Voting Complete - Motion Passed: Permit Test of Photos in 4 Forums
#61
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Dec 1999
Programs: Marriott Lifetime Titanium
Posts: 15,354
We shouldn't be catering to those who don't log in. Or those with 56K lines. Or any other very small minority of users.
#62
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Point Place, Wisconsin
Programs: LH HON, BA Gold, EK Gold
Posts: 14,505
FT is already painfully slow. How will pictures impact performance of the site ?
#63
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: ATL
Programs: DL, AA
Posts: 6,031
If you don't want to endure the slower load time for in-thread photos, you can just not enable the "view in-thread photos" option. A link will appear in the post if you want to click through to one or two of the photos (as you do now in all forums except Trip Reports and Travel Photography).
#64
In Memoriam, FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Southern California
Programs: DL: 3.8 MM, Marriott: Lifetime Titanium
Posts: 24,575
If you don't want to endure the slower load time for in-thread photos, you can just not enable the "view in-thread photos" option. A link will appear in the post if you want to click through to one or two of the photos (as you do now in all forums except Trip Reports and Travel Photography).
Here's what appears when you go to MyFlyerTalk Settings and Options: Edit Options:
Visible Post Elements
You have the option to show or hide various elements of messages, which may be of use to users on slow internet connections, or who want to remove extraneous clutter from posts.
Show Signatures
Show Avatars
Show Images (including attached images and images in [IMG] code)
You have the option to show or hide various elements of messages, which may be of use to users on slow internet connections, or who want to remove extraneous clutter from posts.
Show Signatures
Show Avatars
Show Images (including attached images and images in [IMG] code)
Yeah you have to be logged into FT for this to kick in but, as was said earlier, I think we should be catering to those logged in and registered to FT rather than those who are not.
#65
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Houston
Programs: WN, Marriott, Choice
Posts: 420
At this time, there are many threads with links to photobucket and other image hosting sites. This seems to be working quite well. As to allowing photos in-thread, I'd have to agree with those who mentioned thumbnails that link to off-site hosting.
I agree with the opt-in concept.
Photos should also be available only to members, as opposed to guests. A benefit of membership, so to speak. Similar to CC and OMNI, a member would not be allowed to post photos in most fora, notably excepted; Travel Photography, until sufficient time/post count has been reached. For those who have yet to reach the threshhold, an embedded link, without graphics, to an off-site host would be permitted. This is currently the case.
Photos should be forum-specific. Would the Mods have the ability to delete an inappropriate photo while keeping the rest of the post intact?
I agree with the opt-in concept.
Photos should also be available only to members, as opposed to guests. A benefit of membership, so to speak. Similar to CC and OMNI, a member would not be allowed to post photos in most fora, notably excepted; Travel Photography, until sufficient time/post count has been reached. For those who have yet to reach the threshhold, an embedded link, without graphics, to an off-site host would be permitted. This is currently the case.
Photos should be forum-specific. Would the Mods have the ability to delete an inappropriate photo while keeping the rest of the post intact?
#66
In Memoriam, FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Southern California
Programs: DL: 3.8 MM, Marriott: Lifetime Titanium
Posts: 24,575
Photos should also be available only to members, as opposed to guests. A benefit of membership, so to speak. Similar to CC and OMNI, a member would not be allowed to post photos in most fora, notably excepted; Travel Photography, until sufficient time/post count has been reached. For those who have yet to reach the threshhold, an embedded link, without graphics, to an off-site host would be permitted. This is currently the case.
Yes, much as they do with an inappropriate words. They can excise a specific photo or word rather than deleting the whole post.
#67
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: DEN
Programs: UA 1MM, Delta Plat
Posts: 11,224
I vote yes, but I cringe at what the "Food that's disgusting no matter how you look at it" thread will turn into.
#68
Moderator: Coupon Connection & S.P.A.M
Original Poster
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Louisville, KY
Programs: Destination Unknown, TSA Disparager Diamond (LTDD)
Posts: 57,953
Motion Passed.
On 31 May 2008, the TalkBoard unanimously passed:
Moved by Spiff and seconded by Jenbel:
"that the TalkBoard recommends expanding graphics capabilities to the following four forums: CommunityBuzz! , Flying Blue (and subforums), Starwood and Luxury Hotels. Graphics added to posts must respect the FlyerTalk TOS. If no serious problems arise after a three month trial, the TalkBoard may recommend that graphics may be added to other forums."
Moved by Spiff and seconded by Jenbel:
"that the TalkBoard recommends expanding graphics capabilities to the following four forums: CommunityBuzz! , Flying Blue (and subforums), Starwood and Luxury Hotels. Graphics added to posts must respect the FlyerTalk TOS. If no serious problems arise after a three month trial, the TalkBoard may recommend that graphics may be added to other forums."
#69
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Home
Programs: AA, Delta, UA & thanks to FTers for my PC Gold!
Posts: 7,676
Some Suggestions
On 31 May 2008, the TalkBoard unanimously passed:
Moved by Spiff and seconded by Jenbel:
"that the TalkBoard recommends expanding graphics capabilities to the following four forums: CommunityBuzz! , Flying Blue (and subforums), Starwood and Luxury Hotels. Graphics added to posts must respect the FlyerTalk TOS. If no serious problems arise after a three month trial, the TalkBoard may recommend that graphics may be added to other forums."
Moved by Spiff and seconded by Jenbel:
"that the TalkBoard recommends expanding graphics capabilities to the following four forums: CommunityBuzz! , Flying Blue (and subforums), Starwood and Luxury Hotels. Graphics added to posts must respect the FlyerTalk TOS. If no serious problems arise after a three month trial, the TalkBoard may recommend that graphics may be added to other forums."
