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canadiancow Dec 16, 2017 11:50 pm

Ridiculous CPU/RAM usage
 
This list is sorted by CPU usage.

This is ridiculous. What the heck is running on that page that needs ANY CPU? It should be static content.

I don't want to get an ad blocker. I like FT. I'm happy to support it. I'd pay a nominal annual fee for an ad free version.

But if this is caused by the ads, then do something about the ads.

This is on pretty much every computer I own (multiple MacBook Pros, a Chromebook, a Windows desktop, etc.). No other website I frequent has the CPU issue (though RAM is another matter entirely).

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...6d4d1fd370.png

Mwenenzi Dec 17, 2017 1:17 am


Originally Posted by canadiancow (Post 29183318)
This list is sorted by CPU usage.

This is ridiculous. What the heck is running on that page that needs ANY CPU? It should be static content.

I don't want to get an ad blocker. I like FT. I'm happy to support it. I'd pay a nominal annual fee for an ad free version.

But if this is caused by the ads, then do something about the ads.

This is on pretty much every computer I own (multiple MacBook Pros, a Chromebook, a Windows desktop, etc.). No other website I frequent has the CPU issue (though RAM is another matter entirely).

Been noted before here https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/tech...g-reports.html

A decade or so ago, when Randy owned the site, we could pay an annual $ fee for an add free FT. But have been told that is now not possible.

canadiancow Dec 17, 2017 1:25 am

This long predates November 15.

I have just never been pissed off enough to take the time to write about it.

54% was after it had significantly dropped enough to not be noticeably laggy. On my brand new MacBook Pro. 3.1GHz i5.

At least the ads that start playing sound automatically have mostly disappeared :rolleyes:

garykung Dec 17, 2017 1:38 am

Have you tried other browsers as well??

Add-ons from Chrome can cause the memory and CPU usage.

canadiancow Dec 17, 2017 1:42 am


Originally Posted by garykung (Post 29183472)
Have you tried other browsers as well??

No, I think if it can't handle the world's most popular browser, that's an FT issue.

Also, as I said, it's only FT. No other site consistently gets my CPU above 50%.


Originally Posted by garykung (Post 29183472)
Add-ons from Chrome can cause the memory and CPU usage.

I have some Google Drive stuff. Nothing that would run on flyertalk.com.

84fiero Dec 17, 2017 5:41 pm

This poster solved a similar high CPU usage by installing a bitcoin mining blocker. Might give it a try....would also be another data point as to whether IB's ad service is allowing bitcoin miners to slip in:

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29114024-post658.html


Originally Posted by TomMM https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/imag...s/viewpost.gif
Getting a lot of the same ads hijacking my phone as recently as this morning.

One thing that has been reported in the news lately is the use of Javascript Cryptocurrency Miner by some sites.

https://techcrunch.com/2017/10/13/su...f-other-sites/
But I think I found a solution to the huge CPU and memory usage in Chrome on Windows. I installed the "No Coin" extension that blocks coin mining in browser and that has drastically reduced CPU and memory usage on FT.

You guys have a real problem with ad quality control since you're allowing coin miners to hijack your site.

canadiancow Dec 17, 2017 5:44 pm


Originally Posted by 84fiero (Post 29185939)
This poster solved a similar high CPU usage by installing a bitcoin mining blocker. Might give it a try....would also be another data point as to whether IB's ad service is allowing bitcoin miners to slip in:

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29114024-post658.html

I'll give that a try, but if that fixes it... sigh.

And I thought the FT ads that autoplayed with sound were bad :rolleyes:

garykung Dec 18, 2017 4:03 am


Originally Posted by canadiancow (Post 29183482)
No, I think if it can't handle the world's most popular browser, that's an FT issue.

Also, as I said, it's only FT. No other site consistently gets my CPU above 50%.

What's your computer specs? Specifically, CPU, GPU, the amount of memory, HDD v. SSD.


Originally Posted by canadiancow (Post 29183482)
I have some Google Drive stuff. Nothing that would run on flyertalk.com.

No 3rd-party like Adobe?

canadiancow Dec 18, 2017 7:49 am


Originally Posted by garykung (Post 29187294)
What's your computer specs? Specifically, CPU, GPU, the amount of memory, HDD v. SSD.

