Is this RTW allowed?
Mar 15, 2005 | 8:29 am
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Is this RTW allowed?
Am trying to plan a RTW going to SCL and the new 345 flights on SQ. The itinerary could be: MAD-SCL-YYZ-EWR-SIN-MAD
Total: 28939 mi (according to Great Circle Mapper)
If EWR-SIN is classified as a Trans-Pacific, then it should be OK, no? Thanks.
Total: 28939 mi (according to Great Circle Mapper)
If EWR-SIN is classified as a Trans-Pacific, then it should be OK, no? Thanks.
Mar 15, 2005 | 9:09 am
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Originally Posted by madman
Am trying to plan a RTW going to SCL and the new 345 flights on SQ. The itinerary could be: MAD-SCL-YYZ-EWR-SIN-MAD
Total: 28939 mi (according to Great Circle Mapper)
Total: 28939 mi (according to Great Circle Mapper)
Mar 15, 2005 | 11:02 am
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It may be worth spending some time on the *A RTWMC tool which checks routes, stopovers and mileage as you select where you want to go.
Mar 16, 2005 | 2:18 am
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Thanks for all the tips.
I checked with the *A RTWMC tool and indeed this is a valid itinerary ... but at 29282 miles after taking into account MAD-GRU-SCL and SIN-BKK-MAD (SQ no longer flies SIN-MAD).
To get below the 29000 threshold, is it permitted to do an open jaw between YYZ and EWR? I tried this on the *A RTWMC, and it still came out as 29282!
I checked with the *A RTWMC tool and indeed this is a valid itinerary ... but at 29282 miles after taking into account MAD-GRU-SCL and SIN-BKK-MAD (SQ no longer flies SIN-MAD).
To get below the 29000 threshold, is it permitted to do an open jaw between YYZ and EWR? I tried this on the *A RTWMC, and it still came out as 29282!
Originally Posted by Kiwi Flyer
It may be worth spending some time on the *A RTWMC tool which checks routes, stopovers and mileage as you select where you want to go.
Last edited by madman; Mar 16, 2005 at 3:06 am Reason: To add question
Mar 16, 2005 | 3:53 am
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Originally Posted by madman
To get below the 29000 threshold, is it permitted to do an open jaw between YYZ and EWR? I tried this on the *A RTWMC, and it still came out as 29282!
It may be worth a quick visit to TAP's website and see where they fly to in Sth Am from LIS. Can only be a matter of days before they are officially permitted as part of the RTW's.
The only other option I can think of is to return to BCN as your end point. A lot less miles coming from Asia to get there than over to MAD. Remains to be seen if the seperate fare you need to buy from BCN-MAD comes in under the cost between the STAR1 and STAR2 fare if you stay over the 29,000 limit.
Routing SIN - VIE - BCN will get you under the 29K. I get 28,940 miles.
Mar 17, 2005 | 3:37 am
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Originally Posted by MAN Flyer
Remember that SQ levy a US$500 surcharge for using SIN-EWR vv on a *A RTW ticket.
I had a look at the TAP website but they don't fly to SCL.
Ending at BCN is a great suggestion - 28940 miles - and it is also not too difficult to get cheap-ish flights between BCN and MAD. MAD-FRA would be more difficult although LAN-Chile's 4x-weekly flights is a good option.
Thanks for all the useful suggestions!
Mar 17, 2005 | 5:37 am
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Originally Posted by MAN Flyer
Remember that SQ levy a US$500 surcharge for using SIN-EWR vv on a *A RTW ticket.
Mar 17, 2005 | 10:08 am
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Just checked as I am doing EWR-SIN on a CRTWSTAR2 and it's still US$500 for EWR (and US$150 for LAX) as it was when introduced in September last year. TG start BKK-JFK non-stop with A345's shortly and I doubt they'll put a surcharge on for that.
Mar 17, 2005 | 1:31 pm
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Originally Posted by MAN Flyer
Remember that SQ levy a US$500 surcharge for using SIN-EWR vv on a *A RTW ticket.
Mar 17, 2005 | 1:44 pm
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Courtesy of BlondeBomber's copy of the *A RTW rules (link & many others found in *A reference thread)
hmmm that has US$150 not $500 ...
12 Surcharges
A. SK Business Sleeper surcharge: SK Business Sleeper is available for passengers paying Business Class RTW fares at a surcharge of USD600/CAD850. Exception: the surcharge is JPY70000 when sold in Japan. The surcharge must be reflected as a Q-surcharge after the applicable sector. No surcharge applies for passengers paying First Class RTW fares. Children pay the full Business Sleeper surcharge. SK Business Sleeper is booked in A class.
B. SQ Business Plus/Economy Plus Surcharge on A345 nonstop SIN-LAX/EWR
the surcharges below will be added to business and economy class RTW. Passengers travelling on the following A345 non-stop transpacific services - SQ19/SQ20 SIN-LAX-SIN nonstop and SQ21/SQ22 SIN-EWR-SIN.
Business Plus - Adult USD150.00/CAD197.00 Child USD115.00/CAD151.00 Infant USD15.00/CAD20.00
Economy Plus - Adult USD100.00/CAD132.00 Child USD75.00/CAD99.00 Infant USD10.00/CAD13.00
These must be reflected as Q surcharges after the SIN-LAX/EWR V.v. Sector.
NOTE - The surcharges will not apply to First Class RTW passengers. Business Class RTW passenger may travel on Economy Plus without surcharge. No refund will apply.
A. SK Business Sleeper surcharge: SK Business Sleeper is available for passengers paying Business Class RTW fares at a surcharge of USD600/CAD850. Exception: the surcharge is JPY70000 when sold in Japan. The surcharge must be reflected as a Q-surcharge after the applicable sector. No surcharge applies for passengers paying First Class RTW fares. Children pay the full Business Sleeper surcharge. SK Business Sleeper is booked in A class.
B. SQ Business Plus/Economy Plus Surcharge on A345 nonstop SIN-LAX/EWR
the surcharges below will be added to business and economy class RTW. Passengers travelling on the following A345 non-stop transpacific services - SQ19/SQ20 SIN-LAX-SIN nonstop and SQ21/SQ22 SIN-EWR-SIN.
Business Plus - Adult USD150.00/CAD197.00 Child USD115.00/CAD151.00 Infant USD15.00/CAD20.00
Economy Plus - Adult USD100.00/CAD132.00 Child USD75.00/CAD99.00 Infant USD10.00/CAD13.00
These must be reflected as Q surcharges after the SIN-LAX/EWR V.v. Sector.
NOTE - The surcharges will not apply to First Class RTW passengers. Business Class RTW passenger may travel on Economy Plus without surcharge. No refund will apply.