1. A "universal" 3-month trial announcement in those 4 fora since I assume not everyone visiting those fora frequent TB Forum.
2. Establish forum-specific feeback thread (maybe as a temp stickie?) in each selected forum so the forum mods can easily assist and monitor the test progress & assuming some fora may have some unique usage or input for graphics.
3. Establish a general feedback or discussion thread here at TB Forum so TB can gather input more effectively.
IIRC, TB decided not to impose spec on the photos. If we have some technical guideline (non-TOS related), maybe we can make it clear in the forum announcement. I asssume some less tech-savvy FTers may want to give it a try but don't know where or how to start. Graphic "newbies" may cause more problems and burden to the mods without proper guidance. I know our Travel Photography Forum has wonderful stickies for starters. Cross reference to the resources may be helpful to this trial project.
#70
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Greener Pastures
Posts: 10,515
In order to get more comprehensive feedback from the 4 chosen test fora, I have a couple of suggestions:
1. A "universal" 3-month trial announcement in those 4 fora since I assume not everyone visiting those fora frequent TB Forum.
2. Establish forum-specific feeback thread (maybe as a temp stickie?) in each selected forum so the forum mods can easily assist and monitor the test progress & assuming some fora may have some unique usage or input for graphics.
3. Establish a general feedback or discussion thread here at TB Forum so TB can gather input more effectively.
IIRC, TB decided not to impose spec on the photos. If we have some technical guideline (non-TOS related), maybe we can make it clear in the forum announcement. I asssume some less tech-savvy FTers may want to give it a try but don't know where or how to start. Graphic "newbies" may cause more problems and burden to the mods without proper guidance. I know our Travel Photography Forum has wonderful stickies for starters. Cross reference to the resources may be helpful to this trial project.
1. A "universal" 3-month trial announcement in those 4 fora since I assume not everyone visiting those fora frequent TB Forum.
2. Establish forum-specific feeback thread (maybe as a temp stickie?) in each selected forum so the forum mods can easily assist and monitor the test progress & assuming some fora may have some unique usage or input for graphics.
3. Establish a general feedback or discussion thread here at TB Forum so TB can gather input more effectively.
IIRC, TB decided not to impose spec on the photos. If we have some technical guideline (non-TOS related), maybe we can make it clear in the forum announcement. I asssume some less tech-savvy FTers may want to give it a try but don't know where or how to start. Graphic "newbies" may cause more problems and burden to the mods without proper guidance. I know our Travel Photography Forum has wonderful stickies for starters. Cross reference to the resources may be helpful to this trial project.
Great suggestions! ^^
#71
Community Director Emerita
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Anywhere warm
Posts: 33,755
Does anyone know when the 3 month trial period started? I know it was delayed for some months after the motion was passed, awaiting some changes by IB.
In the Starwood forum, a number of members have added photos to their reports. The ability to use images has been used appropriately and given us a better understanding of the hotel and rooms under discussion.
In the Starwood forum, a number of members have added photos to their reports. The ability to use images has been used appropriately and given us a better understanding of the hotel and rooms under discussion.
#72
In Memoriam, FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Southern California
Programs: DL: 3.8 MM, Marriott: Lifetime Titanium
Posts: 24,575
We put up a general announcement in CommunityBuzz! on October 7th so it's been nearly 60 days.
And we've had no issues except for a few questionable images in that AMS contest thread that had a gazillion posts.
Overall I'm pleased with the test thus far.
And we've had no issues except for a few questionable images in that AMS contest thread that had a gazillion posts.
Overall I'm pleased with the test thus far.
Last edited by Cholula; Dec 1, 2008 at 9:09 pm
#73
Original Member, Ambassador: External Miles and Points Resources
Join Date: May 1998
Location: Digital Nomad Wandering the Earth - Currently in LIMA, PERU
Posts: 58,626
I see no reason not to expand the use of photos....
#74
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: back to my roots in Scotland!
Programs: Tamsin - what else is there to say?
Posts: 47,843
As Cholula said, we did have some issues in Cbuzz.
I would certainly keep images out of Omni, based on what we had to clean up in an Omni type thread in Community.
Our most complaints came when people posted moving images - animated smilies generally. Lots of members didn't like. Given they don't add much to FT, it may be useful to look at prohibiting them. but helpful that it was identified in the trial.
Other dodgy images included NSFW and overly large images. We had an announcement asking people to consider others when posting images,so that was not 100% effective
I would certainly keep images out of Omni, based on what we had to clean up in an Omni type thread in Community.
Our most complaints came when people posted moving images - animated smilies generally. Lots of members didn't like. Given they don't add much to FT, it may be useful to look at prohibiting them. but helpful that it was identified in the trial.
Other dodgy images included NSFW and overly large images. We had an announcement asking people to consider others when posting images,so that was not 100% effective
#75
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: NYC (formerly BOS/DCA)
Programs: UA 1K, IC RA
Posts: 60,745
As Cholula said, we did have some issues in Cbuzz.
I would certainly keep images out of Omni, based on what we had to clean up in an Omni type thread in Community.
Our most complaints came when people posted moving images - animated smilies generally. Lots of members didn't like. Given they don't add much to FT, it may be useful to look at prohibiting them. but helpful that it was identified in the trial.
Other dodgy images included NSFW and overly large images. We had an announcement asking people to consider others when posting images,so that was not 100% effective
I would certainly keep images out of Omni, based on what we had to clean up in an Omni type thread in Community.
Our most complaints came when people posted moving images - animated smilies generally. Lots of members didn't like. Given they don't add much to FT, it may be useful to look at prohibiting them. but helpful that it was identified in the trial.
Other dodgy images included NSFW and overly large images. We had an announcement asking people to consider others when posting images,so that was not 100% effective
I thought the test was a huge success and I wish FT would open up images site-wide.