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allenkeys Jul 27, 2012 9:19 am
New *A downloadable timetable
 
I regularly use the downloadable *A timetable as a reference for planning trips, and update regularly. I have noticed that the *A Travel Desk version (Goldenware?) is being replaced by the *A Timetable (Innovata, as used by OneWorld) on August 1st, and the latter is already available to download from Staralliance.com.

I am not sure that it is totally reliable at the moment though, as some flights seem to be missing. Example I have noticed are the MAN-FRA LH flights operated by BMI (wet leased) which still show up on the Goldenware version, but not on the new version. Another example is UA3677 from IAD to STL, again omitted from the new version. Both of these routes I happen to be flying in the next few weeks, hence the reason I noticed them. I am sure there are a lot more like it.

I will submit this to Star Alliance, but the moral to the story is, don't rely on the new version for the time being!

Helvknight Jul 30, 2012 8:38 am
I have found the same.

Flights from NCL to BRU (Again, wetleased by BD) don't show up, the only routing is on LH via DUS.

I wonder if it is because the flights are wetleased? It could also be because it says BD on the flight since BD have left *A.

SFO_FT Jul 30, 2012 11:58 am
Would be nice if all airlines (well, Skyteam at least does) had phone apps that allowed for offline access to their flight skeds.

KVS Jul 31, 2012 12:33 am
Originally Posted by Helvknight (Post 19026765)
I have found the same.

Flights from NCL to BRU (Again, wetleased by BD) don't show up, the only routing is on LH via DUS.

I wonder if it is because the flights are wetleased? It could also be because it says BD on the flight since BD have left *A.
There are also SN pseudo-codeshares for those flights:

[KVS Availability Tool 7.0.3/Diamond - Amadeus: Timetable/NL-BCDF]
Code:
NCL  Newcastle UK [EGNT]
BRU  Brussels Metro / National BE = BRU CRL ZYR [EBBR]
MON  06 Aug 2012 - 13 Aug 2012

