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flipside Mar 6, 2003 5:50 pm

pop ups return!!
 
I just got a pop-up from that darn "boost your PC speed" thing...

I thought this was a pop-up free site. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/frown.gif

thesilb Mar 6, 2003 7:32 pm

Yeah, I just got one from Merrick Bank mastercard. Bummer. Bummer. Bummer.

FewMiles Mar 6, 2003 11:54 pm

I see no ads at all. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif

FewMiles..

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ScottC Mar 6, 2003 11:57 pm

Yes, several pop-ups here too. Although I like to support FT I have turned on my popup killer after seeing a few of them.

robb Mar 7, 2003 7:22 am

Are you sure these are coming from flyertalk and not other browser windows?

I use IE6 and have never seen a pop-up from flyertalk.

ozstamps Mar 7, 2003 7:30 am



Same story as Robb. And I have no pop-up filter/killer.

peter42 Mar 7, 2003 7:31 am

They come from flyertalk, just set your mozilla to deny popups from that site :-) .

gleff Mar 7, 2003 9:53 am

i don't filter popups and have never gotten a popup from FT

cblaisd Mar 7, 2003 9:53 am

Same setup as Robb, but I got the attempted pop-up. But PopUp Stopper ( www.panicware.com ) killed it before it ever popped and had that satisfying crushing sound to boot http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif

dan at WebFlyer Mar 7, 2003 10:22 am

Are the ads popping up over your FT window, or are they staying behind your window? Our ad company is trying a popunder campaign for us...

cblaisd Mar 7, 2003 10:37 am

Dan,

I don't know. PopUp Stopper killed it before it could pop.

I understand and fully appreciate the need for FT to have advertising. But I'd also glady pay a premium price for an ad-free version.


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by dan at WebFlyer:
Are the ads popping up over your FT window, or are they staying behind your window? Our ad company is trying a popunder campaign for us...</font>

CameraGuy Mar 7, 2003 10:39 am

I had a pop-under for USAirways.

FewMiles Mar 7, 2003 12:23 pm

If anything, pop-under ads piss me off even more than pop-ups. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/mad.gif

FewMiles..

dan at WebFlyer Mar 7, 2003 12:49 pm

The popunders are set to only show once per user per day (per campaign). So, you shouldn't get too many...

FewMiles, why do you like popunders less than -overs?

hfly Mar 7, 2003 6:35 pm

Dan,

YEsterday I had about 6 of them all at once and they actually crashed my browser. Today I had less, but they are of the annoying click click variety. The speed and amount of them is annoying. Perhaps less in a session would be more reasonable?

JRF Mar 7, 2003 7:08 pm

I have had multiple popunders per session. Not to mention bogus advertising "you are the winner today" when it is nothing more then a cookie to I am not the winner again today.

I would be willing to pay to use the BBS, but keep these popups/unders and I am gone.

thesilb Mar 7, 2003 10:00 pm

They have all been "unders" but I have certainly had multiple ones - I have had Merrick Bank three or four times today now. Guess I have to go out and get some popup killer software now. Unbearable to have popups on a site I use so much. Popups are the most highly annoying form of advertising I have ever encountered. Its such a feeling of violating and causes a lot of ill will towards the entity which slams me with them.

ScottC Mar 7, 2003 10:59 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by thesilb:
They have all been "unders" but I have certainly had multiple ones - I have had Merrick Bank three or four times today now. Guess I have to go out and get some popup killer software now. Unbearable to have popups on a site I use so much. Popups are the most highly annoying form of advertising I have ever encountered. Its such a feeling of violating and causes a lot of ill will towards the entity which slams me with them.</font>
There is something worse than popups, those full screen ad's folks like weather.com use are way beyond the annoyance of a popup/under.



ozstamps Mar 7, 2003 11:05 pm

I do not get them so they do not bother me. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif

However I recall Randy posting a year or so back that pop-ups annoy him as much as anyone here and that he'd asked the vendor not to have them on FT?

