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DELee May 11, 2022 3:06 pm


Originally Posted by vanillabean (Post 34241855)
In light of this and some threads in forums such as Coronavirus and travel in which a small group of people systematically like each other, I move to discard the FT Like button altogether.

Given how flawed it is, not sure if makes a difference - especially if IB is trying to use it for analytics.

Shots fired - let's go see.

David

Zorak May 11, 2022 3:18 pm


Shortly after its “Like” button began to produce data about what best “engaged” its users, Facebook developed algorithms to bring each user the content most likely to generate a “like” or some other interaction, eventually including the “share” as well. Later research showed that posts that trigger emotions––especially anger at out-groups––are the most likely to be shared.
FT has no such mechanism though -- you read whatever threads you read, and FT doesn't do anything to promote "liked" content, so the evils of the Facebook approach don't apply here.

SamirD May 11, 2022 4:35 pm


Originally Posted by IBJoel (Post 34241110)
Nothing was changed, that's the thing. I had them look it up and down back then and no one could figure it out.

Would you mind if some technically qualified FTers take a look at a sanitized version of the code? I know it's a simple issue related to retrieval from the db because it's literally printing the error message as the variable string stating the variable is undefined. There's only a few scenarios where this would happen and these just have to be mapped out and then searched for in the relevant code.

Zorak May 11, 2022 4:48 pm


Originally Posted by SamirD (Post 34242095)
Would you mind if some technically qualified FTers take a look at a sanitized version of the code? I know it's a simple issue related to retrieval from the db because it's literally printing the error message as the variable string stating the variable is undefined. There's only a few scenarios where this would happen and these just have to be mapped out and then searched for in the relevant code.

Speculating with no basis whatsoever of course :p but just from how it manifests, if I had to bet, my money would be on somewhere in the frontend/JS code, not the db retrieval layer.

SamirD May 11, 2022 4:57 pm


Originally Posted by Zorak (Post 34242133)
Speculating with no basis whatsoever of course :p but just from how it manifests, if I had to bet, my money would be on somewhere in the frontend/JS code, not the db retrieval layer.

It could be there too as the sql and html code are generated by the php that's behind it all. It would be good if they would let some of us look under the hood. I've had to mess with my own vb3 based site before and it's just a matter of taking the time to follow all the code...

IBJoel May 12, 2022 4:26 pm

I've asked

lsquare May 12, 2022 5:41 pm


Originally Posted by IBJoel (Post 34245055)
I've asked

And?

IBJoel May 13, 2022 4:50 pm


Originally Posted by lsquare (Post 34245231)
And?

We do not give out code to non-employees

lsquare May 13, 2022 5:07 pm


Originally Posted by IBJoel (Post 34247921)
We do not give out code to non-employees

I understand.

Having said that, I'm guessing this issue won't be resolved anytime soon, if ever. I rather go with that "fix," which I think was showing who our likes? If so, I'm ok with it if it fixes this problem.

IBJoel May 13, 2022 5:29 pm


Originally Posted by lsquare (Post 34247966)
I understand.

Having said that, I'm guessing this issue won't be resolved anytime soon, if ever. I rather go with that "fix," which I think was showing who our likes? If so, I'm ok with it if it fixes this problem.

I do want everyone to know that we are pursuing an update to the "Post Thanks" product that we attempted to launch in October. Specifically *I* am pursuing it with/because of everyone's feedback here. My idea is to essentially blend what we have now, where everything is in one window, with what every other site has. Sometimes the main tech team pursues stuff in a way where I'm just like, what were you thinking? In particular I think they overvalue the mobile side (which don't get me wrong, does have a lot of value). But getting the whole machine to see our side and actually get moving can be arduous.

lsquare May 13, 2022 5:51 pm


Originally Posted by IBJoel (Post 34248012)
I do want everyone to know that we are pursuing an update to the "Post Thanks" product that we attempted to launch in October. Specifically *I* am pursuing it with/because of everyone's feedback here. My idea is to essentially blend what we have now, where everything is in one window, with what every other site has. Sometimes the main tech team pursues stuff in a way where I'm just like, what were you thinking? In particular I think they overvalue the mobile side (which don't get me wrong, does have a lot of value). But getting the whole machine to see our side and actually get moving can be arduous.

What's the timeframe for getting this issue addressed once and for all?

vanillabean May 13, 2022 5:57 pm


Originally Posted by IBJoel (Post 34248012)
Sometimes the main tech team pursues stuff in a way where I'm just like, what were you thinking? In particular I think they overvalue the mobile side (which don't get me wrong, does have a lot of value).

Value such as this? :)


Originally Posted by IBJoel (Post 33642460)
If you guys are on the mobile skin, Likes won't show.


IBJoel May 18, 2022 9:18 am


Originally Posted by lsquare (Post 34248045)
What's the timeframe for getting this issue addressed once and for all?

I don't have one, unfortunately.

IMH Jul 9, 2022 7:42 am

When trying to "like" posts these past few days I've been scoring around 60% ARG:4, 20% ARG:6 and 20% IMH.

SamirD Jul 9, 2022 10:59 pm


Originally Posted by IBJoel (Post 34248012)
I do want everyone to know that we are pursuing an update to the "Post Thanks" product that we attempted to launch in October. Specifically *I* am pursuing it with/because of everyone's feedback here. My idea is to essentially blend what we have now, where everything is in one window, with what every other site has. Sometimes the main tech team pursues stuff in a way where I'm just like, what were you thinking? In particular I think they overvalue the mobile side (which don't get me wrong, does have a lot of value). But getting the whole machine to see our side and actually get moving can be arduous.

Thank you for the update. I can't really ARGue with that. :D


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