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Frequency | Dur'n | Dep T | Arr T | Effect | Ending | Exceptions
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ----------------------------------------------------------------
SN/##      2194    NCL  06:20    BRU  08:45    ER4  0  12345--    01:25      -      -  29 May  26 Oct
BD/##      5286    NCL  06:20    BRU  08:45    ER4  0  12345--    01:25      -      -  29 May  26 Oct
BD/##      5290    NCL  16:30    BRU  18:55    ER4  0  12345-7    01:25      -      -  31 May  10 Sep
SN/##      2190    NCL  16:30    BRU  18:55    ER4  0  12345-7    01:25      -      -  16 Apr  26 Oct
KL/##      960    NCL  13:25    AMS  15:45    EQV  0  1234567    03:15      -      -  06 Aug  13 Aug
 -> KL/##  1731    AMS  16:55    BRU  17:40    F70  0                          -      -
KL/##      952    NCL  06:05    AMS  08:30    E90  0  1234567    03:40      -      -  05 Aug  12 Sep
 -> KL/##  1723    AMS  10:00    BRU  10:45    F70  0                          -      -
KL/##      964    NCL  17:20    AMS  19:45    EQV  0  1234567    03:45      -      -  06 Aug  13 Aug
 -> KL/##  1733    AMS  21:20    BRU  22:05    F70  0                          -      -
KL/##      954    NCL  09:10    AMS  11:30    F70  0  1234567    03:50      -      -  04 Aug  27 Oct
 -> KL/##  1725    AMS  13:10    BRU  14:00    F70  0                          -      -
BA        1333    NCL  13:40    LHR  14:50    319  0  12345-7    03:55      -      5  05 Aug  17 Aug
 -> BA    398    LHR  16:20    BRU  18:35    319  0                          5      -
KL/##      952    NCL  06:05    AMS  08:30    E90  0  12345--    04:05      -      -  06 Aug  26 Oct
 -> 9B/##  9328    AMS  09:31    ZYR  11:10    TRN  1                          -      -
BA        1321    NCL  06:55    LHR  08:15    320  0  12345--    04:25      -      5  06 Aug  17 Aug
 -> SN    2094    LHR  10:05    BRU  12:20    AR8  0                          1      -
BA        1321    NCL  06:55    LHR  08:15    320  0  12345--    04:25      -      5  06 Aug  14 Aug
 -> BD/SN  5434    LHR  10:05    BRU  12:20    AR8  0                          1      -
BE        144    NCL  12:30    SOU  13:50    DH4  0  ------7    04:30      -      -  27 May  21 Oct
 -> T3    4475    SOU  15:55    BRU  18:00    S20  0                          -      -
AF        1559    NCL  06:20    CDG  09:20    AR8  0  123456-    04:31      -      2E  06 Aug  13 Aug
 -> AF    7179    CDG  10:37    ZYR  11:51    TRN  0                          TN      -
BA        1325    NCL  09:10    LHR  10:25    EQV  0  12345--    04:40      -      5  06 Aug  13 Aug
 -> BA    394    LHR  12:45    BRU  14:50    319  0                          5      -
KL/##      960    NCL  13:25    AMS  15:45    EQV  0  1234567    04:45      -      -  06 Aug  13 Aug
 -> 9B/##  9376    AMS  17:31    ZYR  19:10    TRN  1                          -      -
KL/##      958    NCL  11:15    AMS  13:35    E90  0  1234567    04:55      -      -  06 Aug  13 Aug
 -> 9B/##  9364    AMS  15:31    ZYR  17:10    TRN  1                          -      -
KL/##      954    NCL  09:10    AMS  11:30    F70  0  1234567    05:00      -      -  04 Aug  19 Oct
 -> 9B/##  9352    AMS  13:31    ZYR  15:10    TRN  1                          -      -
KL/##      952    NCL  06:05    AMS  08:30    E90  0  -----67    05:05      -      -  05 Aug  27 Oct
 -> 9B/##  9334    AMS  10:31    ZYR  12:10    TRN  1                          -      -
BE        140    NCL  07:00    SOU  08:25    DH4  0  ---4---    05:10      -      -  19 Jul  23 Aug
 -> T3    4475    SOU  10:55    BRU  13:10    J41  0                          -      -
BA        1321    NCL  07:05    LHR  08:25    321  0  -----6-    05:15      -      5  11 Aug  11 Aug
 -> BD/SN  5434    LHR  11:05    BRU  13:20    AR8  0                          1      -
BA        1321    NCL  07:05    LHR  08:25    321  0  -----6-    05:15      -      5  11 Aug  08 Sep
 -> SN    2094    LHR  11:05    BRU  13:20    AR8  0                          1      -
KL/##      960    NCL  13:25    AMS  15:45    EQV  0  1234567    05:15      -      -  06 Aug  13 Aug
 -> 9B/##  9256    AMS  17:01    ZYR  19:40    TRN  1                          -      -
BD/##      3601    NCL  11:20    DUS  13:40    CR9  0  1------    05:20      -      -  06 Aug  06 Aug  Mon 13 Aug
 -> LH    81      DUS  14:45    FRA  15:40    733  0                          -      1
 -> LH    1016    FRA  16:45    BRU  17:40    319  0                          1      -
LH/EW      3455    NCL  11:20    DUS  13:40    CR9  0  1---5--    05:20      -      -  10 Aug  13 Aug  Mon 06 Aug
 -> LH    81      DUS  14:45    FRA  15:40    733  0                          -      1
 -> SN/LH  7008    FRA  16:45    BRU  17:40    735  0                          1      -
LH/EW      3455    NCL  11:20    DUS  13:40    CR9  0  1---5--    05:20      -      -  06 Aug  13 Aug
 -> LH    81      DUS  14:45    FRA  15:40    733  0                          -      1
 -> LH    1016    FRA  16:45    BRU  17:40    EQV  0                          1      -
KL/##      964    NCL  17:20    AMS  19:45    EQV  0  1234567    05:23      -      -  06 Aug  13 Aug
 -> 9B/##  9272    AMS  21:01    ZYR  23:43    TRN  1                          -      -
BA        1321    NCL  06:55    LHR  08:15    320  0  ------7    05:25      -      5  29 Jul  12 Aug
 -> SN    2094    LHR  11:05    BRU  13:20    AR8  0                          1      -
BA        1321    NCL  06:55    LHR  08:15    320  0  ------7    05:25      -      5  29 Jul  12 Aug
 -> BD/SN  5434    LHR  11:05    BRU  13:20    AR8  0                          1      -
KL/##      958    NCL  11:15    AMS  13:35    E90  0  1234567    05:25      -      -  06 Aug  13 Aug
 -> 9B/##  9248    AMS  15:01    ZYR  17:40    TRN  1                          -      -
KL/##      958    NCL  11:15    AMS  13:35    E90  0  1234567    05:25      -      -  06 Aug  13 Aug
 -> KL/##  1731    AMS  16:55    BRU  17:40    F70  0                          -      -
KL/##      958    NCL  11:15    AMS  13:35    E90  0  ---45--    05:25      -      -  09 Aug  10 Aug
 -> LH    993    AMS  14:45    FRA  15:55    319  0                          -      1
 -> SN/LH  7008    FRA  16:45    BRU  17:40    735  0                          1      -
KL/##      958    NCL  11:15    AMS  13:35    E90  0  1------    05:25      -      -  13 Aug  20 Aug  Mon 06 Aug
 -> LH    993    AMS  14:45    FRA  15:55    733  0                          -      1
 -> LH    1016    FRA  16:45    BRU  17:40    735  0                          1      -