I have multiple computers.

The current one is:

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...9205a40932.png



Originally Posted by garykung (Post 29187294)
No 3rd-party like Adobe?

No.

Parterre Dec 18, 2017 8:08 am

I was just going to post this, so I'm glad someone's brought it up. My computer is old, but the site is virtually unusable due to memory hogging. This wasn't the case before the update.

canadiancow Dec 18, 2017 8:10 am


Originally Posted by Parterre (Post 29187934)
I was just going to post this, so I'm glad someone's brought it up. My computer is old, but the site is virtually unusable due to memory hogging. This wasn't the case before the update.

I have been having this issue for as long as I can remember.

garykung Dec 18, 2017 3:03 pm


Originally Posted by canadiancow (Post 29187863)
I have multiple computers.

The current one is:

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...9205a40932.png

I have not experienced any issues as you describe.

In the 2 computers I tried (1 has a faster CPU than yours and 1 has a slower), both did not result a high memory and CPU consumption. However, they are both desktop PCs running latest Firefox (in private mode) on Windows 10.

You have your charger plugged in?

canadiancow Dec 18, 2017 3:14 pm


Originally Posted by garykung (Post 29189801)
I have not experienced any issues as you describe.

In the 2 computers I tried (1 has a faster CPU than yours and 1 has a slower), both did not result a high memory and CPU consumption. However, they are both desktop PCs running latest Firefox (in private mode) on Windows 10.

You have your charger plugged in?

It's not consistent, but it's frequent (right now, no issue, with 3 FT tabs open).

I almost always have my charger plugged in, and definitely did when I made this thread.

84fiero Dec 18, 2017 4:56 pm

While it's not being seen by everyone, at all times, this seems to be more than just an isolated one-user issue. In addition the post I linked upthread from the disruptive ads thread, some others have been posted in the main 15 Nov thread such as:

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29178901-post1032.html

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29178954-post1034.html

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29178963-post1035.html

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29179225-post1036.html

For about a week after the 15 Nov changes, I had similar slowness and high CPU usage on one particular laptop, though I didn't investigate in detail at the time. It's been OK since then.

kalderlake Dec 18, 2017 5:10 pm

It's been very slow for me as well--often not loading properly, freezing, and asking me if I want to kill the page or wait.

I subsequently stopped infinite scroll and set the number of posts per page at 5 and now it works fine.

I didn't check CPU/mem load, so I don't know if this is related.

Just thought I'd mention my problem/solution.

IBobi Dec 18, 2017 5:27 pm

You can also try clearing your cache. It's possible to have malware in your cache that exacerbates the performance hit of loading ads on a page.

garykung Dec 18, 2017 7:24 pm


Originally Posted by IBobi (Post 29190362)
You can also try clearing your cache. It's possible to have malware in your cache that exacerbates the performance hit of loading ads on a page.

I doubt that is the case. OP is using macOS. So the possibility of the malware is low.

canadiancow Dec 18, 2017 10:18 pm


Originally Posted by kalderlake (Post 29190319)
It's been very slow for me as well--often not loading properly, freezing, and asking me if I want to kill the page or wait.

I subsequently stopped infinite scroll and set the number of posts per page at 5 and now it works fine.

I didn't check CPU/mem load, so I don't know if this is related.

Just thought I'd mention my problem/solution.

I have infinite scroll disabled, but that didn't fix this.


Originally Posted by garykung (Post 29190705)
I doubt that is the case. OP is using macOS. So the possibility of the malware is low.

And one of my computers is a Chromebook.

garykung Dec 18, 2017 11:26 pm


Originally Posted by canadiancow (Post 29191108)
And one of my computers is a Chromebook.

Try other non-Chrome browsers and see.

wheresmybagba Dec 19, 2017 1:50 am

Flyertalk is riddled with malware. Read the other thread in this forum on disruptive ads and you (the OP) will see that your problem is common.
This has been going on forever and there seems to be no plan in place to deal with it.
FT is unusable for many now, and the only solutions that remedy this are not allowed to be discussed. It's all pretty ridiculous.

