Proposal: Allow members to remove their IDs and expunge all associated posts.
Dec 7, 2008, 9:56 am
#31
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If the concern is limited to Omni, why not just flush all of Omni every few years instead or sunset posts after a year?
The few long running games could easily be restarted, and I bet the rest wouldn't be missed, whereas some travel/miles info is of use many years later.
View it as a way to reduce earth's vanishing supply of archive drives.
The few long running games could easily be restarted, and I bet the rest wouldn't be missed, whereas some travel/miles info is of use many years later.
View it as a way to reduce earth's vanishing supply of archive drives.
Dec 7, 2008, 10:47 am
#32
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birdstrike has also been among my favorite Omni posters (well, and just plain old favorite people) and it is sad to see him go as well.
Omni is open to all now, but certainly at the expensive of quality, thought-provoking posts.
Dec 7, 2008, 10:58 am
#33
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Dec 7, 2008, 1:05 pm
#34
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It's feelings like this that I completely understand, but that make me sad. I am one who found LLM's posts "pithy and well-researched". I hate to see those go and to lose LLM as a poster.
birdstrike has also been among my favorite Omni posters (well, and just plain old favorite people) and it is sad to see him go as well.
Omni is open to all now, but certainly at the expensive of quality, thought-provoking posts.
birdstrike has also been among my favorite Omni posters (well, and just plain old favorite people) and it is sad to see him go as well.
Omni is open to all now, but certainly at the expensive of quality, thought-provoking posts.
I already miss some of the old regulars and their insights and opinions.
Now all that's being posted is fluff.
Dec 7, 2008, 1:19 pm
#35
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Will those with 10,000, 20,000, or 30,000 posts in number counting games see their post count decrease under this scenario, or those whose home forum, and majority of posts, have come from OMNI in prior years when they counted? Curious what those folks would think about this proposal. Would they want to see their post count drop by thousands? I know some here have 85% or more of their posts in OMNI so they would take a serious hit, so their opinion should be considered before all prior OMNI threads get purged.
Dec 7, 2008, 1:22 pm
#36
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Post counts are meaningless and if my Omni counts disappeared I probably wouldn't notice, or care if I did notice.
As they might say in NYC - post counts and a token will get you a ride on the subway
As they might say in NYC - post counts and a token will get you a ride on the subway
Dec 7, 2008, 7:50 pm
#38
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There are a number of OMNI posters who realized the silly things they have posted are actually attributable to them as real people. There has been a scramble for name changes and post removals.
That is my beef.... if people are not accountable for their words, the silly season will continue.
That is my beef.... if people are not accountable for their words, the silly season will continue.
So this is like a case where you discover that everything you said in a bar, or on a hunting trip with some friends, was recorded and posted on youtube.
Dec 7, 2008, 11:40 pm
#39
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I haven't heard one poster say they did not claim responsibility for their words.
Two reasons for the change:
1) The viewership changed. If the playing field changes, the rules should change as well.
2) If other public fora allow it, why should FlyerTalk not? I see it as a matter of common courtesy.
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Two reasons for the change:
1) The viewership changed. If the playing field changes, the rules should change as well.
2) If other public fora allow it, why should FlyerTalk not? I see it as a matter of common courtesy.
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Dec 8, 2008, 1:00 am
#40
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Dec 8, 2008, 1:04 am
#41
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Dec 8, 2008, 6:28 pm
#42
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, but I'm wondering if you can name a few of these enlightened forums please? I haven't seen any that allow it.Plaxo and LinkedIn simply warn you that you are about to delete everything and then let you do it. I don't know about the mechanics for FaceBook.
So far, the response seems to be in favor of implementing this feature.
Dec 10, 2008, 5:11 am
#43
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birdstrike
Rather than beat this absurd "everyone can now access OMNI, booo, hoo, hoo," horse even more to death (if that is possible) can I make a suggestion?
As you will surely realise - this has nothing WHATEVER to do with Talkboard.
Why not email Randy and request he deletes you as a user and deletes all your posts.
On the Admin control panel this is a 10 second process.
Then ask him for permission to re-join with a different handle.
I'd suspect he will decline on both counts, but that's his call, and his only.
It is between you and him ... no-one else.@:-)
No-one in their right mind has ever posted ANYTHING to FT that they do not want 50,000 folks to have access to. Nature of the BB beast.
And that of course was ALREADY the case when OMNI was partially blocked.
Unless you and the others still whining about it all were close personal friends with all those 50,000 of whatever members with full access, you should NOT have posted anything you did not want those existing 50,000 to read.
The TOS clearly says FT owns your post. And has said that for MANY years. Anyone who ignored that clear piece of advice did so at this own risk I'd say. @:-)
Removing any one member's post and wrecking the flow of possibly 1000s of threads is a ridiculous and totally unworkable suggestion. IMHO.
Glen
Rather than beat this absurd "everyone can now access OMNI, booo, hoo, hoo," horse even more to death (if that is possible) can I make a suggestion?
As you will surely realise - this has nothing WHATEVER to do with Talkboard.
Why not email Randy and request he deletes you as a user and deletes all your posts.
On the Admin control panel this is a 10 second process.
Then ask him for permission to re-join with a different handle.
I'd suspect he will decline on both counts, but that's his call, and his only.
It is between you and him ... no-one else.@:-)
No-one in their right mind has ever posted ANYTHING to FT that they do not want 50,000 folks to have access to. Nature of the BB beast.
And that of course was ALREADY the case when OMNI was partially blocked.
Unless you and the others still whining about it all were close personal friends with all those 50,000 of whatever members with full access, you should NOT have posted anything you did not want those existing 50,000 to read.
The TOS clearly says FT owns your post. And has said that for MANY years. Anyone who ignored that clear piece of advice did so at this own risk I'd say. @:-)
Removing any one member's post and wrecking the flow of possibly 1000s of threads is a ridiculous and totally unworkable suggestion. IMHO.
Glen
Dec 10, 2008, 9:27 am
#44
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That role may be over now, but I'm simply continuing the traditional forms.
As far as it being between Randy and myself, that is preposterous. More people than myself are concerned. FlyerTalk is owned by IB, and TalkBoard is still our citizens advisory committee. Randy still appears to hold the ultimate power here, but until he accedes to my request, denies my request, or bans me, there is still room for dialog.
No-one in their right mind has ever posted ANYTHING to FT that they do not want 50,000 folks to have access to. Nature of the BB beast.
And that of course was ALREADY the case when OMNI was partially blocked.
Unless you and the others still whining about it all were close personal friends with all those 50,000 of whatever members with full access, you should NOT have posted anything you did not want those existing 50,000 to read.
And that of course was ALREADY the case when OMNI was partially blocked.
Unless you and the others still whining about it all were close personal friends with all those 50,000 of whatever members with full access, you should NOT have posted anything you did not want those existing 50,000 to read.
No, it isn't unworkable. Members can delete their own posts one at a time. From a practical, per-thread, point of view it makes a barely discernible difference in the flow. From a global perspective, a few thousand posts buried within ten million posts over ten years is, to all intents and purposes, invisible.
Dec 10, 2008, 1:40 pm
#45
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I think that this is a very bad idea.
Knowing that I can expunge posts and nic takes away any accountability that might be needed. I can post anything, good or bad, knowing that I can delete my nic and expunge that post.
Members need to think about what their posts can do "UP FRONT" This way we stay honest and accountable!
Knowing that I can expunge posts and nic takes away any accountability that might be needed. I can post anything, good or bad, knowing that I can delete my nic and expunge that post.
Members need to think about what their posts can do "UP FRONT" This way we stay honest and accountable!