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Sorry, but that's not true. LH SEN offers more than BA Silver, e.g. guaranteed reservations in J, first class check in, choice of available seats incl. emergency exits, free credit card, upgrade vouchers...etc.
It's also harder to achieve, on comparable routes and booking class it takes around 3 times more flights. |
which star alliance program should i join???
You would only get those benefits when flying with LH or LH group airlines, not other *A airlines. The discussion here is about *A benefits.
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(1) What is your home airport? JNB but cold well be either London, NYC, BOS or ORD from next year.
(2) What types of fares do you usually buy ? Y fro personal J for business. (3) How many miles do you usually fly each year? >50k (4) Do you have any kind of status at present? What is it? BAEC Gold (OW Emerald), Virgin red (but with 160k miles) and Flying Blue silver. (5) What is most important to you in a FFP? Free lounge access and good award redemption rates. (6) Which routes do you fly most often LON-JNB, JNB-CPT and LON-NYC (7) Preferred Airlines - British Airways (8) Do you travel for work or pleasure? Travel quarterly transcontinentally for work, typically have to pay for wife and child so try to use redemptions for them. I am BA gold and have just reached my rnewal limit but am unlikely to reach a 2,500 tier points this year and get a 2-4-1 voucher. I have the following star alliance flights booked: SFO-YYZ in business with Air Canada YYZ-BOS in economy with United CPH-ZUR in economy with Swiss ZUR-GVA in economy with Swiss GVA-PAR/LON in economy with swiss JNB-EBB (entebbe) in business with South African airlines return I also have the following optional flights which I can push through either BA (and get the avios which we use regularly), or through an *A member to build membership. JNB-LHR in business return LHR-SYD in business return A couple of JNB-CPT in economy. LHR-FRA in economy x3 My key goals would be: - Obtain status to get lounge access when we fly personally - Be able to actually use thepoints for redemption (I find the points I've had with Lufthansa, perhaps 30k are useless) - Be in a situation were ideally my wife can use the points on a "family account" as we can at BA. So key questions: With this in mind, which do you think is the best airline to join the *AA with? Is it worth putting the optional flights through *A or just stick to BA to keep the points consilidated and built up - on routes that we regularly use? Which *A airline would you use to travel LON-SYD if i go that route? Many thanks in advance! |
Trying to work out which program I should join
(1) What is your home airport? ADL (2) What types of fares do you usually buy ? Discount Economy (3) How many miles do you usually fly each year? <25K (4) Do you have any kind of status at present? What is it? No (5) What is most important to you in a FFP? Lounge Access would be nice as would any flight redemptions (6) Which routes do you fly most often ADL - SIN or ADL - HAN (7) Preferred Airlines Singapore Airlines, Malaysian Airlines (8) Do you travel for work or pleasure? Pleasure I've been a Krisflyer member before but my points always expire. I am a Qantas frequent Flyer Member but they don't fly into Asia from ADL direct anymore so I won't use them. I'd like to find something that will not automatically expire if possible as I use Singapore Airlines if I can get as good a deal as Malaysian. |
Originally Posted by ozziedave
(Post 21880525)
Trying to work out which program I should join
(1) What is your home airport? ADL < snip > I've been a Krisflyer member before but my points always expire. I am a Qantas frequent Flyer Member but they don't fly into Asia from ADL direct anymore so I won't use them. I'd like to find something that will not automatically expire if possible as I use Singapore Airlines if I can get as good a deal as Malaysian. But is not 100% up to date. However it is updated from time to time. From that you should be able to check which FFP's have miles that expire with no activity (often 18 months) or expire after a set time, like SQ. Aegean Miles & Bonus is popular with the guys on AFF Lounge Access is often by status (or business class) so hard to get flying discount economy Even thought QF no longer have ADL internationial flights, you can earn QF points on Cathay, Malaysian and other OneWorld airlines when flying eligible fares. Edit: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/qanta...r-program.html |
Originally Posted by ffly
(Post 21598586)
Hey everybody!