RichMSN Dec 19, 2017 8:28 am


Originally Posted by IBobi (Post 29190362)
You can also try clearing your cache. It's possible to have malware in your cache that exacerbates the performance hit of loading ads on a page.

I don't get this. We're supposed to jump through hoops to LOAD ADS?

I can think of one way around this problem.

gobluetwo Jan 15, 2018 1:55 pm


Originally Posted by IBobi (Post 29190362)
You can also try clearing your cache. It's possible to have malware in your cache that exacerbates the performance hit of loading ads on a page.

I've been having this issue for many many months on multiple browsers. I just got a new laptop last week and first time I logged into FT, memory hog. Ugh.

s0ssos Jan 22, 2018 8:59 am

Wow, my laptop's fan kept whirring, then I checked chrome and used its task manager function. Yup, Flyertalk, using up 35% of the cpu.

allset2travel Feb 10, 2018 11:01 am

FT is running VERY SLOW - How can I get it fixed
 

Originally Posted by kalderlake (Post 29190319)
It's been very slow for me as well--often not loading properly, freezing, and asking me if I want to kill the page or wait.

I subsequently stopped infinite scroll and set the number of posts per page at 5 and now it works fine.

I didn't check CPU/mem load, so I don't know if this is related.

Just thought I'd mention my problem/solution.

I have similar problem. I see many Ads running (some are videos).
How do you set page # as you did above? Thanks.

JDiver Feb 10, 2018 1:28 pm

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Originally Posted by allset2travel (Post 29401943)
I have similar problem. I see many Ads running (some are videos).
How do you set page # as you did above? Thanks.

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    allset2travel Feb 10, 2018 3:25 pm

    JDiver,

    Thank you very much. Very helpful!

    VickiSoCal Feb 12, 2018 11:21 pm

    Starting today it takes about 15 minutes to load FT, any forum, any thread in Chrome. At the bottom it says "waiting for secure.adnxs.com" and when I check task manager Chrome's using 50 to 60 percent of my CPU.

    BarneyMcGrew Feb 13, 2018 3:01 am


    Originally Posted by VickiSoCal (Post 29410696)
    Starting today it takes about 15 minutes to load FT, any forum, any thread in Chrome. At the bottom it says "waiting for secure.adncx.com" and when I check task manager Chrome's using 50 to 60 percent of my CPU.

    It is the same with the Firefox browser as well.

    The only browser I can find that is not really affected is Microsoft Edge.

    It seems to have started late last night as Safari on the iPad would only work very very slowly, if at all. I gave up in the end.

    BM

    Quark999 Feb 13, 2018 3:48 am

    Yep, same here.

    canopus27 Feb 13, 2018 5:41 am

    The problem seems to have got worse over the past few days - to the point that pages on FT were simply not loading. Among other issues (high CPU, hung pages), I saw an incredible spike in network traffic when I viewed any FT pages - we're talking higher network than anything else, for multiple minutes without end. Restarting my browser (and computer) did not help. I have finally but reluctantly installed an ad blocker - and all the problems have gone away now.

    As [MENTION=599574]canadiancow[/MENTION] noted above, I'm willing to display ads, and I'd like to support FT - but you guys need to find an ad provider that doesn't drag the site down to its knees.

    rylan Feb 13, 2018 6:42 am

    FT basically became unusable for me over the past couple days. My computer at home it just kills my browser... both Firefox and Chrome. Slows to a crawl with high CPU usage. Seems to be malicious or bad ads.

    My work computer is brand new ultra high end and it even slows down and the cpu maxes out. Whatever changed has made it so I won't be using the site until this is fixed. Loading a page sits there for minutes while my system stalls.

    gobluetwo Feb 13, 2018 6:59 am

    Glad others are posting this because I'm having the same issues with Chrome and FF. In chrome, it's "secure.adnxs.com" which is rendering FT completely unresponsive and jacking up the CPU.

    I will be utilizing "workarounds" to access FT until this issue is fixed.


    Originally Posted by IBobi (Post 29190362)
    You can also try clearing your cache. It's possible to have malware in your cache that exacerbates the performance hit of loading ads on a page.