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ClueByFour Mar 8, 2003 3:36 pm

I'd second the motion about paying a subscription to not have pop-up or pop-under ads.

I don't think I'm alone in this, either. Pop-(anything) ads are the most annoying type of advertising possible, and I'm saddened to see the IF/Webflyer/FT folks going down this road. Put an extra ad in the static HTML of threads or the like, but please lose the pop-up/pop-unders.

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gleff Mar 8, 2003 3:50 pm

Just got a popup ad that I didn't even notice at first.

I was in the UA forum and I got another browser window opened which was only about 1/18th the size of my screen.

And since I was clicking in the main window when it came up I only noticed it upon closing my main browser window.

I am sure, though, that it was from FT because FT was the only site I went to during the session and the ad had a picture of a plane or some such.

ql2112 Mar 8, 2003 4:25 pm

Those having popups when reading FT might have some spyware on their PC that is causing the unwanted popups.
Download AdAware or PestControl (both free and easily found using Google) to clean your PC of that junk.

robb Mar 8, 2003 5:36 pm

Never mind, I am seeing pop-under ads today.

Ick.

I recently read an article somewhere pointing out how effective text ads are when compared to popup/popunder and banner ads. It said that these ads have a far higher click-through than the other choices.

One type of ad that is often done really well is the interstitial ads you see appearing on more sites these days. They are certainly more intrusive than any other type of ad, but they are often entertaining enough to overcome that.

For all the companing people do about the intrusiveness of ads, I think 90% of the time the problem they really have is that the sponsors are lower-end, like late-night infomercials, instead of high-quality national advertisers with a significant level of creative effort invested in the impression.

So, having rambled on about all of that (are you sorry you asked, Dan? http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif ), I'd say that I'd prefer to buy a subscription to flyertalk (ala slashdot's system that allows you to buy your way out of x ad pages) rather than deal with low-quality ads of any variety. With better ads, I wouldn't care.

JRF Mar 8, 2003 8:14 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by ql2112:
Those having popups when reading FT might have some spyware on their PC that is causing the unwanted popups.
Download AdAware or PestControl (both free and easily found using Google) to clean your PC of that junk.
</font>
I don't thank you, and am getting the pop ups and unders......

FewMiles Mar 9, 2003 1:40 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by dan at WebFlyer:
FewMiles, why do you like popunders less than -overs?</font>
Pop-ups at least you can kill by hitting Ctrl-W as soon as you see it appear, but pop-unders do their dirty work by first "hiding" behind your main window. Either way it doesn't matter now, because I have suppressed the ads completely -- those flashing ads (especially the ones advocating the sale of FF miles!) and then the pop-ups and pop-unders were the last straw.

Gotta agree with ScottC about the full-screen ads - very annoying!

FewMiles..

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MatthewClement Mar 10, 2003 1:03 am

Aargh. These ads really are very annoying.

I, for one, make it a point of principle not to buy anything from a vendor who advertises using pop-ups/unders.

not2bgrounded Mar 10, 2003 9:09 am

Double aargh.
FlyerTalk Spam!
I get the popups with every change (from forum to forum, individual message to forum, etc.).
Help!
I don't know how to turn them off and would love more details about how to do that.

dan at WebFlyer Mar 10, 2003 11:38 am

Thanks for all the feedback on these... I'm sending it on to our Ad people and Randy. Sorry about the multiple occurences; from what we've been told, they shouldn't be behaving that way.

robb Mar 10, 2003 12:07 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by 2bgrounded:
Double aargh.
FlyerTalk Spam!
I get the popups with every change (from forum to forum, individual message to forum, etc.).
Help!
I don't know how to turn them off and would love more details about how to do that.
</font>
Do you have your browser set to reject cookies? I imagine that it uses a cookie on your machine to see that you've already gotten the ad once today.

I should add to all of this that I appreciate the effort that flyertalk makes to be as unobtrusive as possible where advertising is concerned.

