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tanyakarn May 25, 2011 10:03 am

(1) What is your home airport? BKK/YYZ
(2) What types of fares do you usually buy ? Y
(3) How many miles do you usually fly each year? it varies from 25k to 45k depending on the year
(4) Do you have any kind of status at present? What is it? AP Elite
(5) What is most important to you in a FFP? upgrades and lounge access
(6) Which routes do you fly most often: YYZ to BKK (that's really the only route I fly)
(7) Preferred Airlines: TG
(8) Do you travel for work or pleasure? Pleasure

I have AP Elite status right now, but I'm not the biggest fan of AC so if I could switch, I would.

snod08 May 25, 2011 1:57 pm


Originally Posted by tanyakarn (Post 16447524)
(1) What is your home airport? BKK/YYZ
(2) What types of fares do you usually buy ? Y
(3) How many miles do you usually fly each year? it varies from 25k to 45k depending on the year
(4) Do you have any kind of status at present? What is it? AP Elite
(5) What is most important to you in a FFP? upgrades and lounge access
(6) Which routes do you fly most often: YYZ to BKK (that's really the only route I fly)
(7) Preferred Airlines: TG
(8) Do you travel for work or pleasure? Pleasure

I have AP Elite status right now, but I'm not the biggest fan of AC so if I could switch, I would.

Welcome to FT!

You are kind of stuck in a tight spot here. Since you fly only one route almost all the time. I would guess that AP Elite gives you the best chance for any operational upgrades.

You can consider TK (Turkish) or OZ (Asiana)....they have longer expiry dates for the Star Gold Status. However, they wont give you any advantages with respect to upgrades.
No matter what Star Gold Status you have, you will always get lounge access on your routes.

tanyakarn May 25, 2011 2:42 pm


Originally Posted by snod08 (Post 16449225)
Welcome to FT!

You are kind of stuck in a tight spot here. Since you fly only one route almost all the time. I would guess that AP Elite gives you the best chance for any operational upgrades.

You can consider TK (Turkish) or OZ (Asiana)....they have longer expiry dates for the Star Gold Status. However, they wont give you any advantages with respect to upgrades.
No matter what Star Gold Status you have, you will always get lounge access on your routes.

How many qualifying miles are required for Gold Status for those airlines? I know that AP is one of the lower ones in Star Alliance. I used to have ROP but I could never get past Silver Status.

snod08 May 25, 2011 3:51 pm


Originally Posted by tanyakarn (Post 16449546)
How many qualifying miles are required for Gold Status for those airlines? I know that AP is one of the lower ones in Star Alliance. I used to have ROP but I could never get past Silver Status.

OZ = 40K
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asiana_...lyer_programme

TK = 40K
http://www.turkishairlines.com/en-IN...art_elite.aspx

If Star Gold is all you want, then consider Aegean (A3). You only need 20K miles to get it. And they give you 1000 miles just to sign up.
Several links in this thread about A3. please Read the last few pages

luegers May 26, 2011 10:54 am

Hello !


(1) What is your home airport? GRZ, LNZ, VIE
(2) What types of fares do you usually buy ? Y
(3) How many miles do you usually fly each year? it varies from 20k to 35k depending on the year
(4) Do you have any kind of status at present? No but 9k m&m Status Miles
(5) What is most important to you in a FFP? upgrades, lounge access, award redemption
(6) Which routes do you fly most often: Mostly in Europe / also one or two Transatlantic per year
(7) Preferred Airlines: LH
(8) Do you travel for work or pleasure? Work


I will make 2 longhaul flights in the next 2 months

1. GRZ - FRA (H)
FRA - LAX (H)

LAX - FRA (B)
FRA - GRZ (B)

2. GRZ - FRA
FRA - IND

IND - FRA
FRA - GRZ

Here I dont know the booking Class but sure some kine of (Y)

and some flights in Europe - most time with Lufthansa

What would be the best programme for me ?

Thanks in advance

alkwarismi May 26, 2011 11:33 am

I've been top tier Delta for about 6 years. Recent program enhancements are good, but in flight service is still subpar (with some exceptions). Local upgrades happen less frequently despite diamond status (220k skymiles last year alone). I actually got more upgrades before diamond was introduced. Flying thru Atlanta, everyone is platinum and diamond and the new rollover makes it easier for others who don't fly as much as I do which has the effect of diluting the value of the newer benefits. I really like being able to gift out gold status though. I have secured diamond until Feb 2013.

I will be moving to Stockholm in a month or 2 for a 3 year assignment. I'm considering UA membership and primarily flying SAS.