    And as an FYI, the first time I tried logging into FT with a brand new laptop (all of 3 hours after initial setup), it ground to a halt. Pretty sure it's the ads/ad provider and not malware that is the issue.

    rylan Feb 13, 2018 7:04 am

    High network usage as well >5Mbps sustained for over 30 seconds, seems to be an ad trying to push a video.

    VickiSoCal Feb 13, 2018 8:36 am

    https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...cc8b3e9776.jpg
    https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...5322ff4f60.jpg

    Completely unusable this morning. I loaded an adblocker just so I could come here and tell you about it, otherwise I would not have been able to.

    canopus27 Feb 13, 2018 11:05 am


    Originally Posted by VickiSoCal (Post 29411442)
    Completely unusable this morning. I loaded an adblocker just so I could come here and tell you about it, otherwise I would not have been able to.

    I have to say, I'm loving how snappy and responsive FT is, now that I have an ad blocker active.

    I really really do want to support FT, and I'm more than happy to display ads to do that - but you have to find an ad partner who can serve ads that don't slow the site down. It sounds as though you're fixing the adnxs problem ... good ... but seriously, even once that's fixed, if the rest of your ads slow the site down as much as I suspect they will, it's going to be awfully hard turn off the adblocker.

    This doesn't seem like it should be that hard; just use an ad provider who renders content quickly & efficiently, and doesn't consume gobs of memory & CPU. The ads are fine. Excessive memory & CPU usage is not required, nor acceptable.

    IBJoel Feb 13, 2018 11:27 am

    Hi guys, I posted this in the other threads mentioning this, but we are aware of the "adnxs" causing the issue and are working on it.

    canadiancow Feb 13, 2018 11:46 am


    Originally Posted by canopus27 (Post 29411859)
    I have to say, I'm loving how snappy and responsive FT is, now that I have an ad blocker active.

    I really really do want to support FT, and I'm more than happy to display ads to do that - but you have to find an ad partner who can serve ads that don't slow the site down. It sounds as though you're fixing the adnxs problem ... good ... but seriously, even once that's fixed, if the rest of your ads slow the site down as much as I suspect they will, it's going to be awfully hard turn off the adblocker.

    This doesn't seem like it should be that hard; just use an ad provider who renders content quickly & efficiently, and doesn't consume gobs of memory & CPU. The ads are fine. Excessive memory & CPU usage is not required, nor acceptable.

    I have my ad blocker configured to allow unobtrusive ads. I think I will leave it like this forever. I'm still getting ads on a bunch of sites, just not on FT. This issue was definitely the straw that broke the camel's (cow's?) back. I should have done this after the first ad played audio on page load.

    gobluetwo Feb 14, 2018 10:38 am

    Thanks for fixing that other ad issues (secure.adnxs.com). However, FT is still a ridiculous resource hog in Chrome due to the ad scripts. This is FT memory usage with ad blocker turned OFF:
    https://i.imgur.com/1S0qyh6.png

    And this is CPU usage with an ad blocker turned on:
    https://i.imgur.com/P9Wyx9E.png

    The obvious conclusion is that the ad scripts on FT are significantly degrading not only the site user experience, but impacting the overall performance of our machines. This needs to be fixed.

    canadiancow Feb 14, 2018 10:47 am


    Originally Posted by gobluetwo (Post 29416122)
    Thanks for fixing that other ad issues (secure.adnxs.com). However, FT is still a ridiculous resource hog in Chrome due to the ad scripts. This is FT memory usage with ad blocker turned OFF:
    https://i.imgur.com/1S0qyh6.png

    And this is CPU usage with an ad blocker turned on:
    https://i.imgur.com/P9Wyx9E.png

    The obvious conclusion is that the ad scripts on FT are significantly degrading not only the site user experience, but impacting the overall performance of our machines. This needs to be fixed.

    Seems like you already fixed it :p

    gobluetwo Feb 14, 2018 1:49 pm


    Originally Posted by canadiancow (Post 29416168)
    Seems like you already fixed it :p

    Lol, fair point :)

    Although I am trying to be a good corporate citizen (or something) and respect the wishes of the FlyerTalkerati...

    https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...NZDFKyATgIjgsr


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