New *A downloadable timetable
Jul 27, 2012 | 9:19 am
#1
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New *A downloadable timetable
I regularly use the downloadable *A timetable as a reference for planning trips, and update regularly. I have noticed that the *A Travel Desk version (Goldenware?) is being replaced by the *A Timetable (Innovata, as used by OneWorld) on August 1st, and the latter is already available to download from Staralliance.com.
I am not sure that it is totally reliable at the moment though, as some flights seem to be missing. Example I have noticed are the MAN-FRA LH flights operated by BMI (wet leased) which still show up on the Goldenware version, but not on the new version. Another example is UA3677 from IAD to STL, again omitted from the new version. Both of these routes I happen to be flying in the next few weeks, hence the reason I noticed them. I am sure there are a lot more like it.
I will submit this to Star Alliance, but the moral to the story is, don't rely on the new version for the time being!
I am not sure that it is totally reliable at the moment though, as some flights seem to be missing. Example I have noticed are the MAN-FRA LH flights operated by BMI (wet leased) which still show up on the Goldenware version, but not on the new version. Another example is UA3677 from IAD to STL, again omitted from the new version. Both of these routes I happen to be flying in the next few weeks, hence the reason I noticed them. I am sure there are a lot more like it.
I will submit this to Star Alliance, but the moral to the story is, don't rely on the new version for the time being!
Jul 30, 2012 | 8:38 am
#2
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I have found the same.
Flights from NCL to BRU (Again, wetleased by BD) don't show up, the only routing is on LH via DUS.
I wonder if it is because the flights are wetleased? It could also be because it says BD on the flight since BD have left *A.
Flights from NCL to BRU (Again, wetleased by BD) don't show up, the only routing is on LH via DUS.
I wonder if it is because the flights are wetleased? It could also be because it says BD on the flight since BD have left *A.
Last edited by Helvknight; Jul 30, 2012 at 8:45 am
Jul 31, 2012 | 12:33 am
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[KVS Availability Tool 7.0.3/Diamond - Amadeus: Timetable/NL-BCDF]
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NCL Newcastle UK [EGNT] BRU Brussels Metro / National BE = BRU CRL ZYR [EBBR] MON 06 Aug 2012 - 13 Aug 2012 Carrier Flight From Depart To Arrive A/C St Frequency | Dur'n | Dep T | Arr T | Effect | Ending | Exceptions --------- ------ ---- -------- ---- -------- --- -- ---------------------------------------------------------------- SN/## 2194 NCL 06:20 BRU 08:45 ER4 0 12345-- 01:25 - - 29 May 26 Oct BD/## 5286 NCL 06:20 BRU 08:45 ER4 0 12345-- 01:25 - - 29 May 26 Oct BD/## 5290 NCL 16:30 BRU 18:55 ER4 0 12345-7 01:25 - - 31 May 10 Sep SN/## 2190 NCL 16:30 BRU 18:55 ER4 0 12345-7 01:25 - - 16 Apr 26 Oct KL/## 960 NCL 13:25 AMS 15:45 EQV 0 1234567 03:15 - - 06 Aug 13 Aug -> KL/## 1731 AMS 16:55 BRU 17:40 F70 0 - - KL/## 952 NCL 06:05 AMS 08:30 E90 0 1234567 03:40 - - 05 Aug 12 Sep -> KL/## 1723 AMS 10:00 BRU 10:45 F70 0 - - KL/## 964 NCL 17:20 AMS 19:45 EQV 0 1234567 03:45 - - 06 Aug 13 Aug -> KL/## 1733 AMS 21:20 BRU 22:05 F70 0 - - KL/## 954 NCL 09:10 AMS 11:30 F70 0 1234567 03:50 - - 04 Aug 27 Oct -> KL/## 1725 AMS 13:10 BRU 14:00 F70 0 - - BA 1333 NCL 13:40 LHR 14:50 319 0 12345-7 03:55 - 5 05 Aug 17 Aug -> BA 398 LHR 16:20 BRU 18:35 319 0 5 - KL/## 952 NCL 06:05 AMS 08:30 E90 0 12345-- 04:05 - - 06 Aug 26 Oct -> 9B/## 9328 AMS 09:31 ZYR 11:10 TRN 1 - - BA 1321 NCL 06:55 LHR 08:15 320 0 12345-- 04:25 - 5 06 Aug 17 Aug -> SN 2094 LHR 10:05 BRU 12:20 AR8 0 1 - BA 1321 NCL 06:55 LHR 08:15 320 0 12345-- 04:25 - 5 06 Aug 14 Aug -> BD/SN 5434 LHR 10:05 BRU 12:20 AR8 0 1 - BE 144 NCL 12:30 SOU 13:50 DH4 0 ------7 04:30 - - 27 May 21 Oct -> T3 4475 SOU 15:55 BRU 18:00 S20 0 - - AF 1559 NCL 06:20 CDG 09:20 AR8 0 123456- 04:31 - 2E 06 Aug 13 Aug -> AF 7179 CDG 10:37 ZYR 11:51 TRN 0 TN - BA 1325 NCL 09:10 LHR 10:25 EQV 0 12345-- 04:40 - 5 06 Aug 13 Aug -> BA 394 LHR 12:45 