So, thanks!

[This message has been edited by robb (edited 03-11-2003).]

RupertS Mar 10, 2003 8:57 pm

Add one to the group that'd be happy to pay for a site that's ad-free. I don't think I'd be as philosophically opposed as I am yo pop-ups if the content was't so lame and outright condescending.

This 'PC Performance Wizard' claims to be able to optimize my PC's performance. Ok, Oh Godly Javascript-based-popup, I'm using Redhat 6.2 with Gnome/Sawfish and a 2.4 series kernel that has custom patches and kernel modules. Optimize _that_ (and have fun trying to install the requisite spyware while you're at it).

I do not gamble. I'm happy with my abs. I like my kernel and/or registry exactly as they are. I do not need another credit card (do the ones your company is hawking even offer miles or points) ? And finally, I do not need a furry purple animal watching my every move as I traverse the net.


Goldfishhh Mar 13, 2003 5:49 am

One problem with pop-up ads especially on this site, is it messes up te "last visited" marker.

I don't see anymore of the little yellow dots on the left side.

Please make the pop-up ads go away.

dan at WebFlyer Mar 13, 2003 9:14 am

I've contacted our ad company about the cookie problem...

UPDATE:

They've told me the only cookie they're serving for the popunders is "a.tribalfusion.com", which shouldn't have anything to do with the FlyerTalk cookies (originating from flyertalk.com and www.flyertalk.com).

For those of you that are having the cookie problems, what browsers are you using?

[This message has been edited by dan at WebFlyer (edited 03-14-2003).]

JRF Mar 15, 2003 7:42 pm

Dan,

This is not right. There was an add last week, I dont know if it is still running, and it said that you were the winner today or this hour (cant remember which) and if you did not click on it you never saw that add again. The cookie from this I think was causing the problem for me.

On Monday when I get a chance I will wipe out all the cookies on my trouble shooting computer and see what cookies are being sent.

dan at WebFlyer Mar 17, 2003 10:21 am

We pulled the "Winner" campaign as soon as we saw it, and told both our ad companies not to run those flashing types of ads, so you shouldn't be seeing those at all.

Yeah, check on the cookies on your machine and let me know what you find. I cleared all mine last week and ran through a few pages on FT then check my cookies, and all I got were a couple from flyertalk.com (last visited, etc) and one from tribalfusion.

KathyWdrf Mar 19, 2003 3:40 pm

I'm still getting popups from FlyerTalk. They are from the same companies as the banner ads.

Got one from match.com and another from something else (sorry, forgot what!) in the last couple days.


Kathy

dan at WebFlyer Mar 20, 2003 9:28 am

Are they popping above your browser and staying there, or are they ending up behind your current browser window? As for getting them, you should be, but only one per company per day (as long as you have cookies enabled).

Goldfishhh Mar 21, 2003 5:35 am

For some reason, yet again, I am getting these pop-ups. I have been waiting to find one that I can capture the llink for which I can post it. Well, here it is!

http://www.partner2profit.com/redir....pcode=4387179B

This link was at the top of the browser. I don't mind ads and I think that this is a great way to support a website, I really don't want to see ads on Viagra for women.


dan at WebFlyer Mar 21, 2003 9:33 am

As for getting the popunders, you should be; some of the campaigns being booked on FT are popunders.

I'll forward the ad complaint to our ad service, though.

Goldfishhh Mar 24, 2003 6:10 am

They are popping up and appearing behind my browser window. It isn't that big of a deal if they are in the background (and I do have cookies enabled and I do run pop-up killer).

The big problem is every time I do get a pop-up, it resets my "last visited" pointer on FT. I don't get the cute "yellow" bullets vs. gray.

It is a minor annoyance and I know that I can overcome it, however please put in the good word with the advertiser.

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

JRF Mar 24, 2003 6:57 am

I have the same problem, I think I will just visit FT a lot less. Does Randy know about these Pop-Unders?


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