Originally Posted by IBobi (Post 27393081)

This is why testing this feature in threads one has never visited is not germane to the discussion. I will continue testing in threads that are being visited. It's perhaps indicative of a non-ideal result for that button in that particular situation (maybe pushing that button on an unvisited thread should take you to the first post instead of the last), but it is not what is causing this thread. What's causing this thread is "I read X thread every day and now when I press the First Unread button, I am being taken somewhere I should not be."

I am working with the developers to determine if there is a difference in the code used in the previous version and this version that we are on now.

I'll update you with progress, and will ask for more information as needed. Thank you.

Originally Posted by Finkface (Post 27393283)

snip...

For me, it is all about the threads I follow/read a lot. Clicking on that icon does not always work as it is supposed to - namely taking me to the first post following the last one that I have already read, sometimes just minutes or hours before.

Originally Posted by Finkface (Post 27393283)

This. I only ever use this feature on threads I read often, or that I have read previously and want to catch the newest posts. I have never used it on threads that I have never visited before. That isn't the point. For those, I click on the thread title and start at the beginning.

For me, it is all about the threads I follow/read a lot. Clicking on that icon does not always work as it is supposed to - namely taking me to the first post following the last one that I have already read, sometimes just minutes or hours before.

Originally Posted by Silver Fox (Post 27394100)

Agree, same for all of us that are reporting this.

Hopefully they understand the problem finally and can concentrate on that. The clue is in the name "View First Unread" and strangely that is what I expect it to do! It works fine on many other fora I visit outside of FT and is a fundamental, basic feature these days. I truly cannot understand why this was so hard to understand but I couldn't care less so long as it is fixed.

Originally Posted by IBobi (Post 27393081)

This is why testing this feature in threads one has never visited is not germane to the discussion. I will continue testing in threads that are being visited. It's perhaps indicative of a non-ideal result for that button in that particular situation (maybe pushing that button on an unvisited thread should take you to the first post instead of the last), but it is not what is causing this thread. What's causing this thread is "I read X thread every day and now when I press the First Unread button, I am being taken somewhere I should not be."

I am working with the developers to determine if there is a difference in the code used in the previous version and this version that we are on now.

I'll update you with progress, and will ask for more information as needed. Thank you.

Originally Posted by chgoeditor (Post 27395062)

I admire the fact that you all apparently have great memories, but I don't. I can't always remember if I've read a thread in the past, so I'd like the functionality to work correctly REGARDLESS of whether I've read a thread or not. If the code is (theoretically) able to know that it should take me to post #72, then it should also be capable of taking me to post #1.

Originally Posted by Silver Fox (Post 27395118)

If I have not read a thread at all, click on it, and then click "View First Unread" I go straight to the last entry on the last page. I am not sure that is correct either, but one step at a time in this case.

And I have threads that I always go back to so I am certain of the way it should work, and has worked. But I like it when someone says I have a great memory as I am beginning to wonder ! :)

Originally Posted by IBobi (Post 27388835)

That all seems to be functioning correctly (with one caveat -- going to the bottom of an unvisited thread rather than the top...).

Remember, again -- the software cannot determine what *post* you read or did not read when last you visited. It will take you to the *page* that the next most recent post (since you last looked) resides on.

EXAMPLE:

(you have your settings to display 40 posts per page in this example)

If the last time you checked a thread, the most recent post was post #45 (this would put you on page 2 of the thread, since you view 40 posts per page), and you go back to the thread after there are 77 posts in that thread, it will take you to page 2 again (somewhere on page 2 -- there is no way for it to know where your eyes scanned or scrolled). If there are now 85, or 850 posts in the thread, it should still take you to page 2, since you never viewed past that page. But again, it may not take you to the exact post you last viewed, because it cannot track this.

In the above cases, it looks like it was taking you to the last page in a thread, either because you had never viewed the thread before (in which case perhaps it should take you to the beginning rather than the end, I agree -- but it does not seem to do this for me -- at least this is consistent), or because that's the page you had last viewed.

Another wrinkle can come into the situation if you *ever* use the "mark forums read" link, in which case hitting the "first new post" button will act as though you have read up to the last page in *every thread on FT*.