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flyer8009 Mar 23, 2013 8:53 pm


Originally Posted by gotofly (Post 20471581)
How many points you need in kris flyer for a business class and first class ticket

Firstclass SIN-N.A West Coast (one way)
107500 (saver)
210000 (standard)
526000 (full)

imslippy Mar 23, 2013 9:36 pm

Need advice: Which FF program
 
that's pretty tough if you're Canadian. maybe AMEX would be too hard =\

ysrivastava Mar 24, 2013 2:12 am

Need advice: Which FF program
 
This will be very heart braking news for you
Good news as Canadian you can earn kris flyer points through HSBC MasterCard but bad news is it will take you twice as long
The other bad news is that Lufthansa Miles and more and Kris Flyer club membership will charge you a fuel surcharge on each award ticket so first class is going to be over one thousand dollars
The other bad news is if you go with Aeroplan or united you will never find first class because of the situation where there are too many people that want those seats,
So best frequent flyer for what you get is Aeroplan but don't expect first class
Business is available on Turkish which is good
And believe me you are not missing much flying Singapore airline normal first class, in fact it sucks and Lufthansa well that too
Oh by the way a380 is not available for saver redemption on Aeroplan
Unless you are a spending over a hundred thousand dollars a year I would ask you to go with HSBC
Best program is actually SPG Starwood hotel program Because you can change or transfer your points to any airline in the world

ysrivastava Mar 24, 2013 2:15 am

Need advice: Which FF program
 
Oh by the way Alaskan Airlines FrequentFlyer is better than Aeroplan in award availability

Mwenenzi Mar 24, 2013 2:18 am

Better to ask here http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/star-...post-here.html
This thread is likely to be moved to that master thread

flyer8009 Mar 24, 2013 9:09 am

Thanks for your suggestions (imslippy & ysrivastava) regarding the credit cards. I really didn't think of the CC possibility being in Canada so I was thinking mostly miles through flights.

We take quite a few flights out of MSP, the KrisFlyer accrual chart shows 100% miles for quite a few of United economy fares

100% - B, E, G, H, K, L, M, Q, S, T, U, V, W, Y

Also KrisFlyer Elite Gold is 50K miles which I believe gets the same accrual rate from United flights. Unfortunately accrual from Air Canada Economy flights for KrisFlyer is very restricted.

By diverting the miles to KrisFlyer rather than Milage plus I will miss out on the United Gold/Platinum/Premier status and free upgrades on United flights. The consensus seems to the complimentary upgrades are getting harder to get so I might not miss out on much.

Thoughts? Anything else I might miss out by sending miles to KrisFlyer rather than MileagePlus or Aeroplan.

PS. KLM/Delta/AA miles will go to Alaska Airlines program.

Ghibli Mar 27, 2013 8:39 am

What is your home airport?
SIN

What types of fares do you usually buy?
Flexible/semi-flexible economy

How many miles do you usually fly each year?
20k - 30k

What is most important to you in a FFP?
Generous earning on low-fare Y, ease of redemption, increased baggage allowance

Hi all, I'm a Singaporean moving to the UK to study full-time this year and will be flying between BHX and SIN at least twice a year, sometimes from LHR instead, so I would probably be flying on LX, TK, LH or SQ with somewhat flexible tickets.

I'm leaning towards Miles & More because I'll be flying NH SIN-NRT-LAX and SFO-NRT-SIN this year in discount Y and M&M seems to be the only program earning 100% miles for that itinerary (Krisflyer, Miles & Smiles, etc. giving 70%).
I'm hoping to be able to redeem flights within Europe easily for short trips during term breaks.

Is there anything about M&M I should know that might deter me (I've come across the phrase "Miles & Less")? I noticed people recommending TK's programme quite a bit but I'm not sure why specifically.

Cody1484 Mar 27, 2013 2:06 pm

Which FF program charges the least miles ?
 
Hi everyone,

I was hoping someone could help me here. Which Star Alliance program generally cost the fewest miles for an award ticket ? For example, I usually buy my award tickets through United, a first class ticket is 70,000 miles, and I'm usually on either Lufthansa or Asiana metal.

