Hotels that do not participate in SPG
May 29, 2008, 11:27 am
#31
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All properties respect the Royal Ambassador privileges (early check in at 8.00 am, late check out at 4.00), and upgrade privileges (upgrade to suite; except for InterContinental COEX Seoul).
But properties offer different additional advantages (free access to club lounge, if any).
May 29, 2008, 11:36 am
#32
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Right -- all InterContinental Hotels Group properties participate in Priority Club, and all InterContinental properties participate in Ambassador/Royal Ambassador. I have never seen any exceptions.
Of course, compliance varies (and, in my opinion, the rules are ambiguous in some cases). As has been discussed on the IC forum countless times, club access at InterContinentals is not a stated benefit of Priority Club Platinum or Royal Ambassador (nor Ambassador, of course). Some hotels graciously give this benefit, but that's not the same as participating in the program or not. Of course all of the chains, including SPG, have examples of inconsistent application of the rules among participating properties!
Of course, compliance varies (and, in my opinion, the rules are ambiguous in some cases). As has been discussed on the IC forum countless times, club access at InterContinentals is not a stated benefit of Priority Club Platinum or Royal Ambassador (nor Ambassador, of course). Some hotels graciously give this benefit, but that's not the same as participating in the program or not. Of course all of the chains, including SPG, have examples of inconsistent application of the rules among participating properties!
May 31, 2008, 11:12 am
#33
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Sometimes it pays off to just contact a hotel directly. I asked the Le Meridien Al Aqah in UAE about why they do not participate in SPG and whether they plan to. Here's what they had to say...
I'm not sure what it means to "acknowledge" SPG members. I did not ask whether that means that they give elite SPG members any perks such as preferred rooms or suites.
We are now part of the Starwood Hotels however, we are not participating yet on their programs. We are still in the process of enrolling & getting all the approvals.
As for the meantime, we acknowledge our guests who are SPG members, only that we can not give out points as of the moment.
As for the meantime, we acknowledge our guests who are SPG members, only that we can not give out points as of the moment.
Jul 1, 2008, 7:09 am
#34
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So why don't they participate...
Mar 2, 2009, 4:11 am
#35
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Hotels which don't participate in SPG but are listed at SPG.com
Planning a trip to Dubai over Christmas and may stay at one of the non-participating hotels. I realise that I won't get points nor recognition of my Platinum status but given the hotels are listed and can be booked via spg.com, would Starwood recognise the booking as part of stays required to reach Platinum again?
Maybe one for William....
Maybe one for William....
Mar 2, 2009, 5:14 am
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Planning a trip to Dubai over Christmas and may stay at one of the non-participating hotels. I realise that I won't get points nor recognition of my Platinum status but given the hotels are listed and can be booked via spg.com, would Starwood recognise the booking as part of stays required to reach Platinum again?
Maybe one for William....
Maybe one for William....
Hotels that do not participate in SPG
Mar 2, 2009, 10:13 am
#37
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Planning a trip to Dubai over Christmas and may stay at one of the non-participating hotels. I realise that I won't get points nor recognition of my Platinum status but given the hotels are listed and can be booked via spg.com, would Starwood recognise the booking as part of stays required to reach Platinum again?
Maybe one for William....
Maybe one for William....
Best regards,
William R. Sanders
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Starwood Hotels & Resorts Worldwide
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Mar 2, 2009, 11:33 am
#38
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I still don't quite get this. Why those properties should be listed at SPG.com if they don't participate in SPG? 
To me, they can be listed at Starwood.com or Sheraton.com if it's a Sheraton but it simply creates confusion to list it in SPG.com and says it's non-participating.
To me, they can be listed at Starwood.com or Sheraton.com if it's a Sheraton but it simply creates confusion to list it in SPG.com and says it's non-participating.
Mar 2, 2009, 12:09 pm
#39
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I still don't quite get this. Why those properties should be listed at SPG.com if they don't participate in SPG? To me, they can be listed at Starwood.com or Sheraton.com if it's a Sheraton but it simply creates confusion to list it in SPG.com and says it's non-participating.
To me, they can be listed at Starwood.com or Sheraton.com if it's a Sheraton but it simply creates confusion to list it in SPG.com and says it's non-participating.These non-participating properties are more clearly marked than ever before, so there really should not be any confusion regarding their status. If you believe otherwise, then I guess we will just have to agree to disagree.
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William R. Sanders
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Starwood Hotels & Resorts Worldwide
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Mar 2, 2009, 9:05 pm
#40
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For my own reasons I have complied a list of "special" SPG properties and divided them into three categories:
Starwood Vacation Ownership Hotel, only limited participation in SPG (points/awards)
Other Limited Participation in SPG Hotel
Hotel Not Participating in SPG
Hopefuly others will find it useful as well
Starwood Vacation Ownership Hotel, only limited participation in SPG (points/awards)
Code:
Hotel Country State City Collection Phoenician Residences, Luxury Collection Residence Club USA Arizona Scottsdale Luxury Collection Sheraton Desert Oasis USA Arizona Scottsdale Sheraton The Westin Kierland Villas USA Arizona Scottsdale Westin The Westin Mission Hills Resort & Villas USA California Rancho Mirage Westin St. Regis Residence Club, Aspen USA Colorado Aspen St. Regis Sheraton Mountain Vista USA Colorado Avon Sheraton Sheraton Steamboat Resort Villas USA Colorado Steamboat Springs Sheraton Sheraton Vistana Resort, Lake Buena Vista USA Florida Orlando Sheraton Sheraton Vistana Villages, International Drive USA Florida Orlando Sheraton Sheraton PGA Vacation Resort, Port St. Lucie, Florida USA Florida Port St. Lucie Sheraton Sheraton Broadway Plantation USA South Carolina Myrtle Beach Sheraton The Westin Lagunamar Ocean Resort Mexico Quintana Roo Cancun Westin The Westin CampoReal Residences Portugal Turcifal Westin
Code:
Hotel Country State City Collection Le Royal Méridien National Russia Moscow Le Méridien
Code:
Hotel Country State City Collection Le Méridien Moscow Country Club Russia Moscow Le Méridien The Lanesborough, a St. Regis Hotel UK London St. Regis Sheraton Karachi Hotel & Towers Pakistan Karachi Sheraton Grosvenor House West Marina Beach by Le Méridien UAE Dubai Le Méridien Le Méridien Dubai UAE Dubai Le Méridien Le Méridien Fairway UAE Dubai Le Méridien Le Méridien Mina Seyahi Beach Resort & Marina UAE Dubai Le Méridien Le Royal Méridien Beach Resort & Spa UAE Dubai Le Méridien Residence Deira by Le Méridien UAE Dubai Le Méridien The Westin Dubai Mina Seyahi Beach Resort & Marina UAE Dubai Westin Le Méridien Al Aqah Beach Resort UAE Fujairah Le Méridien
Mar 3, 2009, 3:04 am
#41
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...The limited-participation and non-participating properties are also called out in the SPG Terms & Conditions:
https://www.starwoodhotels.com/prefe...spg_terms.html
The T&Cs are worth looking at as they also contain a wealth of other useful info on the program.
https://www.starwoodhotels.com/prefe...spg_terms.html
The T&Cs are worth looking at as they also contain a wealth of other useful info on the program.