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Checking in with TG for a "short" connection in NRT?

Checking in with TG for a "short" connection in NRT?

Old Mar 12, 19, 6:57 am
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Checking in with TG for a "short" connection in NRT?

I booked a BKK-NRT-JFK flight in F on a LifeMiles award ticket:

TG 676 BKK-NRT 0735-1545
NH 010 NRT-JFK 1640-1635

It was offered as a choice in LifeMiles for BKK-JFK, and I was so happy to see F on both segments, I booked it without questioning anything.

However, now that departure date is approaching, I wonder if that is a "legal" connection and if I will experience any problems at the TG F check-in counter at BKK airport.

When I check minimum connections times in ExpertFlyer, it looks like there should be one-hour?

STANDARD.D/D...D/I...I/D...I/I.
ONLINE .20 1.00 1.00 1.00
OFFLINE .20 1.00 1.00 1.00
** OR * ARE ALL
TG-NH II .45 ALL - FLT 6751 - 7649 TRM 1 - 1
TG-NH II .45 ALL - FLT 5951 - 6359
**-** II 1.00 TRM 1 - 1
**-** II 1.30 TRM 2 - 1
**-** II 2.10 TRM 3 - 1
**-** II 1.30 TRM 1 - 2
**-** II 1.30 TRM 2 - 2
**-** II 2.10 TRM 3 - 2
**-** II 2.10 TRM 1 - 3
**-** II 2.10 TRM 2 - 3
**-** II 1.40 TRM 3 - 3
What are the odds that I'll be prevented from checking in (and checking bags) on that connection?

(And, there have been no schedule changes since I booked it which might have affected the connection times.)
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Old Mar 12, 19, 7:25 am
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You wouldn't have been able to book this itinerary if the connection was not valid (assuming of course we are talking about 1 ticket; not separate tickets). So most likely you are not undercutting MCT and will face no issues at check-in.

If the transfer time at NRT is indeed below MCT, you should be rebooked; either you will be contacted in advance or the check-in agent may notice it and ask you to proceed to the TG ticket office at BKK. The issue is here that you are on a AV award ticket and TG will be very reluctant to touch it and ask you to contact LifeMiles for rebooking + LifeMiles can't rebook you to other flights unless there is O class availability. So if you need to rebook it will become very complicated (and difficult).

I would keep quiet and hope that you will be able to check-in. Most likely you will make the connection at NRT even with only 55min.
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Old Mar 12, 19, 8:37 am
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I did a similar F to F connection in NRT a while back. There was somebody from NH waiting for me at the TG gate, took me thru security, long underground tunnel. Had even a few minutes at the NH lounge close to the departure gate.
If the inbound is not late then it is easy to make such a connection.

You can use a site like flighradar24 to get a feel for the arrival time of the flight: https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/tg676
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Old Mar 12, 19, 11:18 am
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Originally Posted by 1984SW View Post
I booked a BKK-NRT-JFK flight in F on a LifeMiles award ticket:

TG 676 BKK-NRT 0735-1545
NH 010 NRT-JFK 1640-1635.

When I check minimum connections times in ExpertFlyer, it looks like there should be one-hour?

What are the odds that I'll be prevented from checking in (and checking bags) on that connection?
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The connection might be legal noting the TG-NH connection time appears to be 45min? See the extract from your own EF information:

TG-NH II .45 ALL - FLT
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Old Mar 12, 19, 7:26 pm
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I once made a connection from BKK to USA in NRT in less than 10 minutes (flight from BKK was delayed); I was escorted from the arrival gate direct to the departing gate without passing security; also the luggage made it.
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Old Mar 12, 19, 7:27 pm
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There's is zero chance you will miss the connection if the TG flight arrives before the NH flight has left the gate.
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Old Mar 12, 19, 8:47 pm
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I concur with Thai-Kiwi, MCT is :45.
Originally Posted by 5khours View Post
There's is zero chance you will miss the connection if the TG flight arrives before the NH flight has left the gate.
That's not OP's question. He's concerned about check-in at BKK if the connection is under MCT.
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Old Mar 13, 19, 12:45 am
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Originally Posted by Thai-Kiwi View Post

The connection might be legal noting the TG-NH connection time appears to be 45min? See the extract from your own EF information:

TG-NH II .45 ALL - FLT
Originally Posted by Kacee View Post
I concur with Thai-Kiwi, MCT is :45..
I assume you are both referring to:

TG-NH II .45 ALL - FLT 6751 - 7649 TRM 1 - 1
TG-NH II .45 ALL - FLT 5951 - 6359
I read that as connecting from any TG flight to any NH flight # between 6751-7649 or 5951-6359. My NH flight # is 010.
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Old Mar 13, 19, 12:51 am
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Originally Posted by 1984SW View Post
I read that as connecting from any TG flight to any NH flight # between 6751-7649 or 5951-6359. My NH flight # is 010.
I would guess that should be read as all flights except the number ranges specified, which would make sense as these are looking like code shares.
If Avianca issued the connection on one ticket as a connection, you should be fine regardless. They would have taken into account the MCT.
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Old Mar 13, 19, 1:40 am
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Originally Posted by 1984SW View Post
I assume you are both referring to:



I read that as connecting from any TG flight to any NH flight # between 6751-7649 or 5951-6359. My NH flight # is 010.
Your TG flight BKK-NRT has NH codeshare NH5962. There is no TG5962 flying internationally (it comes up on searches, as BKK-CNX)

I conclude that the flight number range is for NH, it meets the 45m MCT, and that you'll be fine.
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Old Mar 13, 19, 1:45 am
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Originally Posted by Thai-Kiwi View Post
Your TG flight BKK-NRT has NH codeshare NH5962. There is no TG5962 flying internationally (it comes up on searches, as BKK-CNX)

I conclude that the flight number range is for NH, it meets the 45m MCT, and that you'll be fine.
That makes sense too - but regardless of all this, if the OP has it issued on one through-ticket, s/he will be fine.
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Old Mar 13, 19, 4:00 am
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Some creative interpretations of the MCT table. I hope TG abides by them.

My interpretation was that the FLT 6751 - 7649 & FLT 5951 - 6359 would be TG flights (i.e. TG metal) operated as a NH codeshare. It could make sense that a shorter connection time would apply to TG metal to TG metal connection. In the past TG did operate NRT-TPE, for example, and it could well have borne a NH code-share flight number.

Also contributing to my nervousness is that ExpertFlyer does not display my TG-NH connection when asking for availability BKK-JFK via NRT, even when specifying TG & NH.

Oh, well. Nobody else here seems concerned by this, so I'll just ignore it.
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Old Mar 13, 19, 9:07 am
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I think you need to keep in mind that this seemingly very complex table applies to only three inbound TG flights from BKK, and that we are by definition talking about a T1-T1 transfer if you're transferring to an NH operated flight. So most of that very complex table is completely irrelevant. And most importantly, that NH sells TG676 as NH5956.

So: 45 minutes.

More generally, I've found that the EF MCT tables' list of "Standard" MCTs are generally not applicable to I-I transfers at various carriers' Asian hubs. The real MCTs are usually in the flight specific detail sections.
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Old Mar 16, 19, 1:40 am
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You'll make it. Your luggage will also make it. Just check with NH at the transit, to confirm your tagged luggage has been loaded. If not, then throw a tantrum!
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Old Mar 16, 19, 3:40 am
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No, then go shopping upon arrival on the account of the airline or travel insurance...
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