Originally Posted by RTW1

I think mixing premium and economy deals in one forum is bound to fail.... It will create confusion about what is what, and for those like me who generally aren't interested in eco fares it will mean a lot of titles to scroll through without any use for them.

And such a forum shouldn't only be judged by the activity either. When the forum and its posts gets a lot of views it should be considered a succes. I normally don't see a reason to respond if the fare is stated clearly.

Originally Posted by kokonutz

What you seem to be suggesting is that the MRDeals forum would allow posting of both threads about a CPM fare deal and about good fares in premium cabins, each fare in its own thread in MRDeals before they expire and are moved to the MRDiscussion forum.

Originally Posted by tcook052

No what I'm proposing is to move only the 'Good Deal Premium' fares over to a repurposed MR Discussion forum and let members continue to post premium fare ultra low CPM deals suitable for MR's in MR Deals and when those expire move them to the new MR Discussion forum.

The expired premium fare threads already in this forum are fairly clearly labelled to be so any new premium fare threads could do likewise and should be visible enough.

I can appreciate the advantages of a dedicated forum but feel one more forum adds to the layers making navigation that little bit harder especially for new users or those who aren't as adept at board organization as those of us here.

Originally Posted by kokonutz

Hm. So the current AND expired premium fares would be mingled with the expired CPM threads?

I don't think I like that approach at all.

Originally Posted by RTW1

I think mixing premium and economy deals in one forum is bound to fail.... It will create confusion about what is what, and for those like me who generally aren't interested in eco fares it will mean a lot of titles to scroll through without any use for them.

Originally Posted by kokonutz

Hm. So the current AND expired premium fares would be mingled with the expired CPM threads?

I don't think it makes sense to co-mingle them.

Originally Posted by kokonutz

Since they really are not about mileage runs, should we just just create a 'premium fares' thread rather than making it a Mileage Run forum subset?

And since premium fares are not really about points and miles, should a stand-alone forum be placed under the Travel forums category rather than the Miles&Points forums category?

Originally Posted by SkiAdcock

1. Wait - I thought that's what already existed & what everyone was so upset about?


Cheers.

Originally Posted by MSPeconomist

I suspect thaat we're talking about a sub forum (of MR), not a separate forum of its own for premium fare deals. Also, to set definitions, premium would include IFC, business class, domestic FC (USA carriers), and separate premium economy cabins. We might want to include any deals on Y+/EC seat fees for carriers such as UA and DL that have special seats with more pitch and other amenities in the front of the coach cabin, although technically these are coach fares combined with seat reservation fees.

Alternatives might be to direct posts about premium cabin fare deals to the dedicated fora for the airlines offering such fares or the fora focusing on their alliances (but I suspect that the alliance fora aren't checked very often by many people on FT unless they have some specific question about an alliance). Currently I've noticed that sometimes premium cabin fare sales are posted in the airline's forum and I don't think this should be discouraged or that such threads should be moved to MR and merged into the exiting megathreads. Less commonly one sees premium fare deals being discussed in destination fora or even in a relevant DO thread located in CommunityBuzz, especially when we observe a price war for flights to some particular destination.

Originally Posted by 18sas

Counter-Proposal: (MSPEconomist) “Alternatives might be to direct posts about premium cabin fare deals to the dedicated fora for the airlines offering such fares or the fora focusing on their alliances.”
My response: While I understand the thinking, this would be detrimental to discussing, searching and finding premium fares. Typically someone will find a fare on a particular airline and post it, others will then jump in trying different airlines and origin/destination points, since often deals are loaded for many routes and airlines often match fares. The mega-thread is beneficial for the cross-germination of ideas and for the effective crowdsourcing of deal searching. I think it will be more effective in the sub-forum, but getting rid of the mega-thread to disperse the conversation into various other fora would be ultimately counter-productive.

Originally Posted by MSPeconomist

Since when did my comment concerning alternative forms of organization that we could consider for completeness become a "Counter-Proposal"? If you read the rest of the paragraph--or indeed just the rest of my same sentence--containing the words you quote, you'll notice that I give reasons to dismiss these alternatives. In no way was I advocating what you call my "Counter-Proposal."

Originally Posted by kokonutz

Since they really are not about mileage runs, should we just just create a 'premium fares' thread rather than making it a Mileage Run forum subset?

And since premium fares are not really about points and miles, should a stand-alone forum be placed under the Travel forums category rather than the Miles&Points forums category?

Originally Posted by kokonutz

Also including any deals on Y+/EC seat fees for carriers such as UA and DL that have special seats with more pitch and other amenities in the front of the coach cabin, although technically these are coach fares combined with seat reservation fees.

Originally Posted by RTW1

I think mixing premium and economy deals in one forum is bound to fail

Originally Posted by kokonutz

There should at least be a curtain between eco and premium fares...if not a velvet rope!