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rwoman Dec 27, 2014 4:46 pm


Originally Posted by GUWonder (Post 24059990)
Quite interesting how much the poll voting suddenly swung today from one category to another. The product of a lobbying effort having come to fruition or of more people being in the office today and a related shift in voting patterns? Quite the large swing in one fell swoop.


Originally Posted by ozstamps (Post 24060034)
"Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap"

Someone should write a song about it.

Sad to see FT gets to this level on a non issue vote.

I think this thread in the BA forum has increased traffic:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...our-forum.html

GUWonder Dec 27, 2014 4:48 pm


Originally Posted by camachinist (Post 24058550)
Functionally, yes. In vB, it looks like this on the 'create poll' page (I just set up a test poll on our forum to confirm):

........

Generally, though, polls I've participated in are always anonymous and that's how we set them up on the forums I moderate, unless for some reason management requests other. The site owner or the development team (anyone with root access to the database) can read the raw results if they so choose, regardless.

Thanks.

So who voted is ultimately not really anonymous and it is just "secret" to the extent that anyone with control over root access to the database wishes it to be? Same goes for how such persons voted? Seems like déjà vu.

GUWonder Dec 27, 2014 4:56 pm


Originally Posted by rwoman (Post 24060147)
I think this thread in the BA forum has increased traffic:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...our-forum.html

That thread, which I've been following, has been around for days, and yet only today the voting pattern changed in a very lop-sided way.

Going from a c. 3-10% difference over many days and then having a 75+% difference in the opposite direction for votes within the past 24 hours, on a rather large number of votes cast today? That thread explains some increased traffic, but the very dramatic voting shift? Maybe weekend voters are different than holiday voters, and this is the post-holiday hangover effect? ;)

Boss Tweed and Tammany Hall hand out a bunch of Christmas hams and turkeys on Boxing Day, as a reward for support? But that was yesterday.:D

rwoman Dec 27, 2014 5:06 pm


Originally Posted by GUWonder (Post 24060184)
That thread, which I've been following, has been around for days, and yet only today the voting pattern changed in a very lop-sided way.

Going from a c. 3-10% difference over many days and then having a 75+% difference in the opposite direction for votes within the past 24 hours, on a rather large number of votes cast today? That thread explains some increased traffic, but the very dramatic voting shift? Maybe weekend voters are different than holiday voters, and this is the post-holiday hangover effect? ;)

Boss Tweed and Tammany Hall hand out a bunch of Christmas hams and turkeys on Boxing Day, as a reward for support? But that was yesterday.:D

I know I've only spent a relatively small amount of time on FT between travel, Christmas, etc.

I noticed the jump as well today. Perhaps others are spending more time on FT again or those who feel passionately about this are PM'ing others to cast their poll vote?

GUWonder Dec 27, 2014 5:19 pm


Originally Posted by rwoman (Post 24060225)
I know I've only spent a relatively small amount of time on FT between travel, Christmas, etc.

I noticed the jump as well today. Perhaps others are spending more time on FT again or those who feel passionately about this are PM'ing others to cast their poll vote?

There was a lobbying effort -- or two or three -- which perhaps could have come to fruition today after the Hannukah and Christmas holiday periods ended. It's just the votes are rather extremely different and this period of time isn't usually amongst the most active FT periods . Either way, given how cliquish this place is, can't say I'm surprised that such a huge change in voting pattern took place within this day.

JonNYC Dec 27, 2014 5:34 pm

Vote going how you wish it to? "Democracy in action! ^"

Vote turns the other way? "Must be rigged!! :mad: "

Himeno Dec 27, 2014 6:00 pm

If you want this pointless thing, go here.
www.facebook.com.

It is not needed here.

Himeno Dec 27, 2014 6:12 pm


Originally Posted by T8191 (Post 24058801)
I found not clicking buttons quite easy to do ... It's not mandatory ;)

Not clicking on something is not the point.
I do not want to see "x has liked this post" text boxes randomly through threads.
I do not want to see anything in messages or profiles saying "you have x likes".

If such a unnecessary farce is added to FT, I want the option to not have to see it anywhere.

GUWonder Dec 27, 2014 6:13 pm

How is that "Like/helpful" thing working out for Milepoint.com?


Originally Posted by JonNYC (Post 24060302)
Vote going how you wish it to? "Democracy in action! ^"

Vote turns the other way? "Must be rigged!! :mad: "

Not necessarily. Lobbying efforts (on, off or cycled) -- when it comes to popularity contests -- come with changed results too.