1) What is your home airport? Currently CLT, Soon to be ARN (stockholm). will travel back to CLT frequently

(2) What types of fares do you usually buy ? lowest fare on 6 hour or less, business for transcontinent (both ways)

(3) How many miles do you usually fly each year? 200k

(4) Do you have any kind of status at present? What is it? (UA Premier, M&M Senator etc) Delta Diamond

(5) What is most important to you in a FFP? (Frequent upgrades on travel, priority services when flying the airline, good award redemption rates, free lounge access, etc.) Priority services, upgrade ability, lounge access, reward tix to japan

(6) Which routes do you fly most often (US Domestic, Transpacific etc) 6 - 10 trips to EU and ASIA, Weekly local (when i relocate, will still be the same only flying back to US)

(7) Preferred Airlines...delta? anything asian.. I do not know much about EU carriers other than sas and klm

(8) Do you travel for work or pleasure? (Can you chooose your airlines, class of service?) work. lowest fare on 6 hour or less, business for transcontinent (EU or Asia))

Boogie711 May 26, 2011 2:10 pm

Stick with UA or go to Aeroplan?
 
Thoughts? I'm not likely to get to Gold with UA... If it weren't for access to the Economy Plus seats I should have probably stuck with Aeroplan, but now I'm wondering:

a) Stick with UA and get Silver status
b) Go to Aeroplan and try to squeeze in (but pay extra for Economy Plus seats. :(
c) Jump over to something like Aegean just to get easy *G and run my US travel with the economy plus stuff through UA.

1) What is your home airport? Toronto for travel within Canada, Buffalo for travel to the USA

(2) What types of fares do you usually buy ? Usually lowest fare

(3) How many miles do you usually fly each year? About 36 segments, or 25-40k a year

(4) Do you have any kind of status at present? What is it? I'm a rookie, 7k into UA with status miles and a boatload of non-status Aeroplan. I would have stuck with Aeroplan but I bought RCC access with United and prepaid Economy Plus seating... I figured, if I didn't have status, I can try to fake it. :)

(5) What is most important to you in a FFP? (Frequent upgrades on travel, priority services when flying the airline, good award redemption rates, free lounge access, etc.) The ability to work - lounge access at the airport, legroom, space and electrical access in the air. I'm OK with economy service but at 6'4" vastly prefer economy plus or exit row seats.

(6) Which routes do you fly most often (US Domestic, Transpacific etc) US Domestic around the east coast, mostly, plus 3-5 trips a year around Canada. On rare occasion transcontinental to Europe.

(7) Preferred Airlines... In a perfect world, it's hard to beat the personal TV and electrical outlets in Air Canada metal, but throughout the US I'm usually stuck flying UA or CO.

(8) Do you travel for work or pleasure? (Can you chooose your airlines, class of service?) work. I'm a consultant so I usually price airfare into a proposal, so cost is an issue, but not always the be all and end all.

fly222 May 31, 2011 3:27 am

which one?
 
(1) What is your home airport? LJU
(2) What types of fares do you usually buy ? Y/C (40/60)
(3) How many miles do you usually fly each year? 25k-50k
(4) Do you have any kind of status at present? What is it? M&M FTL
(5) What is most important to you in a FFP? free lounge access, upgrades
(6) Which routes do you fly most often Europe short-haul, 3 world intl trips per year
(7) Preferred Airlines: LH, AUA, JP
(8) Do you travel for work or pleasure? work & pleasure

somebody8888 May 31, 2011 11:49 pm

(1) What is your home airport? HKG
(2) What types of fares do you usually buy ? U, W
(3) How many miles do you usually fly each year? 10-25K
(4) Do you have any kind of status at present? What is it? none
(5) What is most important to you in a FFP? good award redemption rates
(6) Which routes do you fly most often? Transpacific HKG-SFO
(7) Preferred Airlines none
(8) Do you travel for work or pleasure? pleasure

YuropFlyer Jun 1, 2011 4:45 am


Originally Posted by somebody8888 (Post 16482431)
(1) What is your home airport? HKG
(2) What types of fares do you usually buy ? U, W
(3) How many miles do you usually fly each year? 10-25K
(4) Do you have any kind of status at present? What is it? none
(5) What is most important to you in a FFP? good award redemption rates
(6) Which routes do you fly most often? Transpacific HKG-SFO
(7) Preferred Airlines none
(8) Do you travel for work or pleasure? pleasure

With such low flying pattern, reaching status anywhere but with A3 will be close to impossible. Also, miles might devaluate quicker than you can actually use them. It's a really tricky one. Maybe Asiana, if you fly with them and their earnings are ok-ish on your fare ticket, could work out over a 2 year schedule. But not expect much here. Especially if your flying is only once a year.

snod08 Jun 1, 2011 5:39 am


Originally Posted by YuropFlyer (Post 16483036)
With such low flying pattern, reaching status anywhere but with A3 will be close to impossible. Also, miles might devaluate quicker than you can actually use them. It's a really tricky one. Maybe Asiana, if you fly with them and their earnings are ok-ish on your fare ticket, could work out over a 2 year schedule. But not expect much here. Especially if your flying is only once a year.

