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Old Oct 12, 2007 | 10:24 am
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Does the TB interact with IB?

Over on ORP there is a discussion about advertising on FT, and Randy mentioned that:

Originally Posted by Randy Petersen
at the rate of the US Dollar, the Euro crowd is getting it at USD$6. And even those great Canadians now have the bargain of the year!

But seriously, i don't think you need to spend anything. This has been IB's sort of trial by fire and the first time they have been able to experience the culture and expectation of the members of FlyerTalk firsthand. While we did explain it, there's nothing like experiencing it yourself. I think they have learned a lot from this and in just a few weeks, more than 40 moderators are meeting with them face-to-face and as you'll see from their comments representing the members, the Moderators will be quite vocal in their expectations on behalf of our members. By the end of the day, Sat. Nov. 3rd, there will be no question on IB's behalf about this issue, trust me. In 6 different Moderator online chats this week, it has been one of the most vocal issues in those chats that IB has participated on. And again, with the upcoming face-to-face meeting, your volunteers, the Moderators are very, very hot on this issue right now.

If you have ever wondered what else they do? Well, I don't envy being IB when more than 40 vocal Mods are in the audience and not happy about something. I know, i've been in front of them before when I told them i was discontinuing their rations of Twinkies and Red Bull... (just a joke).
Does the TB have similar interactions with IB as the moderators apparently do (in your capacity as TB members, not the majority of your capacity as moderators also)?
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Old Oct 12, 2007 | 10:32 am
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Originally Posted by Randy Petersen
...more than 40 moderators are meeting with them face-to-face and as you'll see from their comments representing the members, the Moderators will be quite vocal in their expectations on behalf of our members...
But, but, but... I didn't vote for THEM (or even have the opportunity to vote for them).
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Old Oct 12, 2007 | 10:37 am
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Originally Posted by kokonutz
Does the TB have similar interactions with IB as the moderators apparently do (in your capacity as TB members, not the majority of your capacity as moderators also)?
We get regular updates or heads-up on issues from JohnMcG on the same schedule as do the moderators.

And we have, and many of us use, access to him via e-mail and PM and he responds in a timely manner.

But he encourages all FT'ers to contact him personally so I think he's pretty accessible to everyone here who has a question or issue.
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Old Oct 12, 2007 | 10:40 am
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Originally Posted by Cholula
We get regular updates or heads-up on issues from JohnMcG on the same schedule as do the moderators.

And we have, and many of us use, access to him via e-mail and PM and he responds in a timely manner.

But he encourages all FT'ers to contact him personally so I think he's pretty accessible to everyone here who has a question or issue.
So from now on if I have an idea for a new forum I should just email him directly?
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Old Oct 12, 2007 | 11:38 am
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Sounds like the "Traveling While Male" forum may not be completely dead, just yet.
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Old Oct 12, 2007 | 1:37 pm
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Sounds like the "Traveling While Male" forum may not be completely dead, just yet.
Well if the process now is that McG makes the calls with some member representation from the moderators then I think I could make a pretty powerful case that a mens travel forum would fit in very, very nicely with the new ad packages that IB is selling on FT.

It's all about the throughput, baby! ^
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Old Oct 12, 2007 | 2:04 pm
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actually every member in good standing had the opportunity to vote for the makeup of members who comprise the TalkBoard. What, it is only a great place when you get what you want? A few of the candidates who i voted for didn't make the final cut either, but at least i am pleased enough that i actually got a say in the process - winners or not. Seems to me there are many, perhaps even you who did not vote for either Mr. Bush or even Mr. Clinton and who still think that living in America is great and haven't exercised their privilege to move out of the country.

Hope you don't mind, but I'll paraphrase you a little, "But, but, but... I didn't choose THEM (or even have the opportunity to extend an invitation for them)." Of course what I'm referring to is some of our members of FlyerTalk. That aside, I'm willing to continue posting and participating on FlyerTalk, even with some members present that I know I would have never invited personally. The good thing is that I've learned to appreciate them for what value they have to me in extending my knowledge of travel information. Which is what i thought FlyerTalk is all about anyway.

Originally Posted by chexfan
But, but, but... I didn't vote for THEM (or even have the opportunity to vote for them).
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Old Oct 12, 2007 | 2:06 pm
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Koko, John is going to send you back my way, so you may want to consider that before you even start your petitioning campaign...... and no, it's all about FlyerTalk, baby!

