Intermediate titles
#16
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How would anyone know that I'm an ambassador if I don't have the title? My role is to help newbies and make them feel welcome/comfortable.
I get quite a few PMs from newbies with questions simply because of that title. I have to coax them to post publicly. Sometimes they feel uncomfortable posting certain things publicly.
We may as well get rid of the program if people don't know who we are.
I get quite a few PMs from newbies with questions simply because of that title. I have to coax them to post publicly. Sometimes they feel uncomfortable posting certain things publicly.
We may as well get rid of the program if people don't know who we are.
When I visit a forum I'm not familiar with, the assigned titles help to give me a lay of the land. And sometimes I'll PM an ambassador or Mod to make sure I'm posting in the correct place first.
The ideal would be to have a method to rate the quality of the posts. I've seen a couple of users with just a couple hundred posts, yet each of those posts is extremely well worth a read.
#17
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Could be any group, mods group, senior mods, TB, CD, whatever really. Making it some honorary title.
You picked the level and title for a reason
You picked the level and title for a reason
#18
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#19
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Although there is some merit in Dovster's proposal, with nearly 15 years of posting I'm not sure it's totally reflective of reality.
But I do agree that if we are going to change titles, I'd be for a wholesale overhaul rather than a tweek.
I personally think 'Evangelist' is a stupid title.
Since we are a FF board, I never understood why we didn't do the precious metals/gems approach that our favorite businesses do.
A rough draft of the sort of overhaul that I think makes sense:
0-100 Newbie
100-1000 Bronze Elite FlyerTalker
1000-10,1000 Silver Elite FlyerTalker
10,000-20,000 Gold Elite FlyerTalker
20,000-30,000 Platinum Elite FlyerTalker
30,000-50,000 Diamond Super-Elite FlyerTalker
>50,000 Super-Elite FlyerTalker for Life
But I do agree that if we are going to change titles, I'd be for a wholesale overhaul rather than a tweek.
I personally think 'Evangelist' is a stupid title.
Since we are a FF board, I never understood why we didn't do the precious metals/gems approach that our favorite businesses do.
A rough draft of the sort of overhaul that I think makes sense:
0-100 Newbie
100-1000 Bronze Elite FlyerTalker
1000-10,1000 Silver Elite FlyerTalker
10,000-20,000 Gold Elite FlyerTalker
20,000-30,000 Platinum Elite FlyerTalker
30,000-50,000 Diamond Super-Elite FlyerTalker
>50,000 Super-Elite FlyerTalker for Life
#20
Moderator: Lufthansa Miles & More, India based airlines, India, External Miles & Points Resources
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+1 on the idea of removing the post count titles. If you are TB, CD, mod, admin or ambassador, you have the title, everyone else is 'just' a member. I would even eliminate the post count showing under the member name. It has no true value whatsoever. If anyone sees value in it, they can look it up in the member's profile.
#21
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+1 on the idea of removing the post count titles. If you are TB, CD, mod, admin or ambassador, you have the title, everyone else is 'just' a member. I would even eliminate the post count showing under the member name. It has no true value whatsoever. If anyone sees value in it, they can look it up in the member's profile.
I would have no objection to the "Ambassador" title being used whenever that person is posting in the particular forum he or she is representing.
#22
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I dunno about eliminating all titles. Or all titles except mods/TB/Ambassadors.
It's like post count: people SAY they dont care about it. But they do. They really, really do.
So let's give the posters what they want. ^
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I find it ironic that some of the people here that advocate the elimination of non appointed and non elected titles themselves have appointed and elected titles.
#25
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#26
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How would anyone know that I'm an ambassador if I don't have the title? My role is to help newbies and make them feel welcome/comfortable.
I get quite a few PMs from newbies with questions simply because of that title. I have to coax them to post publicly. Sometimes they feel uncomfortable posting certain things publicly.
We may as well get rid of the program if people don't know who we are.
I get quite a few PMs from newbies with questions simply because of that title. I have to coax them to post publicly. Sometimes they feel uncomfortable posting certain things publicly.
We may as well get rid of the program if people don't know who we are.
#27
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Speaking as a regular FTer, I don't have a problem w/ the Evangalist title under my handle disappearing. I don't care about titles. FWIW - I rarely look at the info under anyone's handle. I note the handle & make any judgment of valuable posts based on the content they post. If they have 2 posts but they're good, then they get my respect. If they have 30,000 & their posts suck, they don't. Shrug.
I'd vote for eliminating titles, but as some of the other TB members have noted it is important to some, just as post counts are important to some, so I don't think there'd be enough support to eliminate them.
So, if there's a need for intermediate titles I'm ok with them, if we can figure out something that works for everyone.
Cheers.
#28
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As Mary2e noted, there's a reason for the official titles to be displayed. It helps FTers identify ambassadors, moderators, company reps, TB members, so if they need to contact them & don't know who they are it gives them the heads up.
Speaking as a regular FTer, I don't have a problem w/ the Evangalist title under my handle disappearing. I don't care about titles. FWIW - I rarely look at the info under anyone's handle. I note the handle & make any judgment of valuable posts based on the content they post. If they have 2 posts but they're good, then they get my respect. If they have 30,000 & their posts suck, they don't. Shrug.
I'd vote for eliminating titles, but as some of the other TB members have noted it is important to some, just as post counts are important to some, so I don't think there'd be enough support to eliminate them.
So, if there's a need for intermediate titles I'm ok with them, if we can figure out something that works for everyone.
Cheers.
Speaking as a regular FTer, I don't have a problem w/ the Evangalist title under my handle disappearing. I don't care about titles. FWIW - I rarely look at the info under anyone's handle. I note the handle & make any judgment of valuable posts based on the content they post. If they have 2 posts but they're good, then they get my respect. If they have 30,000 & their posts suck, they don't. Shrug.
I'd vote for eliminating titles, but as some of the other TB members have noted it is important to some, just as post counts are important to some, so I don't think there'd be enough support to eliminate them.
So, if there's a need for intermediate titles I'm ok with them, if we can figure out something that works for everyone.
Cheers.
#29
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#30
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