I've done some research, and it appears that the other programs charge much more than 70,000 miles. Flights between Asia and America connecting in Germany with Miles and More were well over 100,000 miles. But perhaps I'm missing something.

I usually fly between LIT, PAR or ICN. I work half a year is Paris, and the other half in Seoul while my family is in Little Rock (LIT).

Would it be best to continue to use my United mileage plus number when I travel on a Star Alliance flight or switch to another FF program such as Miles and More.

My main concern is getting upgrades, lounge access and F class award tickets for the fewest miles, so for these concerns, is UA the best one ?

I'm currently Star Alliance gold, and Mileage plus gold. I usually fly around 50K a year.

Finally, in terms of buying miles... UA seems to be the best as they allow you to buy 100,000 a year. Is this true ?

Thank you very much for any help you can provide !
Cody

MichaelKade Mar 30, 2013 3:14 am

(1) What is your home airport?
ATL
(2) What types of fares do you usually buy ?
Intl Business
(3) How many miles do you usually fly each year?
>50k
(4) Do you have any kind of status at present? What is it?
Delta Diamond
(5) What is most important to you in a FFP?
Good Redemption Rates
(6) Which routes do you fly most often
ATL-xxx-xxx-MNL
(7) Preferred Airlines
Only fly Delta currently... moving over.
(8) Do you travel for work or pleasure? (Can you chooose your airlines, class of service?)
Work/Pleasure - Yes, Yes

TakeTheATrain Mar 31, 2013 8:11 am


Originally Posted by Cody1484 (Post 20493259)
Hi everyone,

I was hoping someone could help me here. Which Star Alliance program generally cost the fewest miles for an award ticket ? For example, I usually buy my award tickets through United, a first class ticket is 70,000 miles, and I'm usually on either Lufthansa or Asiana metal.

I've done some research, and it appears that the other programs charge much more than 70,000 miles. Flights between Asia and America connecting in Germany with Miles and More were well over 100,000 miles. But perhaps I'm missing something.

I usually fly between LIT, PAR or ICN. I work half a year is Paris, and the other half in Seoul while my family is in Little Rock (LIT).

Would it be best to continue to use my United mileage plus number when I travel on a Star Alliance flight or switch to another FF program such as Miles and More.

My main concern is getting upgrades, lounge access and F class award tickets for the fewest miles, so for these concerns, is UA the best one ?

I'm currently Star Alliance gold, and Mileage plus gold. I usually fly around 50K a year.

Finally, in terms of buying miles... UA seems to be the best as they allow you to buy 100,000 a year. Is this true ?

Thank you very much for any help you can provide !
Cody


US Airways charges only 90,000 for roundtrip Business between US and north Asia on any Star carrier, which is a fantastic deal! All probably will change once US Airways joins the dAArk side.

Also note, that US-based carriers don't charge for YQ, the fuel surcharge that ranges between $200-$500 on top of the award redemption. Miles and More and other EU-based carriers will charge for the fuel surcharge.

irish mark Apr 1, 2013 9:47 am

(1) What is your home airport?
Dublin
(2) What types of fares do you usually buy?
discounted business class fares
(3) How many miles do you usually fly each year?
70-110k
(4) Do you have any kind of status at present?
LH SEN (will lose it this year with the miles for z fares going down from 200% to 150%) and EY Gold
(5) What is most important to you in a FFP?
best value mileage redemption to get long haul flights in a decent business class (no more sloped seats for me thank you)
(6) Which routes do you fly most often?
EU-SE Asia/S. Africa 3/4 times a year
(7) Preferred Airlines
Swiss/EY EY does quite a nice service from Dublin (nice hard product and like the Dub lounge and free chauffeur to the airport; i like Swiss but they only have one flight Ex Dub a day and the connection times to long haul flights are terrible on the way out; used to like LH but their business class upgrade needs to speed up. Quite like BA too but am biased as i'm just back from a flight where LH put me on BA F due to frankfurt being closed and really enjoyed the flight
(8) Do you travel for work or pleasure?
Pleasure

Since the changes to M&M i have being putting miles into other programs; have maybe 100k in both EY and BA and in negative miles with LH (just had a F award on the a380). Id like to decide on a proper home for my miles that will reward me with good value C class redemption. I like the family account idea that BA and EY have as i usually fly with my partner and we can bank miles.