Originally Posted by kokonutz
Well if the process now is that McG makes the calls with some member representation from the moderators then I think I could make a pretty powerful case that a mens travel forum would fit in very, very nicely with the new ad packages that IB is selling on FT.

It's all about the throughput, baby! ^
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Old Oct 12, 2007 | 2:11 pm
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Seriously, if anyone is reading these exchanges, please keep in mind that both koko and chex have a very special place in my heart. They are both members that i've known for a long, long time and are an important part of why FlyerTalk is still here today. I love to engage them in these conversations from time to time and want to make sure that those reading these exchanges don't mistake our parting shots. I have no doubt we'll remain friends, though the idea of the "Men Travelers" forum has caused a rift amongst us! But I'll get over that. I just sense that they both need someone who can balance their positions on certain things, winky, winky! But really, they are quite special – in fact koko has been trying to sell me a larger RV for use in OMNI and then use the smaller RV in this forum. He's such a salesman!
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Old Oct 12, 2007 | 2:25 pm
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Originally Posted by Randy Petersen
But really, they are quite special in fact koko has been trying to sell me a larger RV for use in OMNI and then use the smaller RV in this forum. He's such a salesman!
koko, I think there's a personal attack in there, somewhere, right?
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Old Oct 12, 2007 | 2:31 pm
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I've posted my thoughts on the subject over in the Only John McG Forum....ooops, I mean Only Randy Petersen forum
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Old Oct 12, 2007 | 2:34 pm
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Don't worry, I've reported it to a Moderator!

Originally Posted by chexfan
koko, I think there's a personal attack in there, somewhere, right?
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Old Oct 12, 2007 | 2:34 pm
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Originally Posted by Randy Petersen
actually every member in good standing had the opportunity to vote for the makeup of members who comprise the TalkBoard. What, it is only a great place when you get what you want? A few of the candidates who i voted for didn't make the final cut either, but at least i am pleased enough that i actually got a say in the process - winners or not. Seems to me there are many, perhaps even you who did not vote for either Mr. Bush or even Mr. Clinton and who still think that living in America is great and haven't exercised their privilege to move out of the country.
Ahh, I htink you're missing the point. If we extend this to Congress... it's not the issue that I may not have voted for the Representative or Senator who won. It's that a Rep/Sen was put in the position of Representing the Constituency without being voted by those they are "representing".

The Reality is that when the Mods are in front of IB, they are acting in their own Self-Interest.
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Old Oct 12, 2007 | 3:09 pm
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which is exactly why i have always said that these volunteers are members first. Isn't it good to know that their self-interest is exactly the same as yours?

As for Congress, did you forget to mention there are plenty of examples where your representation may be from an appointment by others to fill out a term rather than elected as you say? What's your thoughts when a significant other is appointed to fill out the spouses term?

Originally Posted by chexfan
The Reality is that when the Mods are in front of IB, they are acting in their own Self-Interest.
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Old Oct 12, 2007 | 4:07 pm
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Originally Posted by Randy Petersen
As for Congress, did you forget to mention there are plenty of examples where your representation may be from an appointment by others to fill out a term rather than elected as you say? What's your thoughts when a significant other is appointed to fill out the spouses term?
I was wondering if you could proved the % of this occuring.
I'm sure you'd admit that this is the exception rather than the rule.

Originally Posted by Randy Petersen
which is exactly why i have always said that these volunteers are members first. Isn't it good to know that their self-interest is exactly the same as yours?
I don't know. Every single one of the Moderators complaints has been:
"I can't...,"
"I 'm not able..."
"I wish..."
"I don't see..."
"I can no longer..."

Even including Moderator-specific complaints...
As a FlyerTalk moderator, I really, really need the ability to be able to search by title.
...and really interferes with my duties as a moderator.
From anyone's perspective, it seems that they are acting out of their OWN best interest.

Not a single Moderator has uttered anything along the lines of, "I think the Community would enjoy..." -OR- has a Moderator solicited opinions of the general membership? I don't think so. THEREFORE one can only conclude that they are not representing the community, but only their personal needs.

But to bring it back on topic, has the TalkBoard, as a Board, been offered the opportunity to meet IB in person?
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