777-300 vs. A330-300
Jan 3, 2019, 3:26 am
#18
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Jan 3, 2019, 4:49 am
#19
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I would deal with ORD transit to take the 777 F over A330 F, but not J.
But I am also a US citizen with global entry, so I don’t know if that’s makes a difference.
I did ZRH-ORD-SFO in Swiss F/UA J in 2017. It was fine.
But I am also a US citizen with global entry, so I don’t know if that’s makes a difference.
I did ZRH-ORD-SFO in Swiss F/UA J in 2017. It was fine.
Jan 3, 2019, 6:33 am
#20
Join Date: Dec 2013
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Thanks for the info! I go to the US 20 times a year, so transit is not a big deal. Booking on points, so F isn't an option on LX unfortunately.
I think I will stick with the YUL transfer as coming into YTZ is also a lot more convenient! Thanks!
I think I will stick with the YUL transfer as coming into YTZ is also a lot more convenient! Thanks!
Jan 3, 2019, 9:04 am
#21
Join Date: Oct 2005
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i have flown SWISS TATL flights during last 3 years more than 40 times on both birds...
if travel class is J go for 777 without any doubt...of course if you can get the throne... that is the greatest privacy... in my opinion the best LH group product ! (and on the top 3 *A products !)
if travel class is J go for 777 without any doubt...of course if you can get the throne... that is the greatest privacy... in my opinion the best LH group product ! (and on the top 3 *A products !)
Jan 3, 2019, 10:23 am
#22
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: Germany
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i have flown SWISS TATL flights during last 3 years more than 40 times on both birds...
if travel class is J go for 777 without any doubt...of course if you can get the throne... that is the greatest privacy... in my opinion the best LH group product ! (and on the top 3 *A products !)
if travel class is J go for 777 without any doubt...of course if you can get the throne... that is the greatest privacy... in my opinion the best LH group product ! (and on the top 3 *A products !)
Jan 3, 2019, 10:37 am
#23
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Totally agree. I was just in 4A on the B777 (the “super-throne”) and was not impressed, in no way better than thrones on the A330.
Jan 3, 2019, 10:49 am
#24
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Location: Geneva
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In my opinion, neither in F nor in C are there enough differences between A333 and B77W that justify a detour, transfer or CBP visit.
Yes, the B77W is newer and its F has the sliding door, a second toilet and bigger IFE monitor, but the A333 F seat is still excellent and soft product is usually great in both. And the A333 is noticeably quieter, even in the front. More noticeable even in C, where the A333 alsohas the advantage for solo travelers of having more single seats than the B77W.
Haven’t flown either in Y but I would imagine the 10 abreast B77W should be avoided at all cost.
Yes, the B77W is newer and its F has the sliding door, a second toilet and bigger IFE monitor, but the A333 F seat is still excellent and soft product is usually great in both. And the A333 is noticeably quieter, even in the front. More noticeable even in C, where the A333 alsohas the advantage for solo travelers of having more single seats than the B77W.
Haven’t flown either in Y but I would imagine the 10 abreast B77W should be avoided at all cost.
Jan 4, 2019, 1:17 am
#25
Join Date: Sep 2016
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With respect to the noise, I did not perceive any difference in both planes. Both are terribly noisy compared to the newer 380, 787 etc. Re the LX 777, I am wondering if some of the noise could be reduced by simply adjusting the ventilation settings. The ventilation seems unecessarily high and noisy.
Jan 4, 2019, 3:44 am
#27
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With all due respect, but why do you seem to always think that what is best for you is automatically best for everybody? I hate earplugs, but wouldn't recommend that nobody should ever wear them, based on my preference ...
Jan 4, 2019, 3:52 am
#28
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Feel free to let me know if my initial assumption, that you do not want to harm yourself, is wrong. I don't feel the need to apologize for making it because I guess I don't think it's unreasonable to make that assumption. But I've been surprised in the past.
For what it's worth, I hate ear plugs too. I use IEMs. My partner uses noise-cancelling, over the ear headphones. I don't like those because they're too bulky to sleep in. Obviously, many different options here depending on what your preferences are.
Jan 4, 2019, 6:38 am
#29
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Really? Towards the pointy end and on a decent plane, i.e. not on a 777, I never had the impression that it is so loud it would damage my hearing.
FAs work on planes all the time and do not wear protection. Where are the unions when you need them.
FAs work on planes all the time and do not wear protection. Where are the unions when you need them.
Jan 4, 2019, 6:52 am
#30
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I would just Google it for the science. But the gist of it is yes, airplane noise is loud and damaging no matter where you are on the plane and no matter the plane. It’s actually a bit low key and a slow burn, because you don’t realize it. But it is.