Or even simply collect the miles in a program where the earned miles do not expire (example Continental). The amount of miles flown per year will definitely not get any status with CO...but at least the miles will be available for future redemptions.

PVDtoDEL Jun 1, 2011 1:47 pm


Originally Posted by snod08 (Post 16483174)
Or even simply collect the miles in a program where the earned miles do not expire (example Continental). The amount of miles flown per year will definitely not get any status with CO...but at least the miles will be available for future redemptions.

CO won't exist in a little while, and I'm not sure whether UA miles expire...

doraemonkerpal Jun 1, 2011 3:48 pm

(1) What is your home airport? LAX, SNA (or anywhere easily accessible in California)
(2) What types of fares do you usually buy ? B, H, K, Y, W, T (basically economy or sometimes discounted economy)
(3) How many miles do you usually fly each year? 15K-40K (2 trips to Asia/SE Asia each year)
(4) Do you have any kind of status at present? What is it? N/A
(5) What is most important to you in a FFP? Free lounge access, priority services
(6) Which routes do you fly most often? Transpacific (North America to Asia/SE Asia)
(7) Preferred Airlines? None (currently enrolled with AA and BA)
(8) Do you travel for work or pleasure? Pleasure (I can choose any airline and class of service)

I'm leaning towards A3 after reading about it on FT but I welcome your professional advice. :) Thanks!

snod08 Jun 1, 2011 3:52 pm


Originally Posted by doraemonkerpal (Post 16486676)
(1) What is your home airport? LAX, SNA (or anywhere easily accessible in California)
(2) What types of fares do you usually buy ? B, H, K, Y, W, T (basically economy or sometimes discounted economy)
(3) How many miles do you usually fly each year? 15K-40K (2 trips to Asia/SE Asia each year)
(4) Do you have any kind of status at present? What is it? N/A
(5) What is most important to you in a FFP? Free lounge access, priority services
(6) Which routes do you fly most often? Transpacific (North America to Asia/SE Asia)
(7) Preferred Airlines? None (currently enrolled with AA and BA)
(8) Do you travel for work or pleasure? Pleasure (I can choose any airline and class of service)

I'm leaning towards A3 after reading about it on FT but I welcome your professional advice. :) Thanks!

I think A3 is indeed a good choice. 40K miles per year may get you Star Gold on some star partners. But, if you have a year where you may not fly as much, then you get in trouble.
So, A3 is a strong choice for you..as it requires only 20K (and they give 1000 elite miles just for joining).

snod08 Jun 1, 2011 3:57 pm


Originally Posted by Boogie711 (Post 16455693)
Thoughts? I'm not likely to get to Gold with UA... If it weren't for access to the Economy Plus seats I should have probably stuck with Aeroplan, but now I'm wondering:

a) Stick with UA and get Silver status
b) Go to Aeroplan and try to squeeze in (but pay extra for Economy Plus seats. :(
c) Jump over to something like Aegean just to get easy *G and run my US travel with the economy plus stuff through UA.

1) What is your home airport? Toronto for travel within Canada, Buffalo for travel to the USA

(2) What types of fares do you usually buy ? Usually lowest fare

(3) How many miles do you usually fly each year? About 36 segments, or 25-40k a year

(4) Do you have any kind of status at present? What is it? I'm a rookie, 7k into UA with status miles and a boatload of non-status Aeroplan. I would have stuck with Aeroplan but I bought RCC access with United and prepaid Economy Plus seating... I figured, if I didn't have status, I can try to fake it. :)

(5) What is most important to you in a FFP? (Frequent upgrades on travel, priority services when flying the airline, good award redemption rates, free lounge access, etc.) The ability to work - lounge access at the airport, legroom, space and electrical access in the air. I'm OK with economy service but at 6'4" vastly prefer economy plus or exit row seats.

(6) Which routes do you fly most often (US Domestic, Transpacific etc) US Domestic around the east coast, mostly, plus 3-5 trips a year around Canada. On rare occasion transcontinental to Europe.

(7) Preferred Airlines... In a perfect world, it's hard to beat the personal TV and electrical outlets in Air Canada metal, but throughout the US I'm usually stuck flying UA or CO.

(8) Do you travel for work or pleasure? (Can you chooose your airlines, class of service?) work. I'm a consultant so I usually price airfare into a proposal, so cost is an issue, but not always the be all and end all.

UA will likely go to a 4-tier (based on elite miles) system. You will be at the bottom of it. One advantage is that you get free E+.

However, I suggest you get 20K on A3 as cheap as possible and get your Star Gold. And then pay for the annual E+ scheme on UA.
This way, you get all the priority access and lounge access (including USA domestic travel). You would not need to renew your RCC card (unless you want to), if you have A3 Star Gold.


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