Proposal/request for comment: codifying policy for handle changes
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Proposal/request for comment: codifying policy for handle changes
I and a few other TalkBoard members have hammered out a policy/procedure document that codifies what is basically the current, unpublished practice for member handle change requests as well as provides some additional tips and guidance to new members selecting a handle.
I am putting it here for public comment before formally proposing it as a motion for the TalkBoard to vote on. Please feel free to contribute your feedback on the idea.
I am putting it here for public comment before formally proposing it as a motion for the TalkBoard to vote on. Please feel free to contribute your feedback on the idea.
The TalkBoard recommends that the following addition be made to the FlyerTalk Rules:
Handles
New members should carefully choose the name they pick to represent themselves to the community. That name, referred to as the member's "handle," will serve as each member's primary identity to others throughout the forums and even into real-life meetings with other community members. New members are cautioned to consider choosing handles that do not personally identify them and that will also be relevant as the member progresses through various stages of life.
Recognizing that not all new members are aware of how integrated their handles will become with their online personalities and how long the handles will carry with them, the FlyerTalk Community Director or his or her designees will allow a member to request a change to his or her handle subject to the following restrictions:
Requests to change handles must be submitted to the FlyerTalk administration via the Contact Us link.
Handles
New members should carefully choose the name they pick to represent themselves to the community. That name, referred to as the member's "handle," will serve as each member's primary identity to others throughout the forums and even into real-life meetings with other community members. New members are cautioned to consider choosing handles that do not personally identify them and that will also be relevant as the member progresses through various stages of life.
Recognizing that not all new members are aware of how integrated their handles will become with their online personalities and how long the handles will carry with them, the FlyerTalk Community Director or his or her designees will allow a member to request a change to his or her handle subject to the following restrictions:
- No more than one change can be requested per member.
- Requests must not be frivolous. The FlyerTalk administration reserves the right to deny any name change deemed to not be serious. Valid reasons include providing anonymity by changing from a derivative of the user's name, correcting a spelling error, or updating a handle that is out-of-date or unrepresentative of the member.
- To avoid the risk of false impersonation, requests to change a handle to include a personal name will not be approved.
- Once a handle change has been approved, the member must display his or her previous handle in the member's signature for a period of 30 (thirty) days.
- Handle changes are considered to be a privilege and may be delayed or denied for any reason. The member's disciplinary record, if any, may be considered in the course of approving a handle change.
Requests to change handles must be submitted to the FlyerTalk administration via the Contact Us link.
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The main reason I do not like this proposal is due to this portion of the proposal:
"updating a handle that is out-of-date or unrepresentative of the member."
I think that whatever username has been selected by a member at signup is how they have been known on FlyerTalk and that a member shouldn't be allowed to change handles just because they've changed positions in life.
For example, if I signed on as "CollegeProfessor" and then switched professions and became a bartender, that I should be allowed to change to "Bartender". Even though the CollegeProfessor handle that I originally signed on with may not have anything to do my current life, that's how I've been become to be known as on FlyerTalk.
If someone really wants it badly enough to change their handles, IMHO, they can petition the Community Director on their own - I don't think that part of the rule needs to be (or should be) formalized.
If that part of the proposal were removed, I'd be happy to vote for it - but that's enough of a point, IMHO, to not vote for it.
"updating a handle that is out-of-date or unrepresentative of the member."
I think that whatever username has been selected by a member at signup is how they have been known on FlyerTalk and that a member shouldn't be allowed to change handles just because they've changed positions in life.
For example, if I signed on as "CollegeProfessor" and then switched professions and became a bartender, that I should be allowed to change to "Bartender". Even though the CollegeProfessor handle that I originally signed on with may not have anything to do my current life, that's how I've been become to be known as on FlyerTalk.
If someone really wants it badly enough to change their handles, IMHO, they can petition the Community Director on their own - I don't think that part of the rule needs to be (or should be) formalized.
If that part of the proposal were removed, I'd be happy to vote for it - but that's enough of a point, IMHO, to not vote for it.
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For example, if I signed on as "CollegeProfessor" and then switched professions and became a bartender, that I should be allowed to change to "Bartender". Even though the CollegeProfessor handle that I originally signed on with may not have anything to do my current life, that's how I've been become to be known as on FlyerTalk.
What if you had joined FlyerTalk while working your way through college as a bartender and registered with the handle of "Bartender," then (years later) eventually accepting a post as a professor? On FlyerTalk, you may be known as Bartender, but you might be less-than-thrilled about your current employer finding out that you maintain an identity as "Bartender" (especially if you haven't yet achieved tenure
).Allowing one to rid himself or herself of a title connoting youth, inexperience, or participation in what might be viewed by others as a "lower" level of employment can only serve to increase participation in the FlyerTalk community, thus benefiting the community.