allenkeys Jul 31, 2012 4:56 am
Originally Posted by Helvknight (Post 19026765)
I have found the same.

Flights from NCL to BRU (Again, wetleased by BD) don't show up, the only routing is on LH via DUS.

I wonder if it is because the flights are wetleased? It could also be because it says BD on the flight since BD have left *A.
I thought that, but then I found the UA flight missing. I have only done a few searches and found the above, so logic tells me there are many more missing. I have contacted Star ALliance, and they have come back to me saying they are looking into this.

TLVflyer Aug 2, 2012 11:38 am
This is terrible. Is there any way to still use the old one? I just got a new computer and downloaded the new one. I have never liked the OneWorld one, especially because all of the codeshares show up a million times and also because you constantly need to reenter the cities.

I tried searching BOS-TLV and it doesn't show any of the connections through FRA and ZRH -- only through EWR and PHI. What's the point?

Is there anyway that I can get the old one and still use it?

TLVflyer Aug 2, 2012 11:49 am
I found the old one here:

http://www.goldenware.com/productsDownload.html

But, once you install it, it says that it is not being updated after July 31. Anyone know something else? Thanks.

robbeck1 Aug 18, 2012 3:56 pm
The PC Timetable Is a Disaster
 
Totally unreliable.

Frequencies are wrong. Many connections are not included.

Went through this the last time when the last version was introduced. Some never learn.

Pingtung Aug 19, 2012 7:55 am
The new timetable application is difficult to work and it seems to lock up on me pretty often, it's too bad the old TravelDesk isn't being updated anymore.

bpjapan Oct 21, 2012 2:55 am
more timetable issues
 
the new timetable does not show AV flights; plus it does not recognise next day connections (before 2359 to post 0001). It is a bloody mess. I've flown with star alliance exclusively for years, but I'm thinking of changing to Skyteam.

Koby Oct 27, 2012 11:05 am
Originally Posted by bpjapan (Post 19535907)
the new timetable does not show AV flights; plus it does not recognise next day connections (before 2359 to post 0001). It is a bloody mess. I've flown with star alliance exclusively for years, but I'm thinking of changing to Skyteam.
You consider switching to another alliance just because of a bad timetable tool...? :confused: :rolleyes:

G_G Oct 27, 2012 2:27 pm
Originally Posted by bpjapan (Post 19535907)
the new timetable does not show AV flights; plus it does not recognise next day connections (before 2359 to post 0001). It is a bloody mess. I've flown with star alliance exclusively for years, but I'm thinking of changing to Skyteam.
This "new" timetable is awful :td:
I miss traveldesk


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