Y seat programme for *A

Old Oct 5, 11, 8:26 am
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Y seat programme for *A

Hello guys, I just read on a *A Press Release from yesterday that they started a partnership/joint with seat manufacturer B/E Aerospace to produce Y long-haul seats for the member carriers. Although it is supposed to have 2 different seat versions, does it mean that they would have kind of a "standard" Y seat for many *A members?
Wouldn't that risk the airlines competition within the alliance (even though they state it otherwise), or may be not much, as Y class passengers aren't much influenced by the in-flight carachteristics as C and F passengers are?
Does anyone know anything else about this new seat?
The link to the press release is here
http://www.staralliance.com/pt/press/aerospace-prp/
Lauching members will be OS, LH and Air China

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Old Oct 5, 11, 10:13 am
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I guess like with all previous *A procurement initiatives this is completely voluntary. I member airlines can still chose different seats and manufacturers if they want to.
And I think you are right, the Y seat has never been high on the list of people's preference list when picking a carrier.

Launching customer will be OS, not OZ by the way.
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Old Oct 5, 11, 11:22 am
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This was probably just to get bulk discounts...
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Old Oct 5, 11, 11:50 am
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This was probably just to get bulk discounts...
And reduced maintenance costs as they can share some out-station inventories.

But the program also explicitly notes that the airlines get to choose the cushions and such so while the frames will be shared the cushions won't necessarily all be the same. That will result in the passenger experience still having some differences but the airlines also get the savings they need.
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Old Oct 7, 11, 3:50 pm
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Certainly about time UA started replacing its long haul coach seats, particularly on the 744s so these planes can have IFE screens! Photos of the two seat styles would have helped though. Haven't these guys heard "one picture is worth a thousand words"?
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Old Oct 7, 11, 5:28 pm
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Certainly about time UA started replacing its long haul coach seats, particularly on the 744s so these planes can have IFE screens! Photos of the two seat styles would have helped though. Haven't these guys heard "one picture is worth a thousand words"?
Too bad UA isn't involved in the program yet.
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Old Oct 8, 11, 1:02 pm
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Certainly about time UA started replacing its long haul coach seats, particularly on the 744s so these planes can have IFE screens!
UA has announced their IFE plans for the 744s: There will NOT be in-seat screens. They are putting a wireless IFE system for that fleet out to bid and will be using that rather than in-seat IFE.
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They are putting a wireless IFE system for that fleet out to bid and will be using that rather than in-seat IFE.
Very cheap move... forcing people to use unwieldy laptops and the like without power outlets in Y.
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Very cheap move... forcing people to use unwieldy laptops and the like without power outlets in Y.
They have suggested that power outlets are likely to be part of the deployment; they recognize that without that the wifi-streaming IFE isn't particularly valuable, especially on the flights operated by the 744 which are longer stage lengths. No guarantees, but it is highly likely.
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They have suggested that power outlets are likely to be part of the deployment; they recognize that without that the wifi-streaming IFE isn't particularly valuable, especially on the flights operated by the 744 which are longer stage lengths. No guarantees, but it is highly likely.
Then it would be best for me - iPad + power outlet is the best combo (hope their IFE won't be flash based )
The only time I was on UA 747 I was at bulkhead in the middle so it was more like visiting cinema
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