All advise welcome..
.

nlee Apr 2, 2013 6:47 pm

(1) What is your home airport? (SFO, LAX, MCO, etc.)
PHL is closest, but Newark or Baltimore work
(3) How many miles do you usually fly each year? (<25K, 25k-50k, >50k)
I'll probably do 18k to 26k each year. Next year might have some heavier travel, putting me closer to 40 or 50k miles. A cheap mileage run wouldn't be out of the question...
(5) What is most important to you in a FFP? (Frequent upgrades on travel, priority services when flying the airline, good award redemption rates, free lounge access, etc.)
Priority services would be nice, as would the extra checked bag.
(6) Which routes do you fly most often (US Domestic, Transpacific etc)
Its pretty much a flight to Bremen through Frankfurt or Munich every time.
(7) Preferred Airlines
United or Lufthansa, even if it adds a connection or two.
(8) Do you travel for work or pleasure? (Can you chooose your airlines, class of service?)
Economy, on my choice of airline.

I'm thinking MileagePlus might be my match, but does anyone else have input on this? EconomyPlus upgrades are very attractive.

-Thanks

PVDtoDEL Apr 2, 2013 6:56 pm


Originally Posted by nlee (Post 20526008)
(1) What is your home airport? (SFO, LAX, MCO, etc.)
PHL is closest, but Newark or Baltimore work
(3) How many miles do you usually fly each year? (<25K, 25k-50k, >50k)
I'll probably do 18k to 26k each year. Next year might have some heavier travel, putting me closer to 40 or 50k miles. A cheap mileage run wouldn't be out of the question...
(5) What is most important to you in a FFP? (Frequent upgrades on travel, priority services when flying the airline, good award redemption rates, free lounge access, etc.)
Priority services would be nice, as would the extra checked bag.
(6) Which routes do you fly most often (US Domestic, Transpacific etc)
Its pretty much a flight to Bremen through Frankfurt or Munich every time.
(7) Preferred Airlines
United or Lufthansa, even if it adds a connection or two.
(8) Do you travel for work or pleasure? (Can you chooose your airlines, class of service?)
Economy, on my choice of airline.

I'm thinking MileagePlus might be my match, but does anyone else have input on this? EconomyPlus upgrades are very attractive.

-Thanks

Take a look at A3, OZ, TK.

ExGleiwitz Apr 3, 2013 1:06 pm

(1) What is your home airport? KTW KRK
(2) What types of fares do you usually buy? economy / coach
(3) How many miles do you usually fly each year? ~30-40k
(4) Do you have any kind of status at present? *A MM basic (have like 120K miles in total gathered)
(5) What is most important to you in a FFP? Lounge access/op-ups/cheap awards
(6) Which routes do you fly most often? EU-USA 2 times a year.. intra-EU 2-3 times a year
(7) Preferred Airlines? LO/LH
(8) Do you travel for work or pleasure? 100-0

I am M&M from several years, but this program is getting less&less.. I actually have 120K miles, that I am not able to spend much, since for upgrades, I am on last position (on US route, anyway bussines is usually fully booked), so I wanted to switch to something, that can give me ANYTHING greater that ZERO, that M&M gives

Siyuanr Apr 6, 2013 8:41 pm

I am a US college student from China. I am recently looking at a cheap UA ticket to Seoul, and that prompts me search for the best *A FF programs. Thanks in advance for your advice!

What is your home airport?
NYC, HKG, SZX

What types of fares do you usually buy?
Y or cheapest

How many miles do you usually fly each year?
No idea... but 26,000 miles from last September to March this year
I will have NYC-Seoul, Korea-HKG/SZX, SZX/HKG-Germany, Germany-NYC flights before this September
At least one US-China return flight each year

Do you have any kind of status at present? What is it?
26,000 Asia Miles from Cathay P.; just started on AAdvantage and Delta

What is most important to you in a FFP?
Redemption

Which routes do you fly most often (US Domestic, Transpacific etc)
NYC-Southeastern China

Preferred Airlines
The cheaper, the better

Do you travel for work or pleasure? (Can you chooose your airlines, class of service?)
All personal travel


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