CameraGuy

The first thing that crosses my mind is that most of the people whining about the TB did NOT have the guts to run.

You can take your potshot at my vote total, at least I had the GUTS to run.

ozstamps

Sometimes I get to have a VERY big laugh at a post. This is one time.

gleff

Here is a good suggestion, and one worth passing along to Spiff.

The TB has not voted or even considered a President for Life. For the moment we're just carrying on with our existing framework while the new members get a feel for what we can do and best to work with Randy and staff. Agreed, this does not follow the formal rules that remain on the website.

Spiff's agreed-upon role is to update the TownHall area. That is the method that the TalkBoard uses (admittedly not always to full effect) to communicate with the community.

That doesn't mean Spiff is the only one to engage the community.

The 'gag rule' to which you refer says (Emphasis mine.)

I take this to mean that we ought to keep quiet on (a) things currently being discussed but (b) once the discussion or vote has concluded even those can be discussed. I don't know of any other constraints. Of course, if I've misspoken I'm sure someone will let me know!

Apologies if I have disappointed you or any other FT members to date. As I've said, if there's an issue that you feel needs some attention please let me know.

Best,
Gary

ozstamps

Thanks gleff.

So the mere fact you are clearly commenting on elections can surely be taken to mean clearly there is NO election even planned as a "current issue under discussion"?

TalkBoard member should publicly discuss either their own or other members' positions on current issues under discussion until the Board has resolved their collective wisdom on the issue of disclosure.

As I pointed there are only NINE of you on TB.

The Rules say the TALKBOARD are the ones to elect a President from among their number. Why it would take more than a few days and a few emails or thread on TB forum escapes me. Seems like a crystal clear guideline on that one:

The TB shall elect a President and a Vice President during the first two weeks of their term.

CameraGuy

It takes a big man to laugh at himself.

Pretty easy to take potshots from the peanut gallery.

ozstamps

Thank you.

Nice to see NOT every post you make on Flyertalk is 100% negative.

Patron

First of all, I applaud gleff for taking the time and effort to contribute. Based on your information I have the impression, that the TB does not work based on TB Guidelines outlined by Randy

and communicated to our community
However, it could be fruitful for the interests of the FlyerTalk if the TB put these topics on its agenda and come to a conclusion in a reasonable amount of time:

1. Redesign of FT Travel
At the beginning of this year TalkTeam moderator robb invested his time for the benefit of the community and proposes fora chances. In May, former TB member chexfan questioned, if there is a need for multiple fora in FT Travel or if TravelBuzz is a dumping ground for all inquiries. The later proposal was based on various inputs of community members, notable Sweet Willie & cactuspete. Wether or not the TB will pass or reject a motion and wether or not Randy will follow these suggestion, IMO community members should get feedback from authorities.

2. Moderation
My guess is that Randy offer fora and expect from the contributors that we use it. TalkModerators were introduced to close/move/archive topics that are inappropriate to a particular forum. IMO it is import that every forum gets an reasonable amount of traffic that everyone who asks gets an timely answer. Let me bring an example: The SkyTeam Forum is almost dead, because DL forum is dealing with these type of questions, eg:

Here We Go Again- Aeroflot and AF Get Closer. Is SkyTeam Getting Another Partner?
What exactly is SkyTeam? What does it do?
SkyTeam News: Potential AF/AZ Merger and KLM Membership in ST
KLM finally makes decision for SkyTeam
Aeroflot Joining SkyTeam?

IMO if a DL moderator goes by the rulebook, than he has to move such threads to SkyTeam. I know that this is a completely unpractical solution, because I do neither see support from the community nor from TB. Anyway, decisions of moderators are questionable, but how. Here is a reaction from our long time TB president here:
One approach to clear the situation could be to define what’s appropriate in one forum; if there is no room for a satellite, I would vote for deleting.

3. More efficient support for Randy
My experience with the WebFlyer organisation is like this: If it is important for them, they fix it immediately. Look at Technical Issues, look at quick the introduction of the new Midwest Airlines forum, look how quick Randy steps in if some of us overlooked tools like MileMarker. Bottom line: If it is important for WebFlyer, than the fix it! The good thing on that is, that Randy always made me believe that what is important for our community is important for him!

I hate to say this, but if we are critical to ourselves, we should not neglect this:
It is unfair to let play Randy the role of a fireman if he has volunteers. Needles to say, if I would search, I find at least one thread with similar TOS violation. And then I understand that there are questions about enforcement of TOS.

I wish TB all the best and promise that I do not come back on this thread.

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kappa

Why can't we ALL accept the fact that it is Randy's board. We are only guests. If he (who established the TB rules) is unhappy with the new TB, it will change. OTOH, if he is happy with the new TB, it will stay the same.

I suggest you all go back to your normal postings about FF matters. I for one do not equate FT to a political 'community' entity where I have some g0d-given right to representation and a voice in how it is run.

I am more than content to live under what I consider to be a benevolent dictatorship that makes available at no cost to me a forum that has made my air travel far more...... you supply your own word(s.

Happy Thanksgiving to all

jan_az

OK we are now at about 5 months

Any news to report??

dhammer53

DOC RECENTLY posted in one of the dining forums.

Starwood Lurker

Now, that is news.

Sincerely,

William R. Sanders
Customer Service Coordinator
Starwood Preferred Services

[email protected]


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Rudi

doc posted Feb 02, 2004 08:15 AM

http://www.flyertalk.com/dining/ftdi...ML/000132.html

West Bank Cafe

ozstamps

And in Community in December re the dinner with Randy. And he still reads FT as avidly as ever, I can assure you.

My goodness with all these recent posts, for a wild moment there I thought the TalkBoard was active and telling us what they were doing.

Oh well, back to my siesta too .......



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couscous

I miss Doc..

ozstamps

Four MONTHS now since the original post. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

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