At this point, too, most people would realize and think twice before choosing another handle that ties them to a specific profession, knowing that a similar change may happen in the future. This proposal does not advocate that someone be able to change their handle every time they change jobs; the single change restriction takes care of that concern.
Rather, it encourages someone who may initially choose a handle that may encourage others to take them less seriously (such as a handle indicating they're still in school when they've long since graduated, leading to people to assume things such as a limited budget or lack of flexibility with travel dates when such things may no longer be true) to choose a handle with a more permanent attachment to the person.
For example, someone who signs up with "PoorCheapoHighSchoolTraveler" may choose a name next time such as "PhotographyLover" after they've graduated and achieved success in life, someone who signs up with "SLC DL Traveler" may change to "TechnoGeek" after they've moved away from SLC and quit flying DL, and someone who signs up with "IAmALawyer" may change to "LiverAndOnions" if they want to quit being bombarded by PMs from people wanting legal advice.
If we do not allow them to overcome the problems caused by their initial handle choices, we end up simply driving them away, which is a detriment to the FlyerTalk community.
), his handle is enough a part of his identity and the FlyerTalk community that he would never desire to change it.If someone really wants it badly enough to change their handles, IMHO, they can petition the Community Director on their own - I don't think that part of the rule needs to be (or should be) formalized.
If that part of the proposal were removed, I'd be happy to vote for it - but that's enough of a point, IMHO, to not vote for it.
If that part of the proposal were removed, I'd be happy to vote for it - but that's enough of a point, IMHO, to not vote for it.
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Sorry, jackal - but that doesn't change my viewpoint. The person themselves may no longer personally identify with their handle - but everyone else on FlyerTalk probably does.
Personally, I don't like the idea of changing one's handle for that reason.
Spelling and/or punctuation errors, or to remove your full name if that's what you signed up with, fine - but to adjust a handle just because it's not representative of you anymore, not IMHO...
Personally, I don't like the idea of changing one's handle for that reason.
Spelling and/or punctuation errors, or to remove your full name if that's what you signed up with, fine - but to adjust a handle just because it's not representative of you anymore, not IMHO...
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Sorry, jackal - but that doesn't change my viewpoint. The person themselves may no longer personally identify with their handle - but everyone else on FlyerTalk probably does.
Personally, I don't like the idea of changing one's handle for that reason.
Spelling and/or punctuation errors, or to remove your full name if that's what you signed up with, fine - but to adjust a handle just because it's not representative of you anymore, not IMHO...
Personally, I don't like the idea of changing one's handle for that reason.
Spelling and/or punctuation errors, or to remove your full name if that's what you signed up with, fine - but to adjust a handle just because it's not representative of you anymore, not IMHO...
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This is my opinion. There are 7 other TB members who have yet to state theirs.
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I am not sure I understand #3. Why can't a member have a personal name in their handle? They certainly can when they sign up... why not at this time? I see no reason to restrict a handle in any way from what they could choose originally.
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In the first post, you indicate that this will provide tips and guidance to new members... how will this happen?
Currently, there is no detail on handle creation on the register screen... what will be added to provide the guidance?
Currently, there is no detail on handle creation on the register screen... what will be added to provide the guidance?
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My two hockey pucks are very simply based on this
And with that, imho, the only "exception" to changing a handle should be for correcting a spelling error as anything else is based on the previously quoted section. Yes it sounds harsh but to me it's a trivial matter for F/t staff to deal with as I'm sure there are other more important things they have to deal with. We're all big kids and have to live with decisions me make throughout all our lives (and for inquiring minds, I was almost known to you as "Slapshot" as that was the name of one of my cats at the time but i decided to change it at the last minute)
New members are cautioned to consider choosing handles that do not personally identify them and that will also be relevant as the member progresses through various stages of life.
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To avoid the risk of false impersonation...
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bottom line it [can be] allowed once. never a bad idea to formalize and publish policies.
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Last I checked, IB was working on a way to display the full FlyerTalk Rules/Terms of Service/Guidelines/Whatever They're Officially Called during the registration process. (Currently, a more standard boilerplate vBulletin legal disclaimer is displayed.)
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Would it be possible to include a line under a new name - Along the lines of
CollegeProfessor
previously known as Bartender
On the line where the title(s) goes, perhaps for 12 months after the change.
CollegeProfessor
previously known as Bartender
On the line where the title(s) goes, perhaps for 12 months after the change.
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I don't see any reason for the Talk Board to even be involved with this topic. The Community Director can allow handle changes as she sees fit.
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The current practice as formulated (but never publicly published) by Randy is to require that for two weeks; the consensus I sensed among the TalkBoard members when I first brought this up was that extending the requirement to 30 days was sufficient.
12 months may be excessive for those who need to change their handles to protect their privacy (i.e. remove their personally-identifiable name), but I would be willing to consider that change.


