a shorter connection time would apply to TG metal to TG metal connection. In the past TG did operate NRT-TPE, for example, and it could well have borne a NH code-share flight number.
Also contributing to my nervousness is that ExpertFlyer does not display my TG-NH connection when asking for availability BKK-JFK via NRT, even when specifying TG & NH.
Oh, well. Nobody else here seems concerned by this, so I'll just ignore it.
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I think you need to keep in mind that this seemingly very complex table applies to only three inbound TG flights from BKK, and that we are by definition talking about a T1-T1 transfer if you're transferring to an NH operated flight. So most of that very complex table is completely irrelevant. And most importantly, that NH sells TG676 as NH5956.
So: 45 minutes.
More generally, I've found that the EF MCT tables' list of "Standard" MCTs are generally not applicable to I-I transfers at various carriers' Asian hubs. The real MCTs are usually in the flight specific detail sections.
So: 45 minutes.
More generally, I've found that the EF MCT tables' list of "Standard" MCTs are generally not applicable to I-I transfers at various carriers' Asian hubs. The real MCTs are usually in the flight specific detail sections.
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You'll make it. Your luggage will also make it. Just check with NH at the transit, to confirm your tagged luggage has been loaded. If not, then throw a tantrum!