Sometimes a rigged vote is a "vote going how you wish it to"; and sometimes a rigged vote is not.

Sometimes a vote defeat is tactically or strategically desirable -- rigged vote or not.

Canarsie Dec 27, 2014 7:21 pm


Originally Posted by GUWonder (Post 24060405)
How is that "Like/helpful" thing working out for Milepoint.com?

Well, “likes” contribute towards elite level status over at Milepoint, where you get gifts with each level — such as no advertising to interfere with your experience once you reach Gold elite level status — whereas there is no elite level status here at FlyerTalk.

In other words: except for the possibility of cliquish behavior, there is no incentive to give or receive “likes” on FlyerTalk other than as a commentary on content posted.

As for any lobbying efforts, I know nothing about them. Speaking for myself, the poll is but one factor to contribute to my decision if and when there is a vote to be cast by me on whether or not FlyerTalk should have a “like” function; and the comments — which I am reading — are another factor...

Originally Posted by GUWonder (Post 24060184)
Boss Tweed and Tammany Hall hand out a bunch of Christmas hams and turkeys on Boxing Day, as a reward for support? But that was yesterday.:D

You know your New York City politics from the nineteenth century...

kipper Dec 27, 2014 7:46 pm


Originally Posted by GUWonder (Post 24060184)
That thread, which I've been following, has been around for days, and yet only today the voting pattern changed in a very lop-sided way.

Going from a c. 3-10% difference over many days and then having a 75+% difference in the opposite direction for votes within the past 24 hours, on a rather large number of votes cast today? That thread explains some increased traffic, but the very dramatic voting shift? Maybe weekend voters are different than holiday voters, and this is the post-holiday hangover effect? ;)

Boss Tweed and Tammany Hall hand out a bunch of Christmas hams and turkeys on Boxing Day, as a reward for support? But that was yesterday.:D

I noticed that as well, and questioned the large swing.

goalie Dec 27, 2014 11:47 pm


Originally Posted by GUWonder (Post 24059990)
Quite interesting how much the poll voting suddenly swung today from one category to another. The product of a lobbying effort having come to fruition or of more people being in the office today and a related shift in voting patterns? Quite the large swing in one fell swoop.

Or maybe it is just a whole bunch of "brand new members" ;)

T8191 Dec 28, 2014 3:13 am


Originally Posted by GUWonder (Post 24060184)
That thread, which I've been following, has been around for days, and yet only today the voting pattern changed in a very lop-sided way.

Going from a c. 3-10% difference over many days and then having a 75+% difference in the opposite direction for votes within the past 24 hours, on a rather large number of votes cast today? That thread explains some increased traffic, but the very dramatic voting shift? Maybe weekend voters are different than holiday voters, and this is the post-holiday hangover effect? ;)

As a BA Board resident, and daily reader of same, it did seem to me that things were a little quieter than usual over the last few days. Was there something else going on that I missed? :)

BTW, I have not received any lobbying PMs. A one of the more vocal [and occasionally constructive] BA denizens, I would have thought I would have been a prime target. Just saying.

intuition Dec 28, 2014 4:32 am


Originally Posted by Canarsie (Post 24060612)
Well, “likes” contribute towards elite level status over at Milepoint, where you get gifts with each level — such as no advertising to interfere with your experience once you reach Gold elite level status — whereas there is no elite level status here at FlyerTalk.

In other words: except for the possibility of cliquish behavior, there is no incentive to give or receive “likes” on FlyerTalk other than as a commentary on content posted.

...

Is it a fact that there will be no incentive on FT?

I asked earlier in this thread about the plan what to do with the data collected, ie would 'likes'/'helpful' be used for anything later on. Like top lists, status and so on, but I didn't really get an answer.

GUWonder Dec 28, 2014 4:47 am


Originally Posted by T8191 (Post 24061748)
As a BA Board resident, and daily reader of same, it did seem to me that things were a little quieter than usual over the last few days. Was there something else going on that I missed? :)

BTW, I have not received any lobbying PMs. A one of the more vocal [and occasionally constructive] BA denizens, I would have thought I would have been a prime target. Just saying.

I would have thought you and I would have been anything but a prime target given our history of activity on this issue. And PMs are not the only way we communicate on and off FT. ;) Time and resources spent on other things to drive the vote would probably be better off invested on others, unless it was to try to convince us to get others whom we know are likely or certainly going to vote in the "preferred" way -- even if those others are lurkers-turned-new-members-turned-voters or double digit or less post count voters -- to vote. It's an open, "secret" vote for all who register regardless of FT member registration date, right?

Just saying.


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