Been lurking around this forum for a long time.. now I think I need some help with this decision. (1) PVG, possibly by end of next year NRT/HND (2) leisure travel (40%) Y, Y+ / business travel (60%) J (70%), Y (30%) (3) 80-100k (4) AC 75K (5) *G, award redemption, upgrades - in that order. *G is imperative (6) a lot intra asia, biz and leisure to Europe, leisure to NA (7) depends on destination - LX to Europe, AC to NA, intra Asia SQ but their fares are usually not competitive if compared with TG, OZ but their intra Asia network is not good for connections from PVG (8) generally I can choose airlines I've been thinking about leaving AC for a while now, now with the new "enhancements" even more. Though, I might make it to SE100K this year (one reason to stay). At the moment I am leaning towards staying with AC. For this and the last year I've been keeping track how many miles I've flown with Star Alliance and how many miles I would have earned with another program, here's the data: year 2012 --- 2013 (currently booked travel by end of year) miles flown 59,134 --- 79,441 earning LX 83,764 --- 112,312 earning TK 66,695 --- not calculated earning AC 62,306 --- 89,712 earning OZ 61,572 --- 88,508 earning SQ 58,247 --- not calculated earning BR not calculated --- 80,473 earinng NH 52,754 --- 77,579 Pro/Con LX: pro: good recognition within LH/LX (e.g. exit rows SEN exclusive), Status good for 2 years, 2 upgrade vouchers per year con: unclear if I make 100k with them every year TK: out due to removal of Y+ long haul as I would only fly them privately and take the hassle of changing on IST if they offer Y+ long haul (even though the IST lounge is awesome) AC: pro: good recognition within AC, SE100K good availability of upgrades, low *G qualifier con: co-pay for non SE starting next year OZ: pro: lifetime *G with 500k miles, low *G qualifier con: hard to connect from PVG (e.g. impossible to book PVG-ICN-Europe on their website) SQ: out due to too high mileage redemption levels and bad recognition with SQ unless you're PPS (which I won't) BR: new member, no real insight into them yet NH: hard to qualify due to NH metal miles, low mileage earning levels Overall it seems I am either stuck with AC (and doing an MR to get SE if I don't make it anyways as its 500/750 USD co-pay per upgrade which is easily "redeemed" with one/two upgrades), take my chances with LX or go with OZ and next to never fly the airline I hold the membership with. With AC I will get my *G for sure every year as with OZ. With LX it might be a stretch. Or am I missing something? Thanks for your input! F Hey guys, That above was my original inquiry for a few weeks back. The advice back then was to go with UA. Right now I feel like the circumstances have changed: (1) the devaluation going on at UA (2) I just qualified for AC SE100K which eliminates the co-pay for upgrades on AC metal Now I'm leaning strongly towards staying at least another year with AC, I will most likely be doing a bit less flying next year.. Any ideas? Thanks! |
(1) What is your home airport? YYZ
(2) What types of fares do you usually buy ? Economy (3) How many miles do you usually fly each year? >50k (4) Do you have any kind of status at present? What is it? AC50k (5) What is most important to you in a FFP? Easy upgrades to bus/exec class with upgrades (AC has devalued this significantly) (6) Which routes do you fly most often YYZ-SFO most travelled, followed by YYZ-LHR. Make a trip to YYZ-SYD at least once a year (7) Preferred Airlines: (not a big fan of UA as their lounges are pathetic and aircrafts are out of date), likely AC, BA, Virgin (8) Do you travel for work or pleasure? Travel for work. Usually pick lowest fare that has 100% mileage since I own the company. |
(1) What is your home airport? Berlin
(2) What types of fares do you usually buy? Discount Economy (3) How many miles do you usually fly each year? 25-75k (4) Do you have any kind of status at present? What is it? Delta Gold (5) What is most important to you in a FFP? One flight a year to the UK, occasional upgrades. (6) Which routes do you fly most often? Intra-europe and global (mostly Asia and Africa). (7) Preferred Airlines? None (ones with nice food...?) (8) Do you travel for work or pleasure? Work (for a charity, so we're poor :)) Thank you for your help! :) |
Hi.
I am taking about 30-40 flights a year divided over 5-7 trips usually. Only few of them are with non low cost carriers are carriers with descent FF programs. As teenager I enrolled in the TK programme as I had a flight to CPT from FRA rond trip, I flew few more times to IST with them and my flights with SN (always the cheapest booking class, so only few hundred miles each time) go to the TK programme too. However, I am not expecting to fly much more with TK in the future, I fly there now with Pegasus all the time. I only redeemed miles once on a return ticket from IST-SZF,SZF-SAW I got the error fare with UA: AMS-EWR Round trip. should I get those miles on UA and thus enroll in their program or keep the TK thing? My miles on TK almost expired and i had to do a real effort to get that domestic RT with them.. not even something I really needed to (a low cost RT had cost me nearly the same as the taxes I had to pay). What do you guys say? I am not an export on mileage programs etc.. thanks for the help! "What is your home airport? Brussels but for how long.. (2) What types of fares do you usually buy? Cheapest (3) How many miles do you usually fly each year? 40k (4) Do you have any kind of status at present? What is it? BA basic and TK basic (5) What is most important to you in a FFP? Redeeming on new flights. (6) Which routes do you fly most often? Intra- Europe or global but no concentration on one continent (less africa, slightly more south america) (7) Preferred Airlines? I tend to travel low cost in Europe, travelled anything beyond that. (8) Do you travel for work or pleasure? Travel |
(1) What is your home airport?
SIN (2) What types of fares do you usually buy ? (C, F, Y, etc.) Mostly Y (short-medium haul for work) and 1-2 long haul discount economy (3) How many miles do you usually fly each year? >50K (4) Do you have any kind of status at present? What is it? UA Gold but expiring (5) What is most important to you in a FFP? Frequent upgrades on travel, good award redemption rates (6) Which routes do you fly most often SIN-AsiaPac mostly, 1-2 SIN-SFO or SIN-JFK per year (7) Preferred Airlines SQ (but I don't like KF) (8) Do you travel for work or pleasure? Mostly work, some pleasure (2-4 times a year) Looking for a good alternative to SQ's KF (since I probably won't make PPS)... :( |
Originally Posted by samlimpeh
(Post 21913174)
(1) What is your home airport?
