Best * Alliance Business Class (Lie Flat Seats & Service) USA to Berlin & Back
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Best * Alliance Business Class (Lie Flat Seats & Service) USA to Berlin & Back
My company is sending me to Berlin on business in July and I am getting ready to book flights.
Are the options I'm considering below, the most comfortable in business class (i.e., lie flat seats, meals, IFE, etc.)?
The routing i'm considering is as follows:
Outbound:
UA96: EWR-BER 1750-0805
Return:
UA8723 (operated by Lufthansa) BER-FRA 1330-1440
UA8834 (operated by Lufthansa) FRA-ORD 1725-1950
Any advice would be appreciated, i'm trying to keep the ticket under $9k.
Thanks!
Are the options I'm considering below, the most comfortable in business class (i.e., lie flat seats, meals, IFE, etc.)?
The routing i'm considering is as follows:
Outbound:
UA96: EWR-BER 1750-0805
Return:
UA8723 (operated by Lufthansa) BER-FRA 1330-1440
UA8834 (operated by Lufthansa) FRA-ORD 1725-1950
Any advice would be appreciated, i'm trying to keep the ticket under $9k.
Thanks!
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I would recommend another approach:
JFK-FRA on SQ (A380), FRA-BER on LH. Return, BER-EWR on UA, then EWR-ORD.
This appears to be around $6700 on a random set of dates I checked in July. This way you get the far better A380 product outbound (adds a stop though) and a flat bed on UA on the way back. The LH product is not a flat bed - it's angled lie flat seat.
JFK-FRA on SQ (A380), FRA-BER on LH. Return, BER-EWR on UA, then EWR-ORD.
This appears to be around $6700 on a random set of dates I checked in July. This way you get the far better A380 product outbound (adds a stop though) and a flat bed on UA on the way back. The LH product is not a flat bed - it's angled lie flat seat.
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Just looked at this route yesterday - n/s UA on my dates is $8K. That's not going to happen.
Option 2 - connect in FRA, much cheaper (like 1/2 the price). I'd like to go SQ (better experience/seat, no JV revenue $) but may get sucked into UA due to lifetime mileage push & not wanting to miss out on elite bonus.
Option 2 - connect in FRA, much cheaper (like 1/2 the price). I'd like to go SQ (better experience/seat, no JV revenue $) but may get sucked into UA due to lifetime mileage push & not wanting to miss out on elite bonus.
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I would probably try and take either US or AC on the outbound. Those two have the best lie flats for sleeping.
On the return, probably LH or PMCO metal (ewr) over PMUA (ORD/IAD).
SQ is obviously the best, but you have to connect in JFK and change terminals no matter where you are connecting. That seems like a pain.
On the return, probably LH or PMCO metal (ewr) over PMUA (ORD/IAD).
SQ is obviously the best, but you have to connect in JFK and change terminals no matter where you are connecting. That seems like a pain.
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Just looked at this route yesterday - n/s UA on my dates is $8K. That's not going to happen.
Option 2 - connect in FRA, much cheaper (like 1/2 the price). I'd like to go SQ (better experience/seat, no JV revenue $) but may get sucked into UA due to lifetime mileage push & not wanting to miss out on elite bonus.
Option 2 - connect in FRA, much cheaper (like 1/2 the price). I'd like to go SQ (better experience/seat, no JV revenue $) but may get sucked into UA due to lifetime mileage push & not wanting to miss out on elite bonus.
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Just looked at this route yesterday - n/s UA on my dates is $8K. That's not going to happen.
Option 2 - connect in FRA, much cheaper (like 1/2 the price). I'd like to go SQ (better experience/seat, no JV revenue $) but may get sucked into UA due to lifetime mileage push & not wanting to miss out on elite bonus.
Option 2 - connect in FRA, much cheaper (like 1/2 the price). I'd like to go SQ (better experience/seat, no JV revenue $) but may get sucked into UA due to lifetime mileage push & not wanting to miss out on elite bonus.
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EWR-FRA for my dates is a 777, so that's a much more attractive option (making me think hard over SQ) than a 752 or old 764
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I think they only run the 777 in the summer. It's the only time I've ever been on one this route. And I don't think it's everyday both ways.
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As the OP seems open to options outside of UA, I will move this to the Star Alliance Forum.
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#12
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Thanks for everyone's help.
I ended up booking the following:
Outbound
UA96- EWR-BER (Does anyone know if this has lie flat seats? United.com seems to suggest so, but seatguru complicates this).
Return
UA8723 (Op by LH) BER-FRA
UA8834 (Op by LH) FRA-ORD
Thanks so much.
I ended up booking the following:
Outbound
UA96- EWR-BER (Does anyone know if this has lie flat seats? United.com seems to suggest so, but seatguru complicates this).
Return
UA8723 (Op by LH) BER-FRA
UA8834 (Op by LH) FRA-ORD
Thanks so much.