BRU 14:50 319 0 5 - KL/## 960 NCL 13:25 AMS 15:45 EQV 0 1234567 04:45 - - 06 Aug 13 Aug -> 9B/## 9376 AMS 17:31 ZYR 19:10 TRN 1 - - KL/## 958 NCL 11:15 AMS 13:35 E90 0 1234567 04:55 - - 06 Aug 13 Aug -> 9B/## 9364 AMS 15:31 ZYR 17:10 TRN 1 - - KL/## 954 NCL 09:10 AMS 11:30 F70 0 1234567 05:00 - - 04 Aug 19 Oct -> 9B/## 9352 AMS 13:31 ZYR 15:10 TRN 1 - - KL/## 952 NCL 06:05 AMS 08:30 E90 0 -----67 05:05 - - 05 Aug 27 Oct -> 9B/## 9334 AMS 10:31 ZYR 12:10 TRN 1 - - BE 140 NCL 07:00 SOU 08:25 DH4 0 ---4--- 05:10 - - 19 Jul 23 Aug -> T3 4475 SOU 10:55 BRU 13:10 J41 0 - - BA 1321 NCL 07:05 LHR 08:25 321 0 -----6- 05:15 - 5 11 Aug 11 Aug -> BD/SN 5434 LHR 11:05 BRU 13:20 AR8 0 1 - BA 1321 NCL 07:05 LHR 08:25 321 0 -----6- 05:15 - 5 11 Aug 08 Sep -> SN 2094 LHR 11:05 BRU 13:20 AR8 0 1 - KL/## 960 NCL 13:25 AMS 15:45 EQV 0 1234567 05:15 - - 06 Aug 13 Aug -> 9B/## 9256 AMS 17:01 ZYR 19:40 TRN 1 - - BD/## 3601 NCL 11:20 DUS 13:40 CR9 0 1------ 05:20 - - 06 Aug 06 Aug Mon 13 Aug -> LH 81 DUS 14:45 FRA 15:40 733 0 - 1 -> LH 1016 FRA 16:45 BRU 17:40 319 0 1 - LH/EW 3455 NCL 11:20 DUS 13:40 CR9 0 1---5-- 05:20 - - 10 Aug 13 Aug Mon 06 Aug -> LH 81 DUS 14:45 FRA 15:40 733 0 - 1 -> SN/LH 7008 FRA 16:45 BRU 17:40 735 0 1 - LH/EW 3455 NCL 11:20 DUS 13:40 CR9 0 1---5-- 05:20 - - 06 Aug 13 Aug -> LH 81 DUS 14:45 FRA 15:40 733 0 - 1 -> LH 1016 FRA 16:45 BRU 17:40 EQV 0 1 - KL/## 964 NCL 17:20 AMS 19:45 EQV 0 1234567 05:23 - - 06 Aug 13 Aug -> 9B/## 9272 AMS 21:01 ZYR 23:43 TRN 1 - - BA 1321 NCL 06:55 LHR 08:15 320 0 ------7 05:25 - 5 29 Jul 12 Aug -> SN 2094 LHR 11:05 BRU 13:20 AR8 0 1 - BA 1321 NCL 06:55 LHR 08:15 320 0 ------7 05:25 - 5 29 Jul 12 Aug -> BD/SN 5434 LHR 11:05 BRU 13:20 AR8 0 1 - KL/## 958 NCL 11:15 AMS 13:35 E90 0 1234567 05:25 - - 06 Aug 13 Aug -> 9B/## 9248 AMS 15:01 ZYR 17:40 TRN 1 - - KL/## 958 NCL 11:15 AMS 13:35 E90 0 1234567 05:25 - - 06 Aug 13 Aug -> KL/## 1731 AMS 16:55 BRU 17:40 F70 0 - - KL/## 958 NCL 11:15 AMS 13:35 E90 0 ---45-- 05:25 - - 09 Aug 10 Aug -> LH 993 AMS 14:45 FRA 15:55 319 0 - 1 -> SN/LH 7008 FRA 16:45 BRU 17:40 735 0 1 - KL/## 958 NCL 11:15 AMS 13:35 E90 0 1------ 05:25 - - 13 Aug 20 Aug Mon 06 Aug -> LH 993 AMS 14:45 FRA 15:55 733 0 - 1 -> LH 1016 FRA 16:45 BRU 17:40 735 0 1 -
Jul 31, 2012 | 4:56 am
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I thought that, but then I found the UA flight missing. I have only done a few searches and found the above, so logic tells me there are many more missing. I have contacted Star ALliance, and they have come back to me saying they are looking into this.
Aug 2, 2012 | 11:38 am
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This is terrible. Is there any way to still use the old one? I just got a new computer and downloaded the new one. I have never liked the OneWorld one, especially because all of the codeshares show up a million times and also because you constantly need to reenter the cities.
I tried searching BOS-TLV and it doesn't show any of the connections through FRA and ZRH -- only through EWR and PHI. What's the point?
Is there anyway that I can get the old one and still use it?
I tried searching BOS-TLV and it doesn't show any of the connections through FRA and ZRH -- only through EWR and PHI. What's the point?
Is there anyway that I can get the old one and still use it?
Aug 2, 2012 | 11:49 am
#7
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I found the old one here:
http://www.goldenware.com/productsDownload.html
But, once you install it, it says that it is not being updated after July 31. Anyone know something else? Thanks.
http://www.goldenware.com/productsDownload.html
But, once you install it, it says that it is not being updated after July 31. Anyone know something else? Thanks.
Oct 21, 2012 | 2:55 am
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more timetable issues
the new timetable does not show AV flights; plus it does not recognise next day connections (before 2359 to post 0001). It is a bloody mess. I've flown with star alliance exclusively for years, but I'm thinking of changing to Skyteam.
Oct 27, 2012 | 11:05 am
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Oct 27, 2012 | 2:27 pm
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