SQ or LO?
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SQ or LO?
I was able to piece together a business class trip to Asia at the end of the year. I found a saver fare on UA to NRT and now I have to decide on a return from MNL. SQ, via SIN and FRA (99K, 29 hours total) a day earlier than i prefer and the other is OZ/LO via ICN and WAW (90K, 34 hours total). I'm leaning towards SQ but I'd love to hear the collective wisdom of the group. FYI I was able to put the Singapore flights on hold for 5 days in order to transfer the points from UR. Thanks in advance!
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SQ has IMO lost its polish in a big way. The three versions of the long haul seats are too hard and the leg rests are inadequate - on two versions the only rise to 45 degrees which is useless. The crew are not what they used to be either. I think SQ trade on past glory.
OTOH, I see OZ as a rising star. The seats are good, the food is good and while the crew are not perfect they are willing, responsive and helpful. LO offer a very solid product which does what it claims to do, they're not five star but the seats are fine, the crews responsive and the food usually very edible.
I would choose the latter without thinking for long and you would also get to avoid a transit of FRA which is always a good thing. It's probably the worst European airport to transit.
OTOH, I see OZ as a rising star. The seats are good, the food is good and while the crew are not perfect they are willing, responsive and helpful. LO offer a very solid product which does what it claims to do, they're not five star but the seats are fine, the crews responsive and the food usually very edible.
I would choose the latter without thinking for long and you would also get to avoid a transit of FRA which is always a good thing. It's probably the worst European airport to transit.
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Thank you for your advice! I flew OZ on my last flight to Asia and it was awesome. But MNL-ICN is a 4 hour flight. I think the FRA-JFK is actually the same plane, so not sure if I'd actually be connecting. Another option since i have to purchase a NRT-MNL flight anyway it to flight LX NRT-ZRH-JFK. A lot shorter layover time...how's LX in business?
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Honestly, these are both really poor itineraries. How far in advance are you looking? I would probably hold out for something better.
It's a decent product. ZRH is a nice airport to transit. Excellent lounges.
I assume you are not following their current trajectory, i.e., straight down the drain. I would personally hesitate to book on OZ very far in the future. Not sure they will survive.
Also, MNL-ICN will be their regional product, which is quite uncomfortable.
I can only assume you have never transited CDG or LHR.
I assume you are not following their current trajectory, i.e., straight down the drain. I would personally hesitate to book on OZ very far in the future. Not sure they will survive.
Also, MNL-ICN will be their regional product, which is quite uncomfortable.
I can only assume you have never transited CDG or LHR.
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I'm looking for Jan 2020...so not that far out. The benefit to booking on UA vs SQ is that I might be able to change the booking (for a fee) for something more direct if it becomes available.
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Thank you for your advice! I flew OZ on my last flight to Asia and it was awesome. But MNL-ICN is a 4 hour flight. I think the FRA-JFK is actually the same plane, so not sure if I'd actually be connecting. Another option since i have to purchase a NRT-MNL flight anyway it to flight LX NRT-ZRH-JFK. A lot shorter layover time...how's LX in business?
LX would be a good alternative, I don't much like the seats - too coffin like for me but ZRH is a good place to connect and the lounges are passable though LX food seems on the way down at the moment. I would seriously consider LO if the price is good and connecting at WAW is easy. LO are under rated.
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