SIN < snip > (5) What is most important to you in a FFP? Frequent upgrades on travel, good award redemption rates (6) Which routes do you fly most often SIN-AsiaPac mostly, 1-2 SIN-SFO or SIN-JFK per year If the 1-2 SIN-SFO or SIN-JFK are on UA you are unlikley to be able to any use another miles/instruments from another FFP to upgrade. Have you checked the upgrade rules & policy on other airlines that can get you from SIN to USA ? |
Hi guys,
Been reading on this forum for awhile but first got around to registry my self now. Hope you guys can help me find a suitable FFP. (1) What is your home airport? CPH (2) What types of fares do you usually buy ? mostly Y (3) How many miles do you usually fly each year? >50k (4) Do you have any kind of status at present? What is it? enrolled with MM but no status. what to switch from them haven't had a good experiences. (5) What is most important to you in a FFP? Good award redemption rates. I have priority pass through the bank, but if possible I would like to go to the *A lounges instead. (6) Which routes do you fly most often. Married to a Brazilian so 1-2 personal trips to REC a year. 1-2 trips to either US, MOM or AKL and some European tours. (7) Preferred Airlines. none, however I fly with TAP to Brazil as their are the fastest. (8) Do you travel for work or pleasure? i can choose my airlines and to some extend my class. Furthermore I have a card from iapa does that do anything? else than give discount to car rental? Thanks in advance. |
Originally Posted by Mwenenzi
(Post 21913299)
Why not stay with UA? With a SIN address the spending limitd for UA status do not apply IIRC. Just check the numbers even with the devaluation. You may not get better earnings on other airlines in discount economy.
If the 1-2 SIN-SFO or SIN-JFK are on UA you are unlikley to be able to any use another miles/instruments from another FFP to upgrade. Have you checked the upgrade rules & policy on other airlines that can get you from SIN to USA ? Not that familiar with other airlines' FFP, except USAir and Avianca, primarily from the 1-for-1 miles purchase deals. I like Avianca's availability, they seem to have more inventory of SQ reward flights than others, but I don't know if that's a good reason to get on their FFP for serious. I also think that availability gap is likely to shrink in the near-medium term. Ultimately, I think I am going to stick with UA... :o |
*A Newbie w/business miles
(1) home airport? IAD/DCA
(2)types of fares do you usually buy ? C/J (3) How many miles each year? >50k business, 10k+econ (4) status.? I have 50K in united, but haven't flown the 4 united segments for gold. (5) What is most important to you in a FFP? Good award redemption rates, long-term status (6) Which routes do you fly most often? IAD-ADD-DAR (7) Preferred Airlines - ET for purchase, UA for personal/award (8) Do you travel for work or pleasure? work pays, I redeem for pleasure. Assets Work will pay for 4 RT IAD-ADD-DAR trips on Ethiopian in 2014 in business class next year. I have one such RT and a one way not yet credited to a ff program. 40k mqm on UA now, zero segments. 70k in ultimate rewards. Goals: award flight to Australia in April, long term domestic lounge, maybe award flight to gua. I want to figure out how to maximize my miles. My strategy this year was redeem all of the miles on United, and have 20k applied to Aegean for lounge access (though not yet redeemed). I now realize UA gives me only 100%award on ET (despite being in business class). There's still just enough time to do a 4-segment run this year on United. Should I do it, and should I change my strategy for next year? Thanks for any advice! |
(1) What is your home airport? ILM, RDU
(2) What types of fares do you usually buy ? First Domestic US or Business Transatlantic if reasonable, Economy if there is an exceptional deal (3) How many miles do you usually fly each year? The past 2 years I've been limited while in school. Previously I had flown 30K+ but I anticipate more with work and more money for personal travel. (4) Do you have any kind of status at present? What is it? I previously had US Silver but that was followed by the two years of limited travel so I didn't get to take advantage of it. I am working towards at least BA Bronze, possibly silver if I can get a decent run with AA. (5) What is most important to you in a FFP? Reasonable redemption rates, extra PQM for higher classes, reasonable redemption on UA and partner airlines (6) Which routes do you fly most often? I mainly fly in the US on the east coast and to the Midwest with maybe 3 transatlantic flights a year, but I think that will increase a little. (7) Preferred Airlines. I had issues with US and United. I just used up the rest of my miles for the off peak US Europe redemption so I really don't have any loyalty to anything now. I would prefer a different airline if I could redeem on UA at a reasonable rate, but I am not sure if there is such a thing. Germany and Switzerland are the main two countries I'd be flying to in Europe. (8) Do you travel for work or pleasure? pleasure now but maybe work later BA's program seems to cater to exactly the way I tend to book things and their redemption rates are based on distance so the short domestic routes cost me less. I also like getting so much more for travelling in higher classes even if they are upgrades later on. I don't really think there is a *A equivalent for those specific things that make BA advantageous for me, but I thought I'd throw it out there. I got stuck in Newark on the way to Europe in 2012 and lost two days of my trip with UA so I'm not really holding out much hope for them as a good program. |
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