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edinv May 11, 2011 3:25 pm

10,000 AC miles or 5 AC sectors may be difficult to achieve
 
To maintain *G with AC there is requirement effective this year, to earn at least 10,000 status miles on AC or fly at least 5 AC sectors. As an non-Canadian this requirement may be difficult to achieve in future years. AC was my choice of *FF scheme made in 1998 (before BD joined *Alliance) I am not too sure about the future of BD at present. Can anyone suggest an alternative. (I am OK for AC*G through to 28 Feb 2013, as booked AC flights this year will give me 10,000+ miles ^)

(1) What is your home airport? (EDI or GLA):eek:
(2) What types of fares do you usually buy ? (Y for UK/Europe or UK domestic, J for intercontinental if possible!)
(3) How many miles do you usually fly each year? (35k last year,this year projected at 37k)
(4) Do you have any kind of status at present? What is it? (AC*G)
(5) What is most important to you in a FFP? (priority services when flying the airline, lounge access)
(6) Which routes do you fly most often (UK/Europe x 3 returns, UK Domestic x 4 returns, long haul ex UK 2 returns in J)
(7) Preferred Airlines ( * carriers used in the past year to obtain *G are:- AC,BD,JK,LH,LX,SK & SA)
(8) Do you travel for work or pleasure? (Recently retired -only travel for leisure!):cool:

lilu3003 May 11, 2011 3:39 pm

Hi, I am so lost - I was so happy to come across this post!

I have recently moved to the US (SFO) and since I expect I will be flying home to Israel about once to twice a year and once more to Europe, I would really like to enroll in one of the star alliance programs. I am most interested in being able to redeem miles toward domestic or international airfare.

I also have 2 round trip flights to Israel with CO and another one way flight with Lufthansa from the last 5 months that I would like to credit in whichever program I go with.

(1) What is your home airport? (SFO)
(2) What types of fares do you usually buy ? (W)
(3) How many miles do you usually fly each year? (25k-50k, closer to 25K)
(4) Do you have any kind of status at present? What is it? (No)
(5) What is most important to you in a FFP? (good award redemption rates and credit rates)
(6) Which routes do you fly most often (SFO-TLV)
(7) Preferred Airlines(Nothing specific)
(8) Do you travel for work or pleasure? (Pleasure)

Thank you in advance for your help,

Liat

WC_EEND May 12, 2011 4:47 am

1) What is your home airport? BRU and pretty much anything within a reasonable distance of it (ie: I don't make an issue of having to take the Eurostar to London if the fare is better when I fly ex-LHR)
(2) What types of fares do you usually buy ? Y or Discounted Economy
(3) How many miles do you usually fly each year? 15-ish k
(4) Do you have any kind of status at present? What is it? none
(5) What is most important to you in a FFP? mostly lounge access
(6) Which routes do you fly most often? intra-European
(7) Preferred Airlines? whichever one is in star and offfers the best value for money
(8) Do you travel for work or pleasure? only for leisure, so I have full choice of any airlines

snod08 May 12, 2011 6:14 am


Originally Posted by WC_EEND (Post 16371844)
1) What is your home airport? BRU and pretty much anything within a reasonable distance of it (ie: I don't make an issue of having to take the Eurostar to London if the fare is better when I fly ex-LHR)
(2) What types of fares do you usually buy ? Y or Discounted Economy
(3) How many miles do you usually fly each year? 15-ish k
(4) Do you have any kind of status at present? What is it? none
(5) What is most important to you in a FFP? mostly lounge access
(6) Which routes do you fly most often? intra-European
(7) Preferred Airlines? whichever one is in star and offfers the best value for money
(8) Do you travel for work or pleasure? only for leisure, so I have full choice of any airlines

Aegean (A3) will probably be the best choice for you. They give you 1000 elite miles just for joining. You need 19K miles more for Star Gold which gives you lounge access whenever you fly star alliance.

snod08 May 12, 2011 6:16 am


Originally Posted by lilu3003 (Post 16369057)
Hi, I am so lost - I was so happy to come across this post!

I have recently moved to the US (SFO) and since I expect I will be flying home to Israel about once to twice a year and once more to Europe, I would really like to enroll in one of the star alliance programs. I am most interested in being able to redeem miles toward domestic or international airfare.

I also have 2 round trip flights to Israel with CO and another one way flight with Lufthansa from the last 5 months that I would like to credit in whichever program I go with.

(1) What is your home airport? (SFO)
(2) What types of fares do you usually buy ? (W)
(3) How many miles do you usually fly each year? (25k-50k, closer to 25K)
(4) Do you have any kind of status at present? What is it? (No)
(5) What is most important to you in a FFP? (good award redemption rates and credit rates)
(6) Which routes do you fly most often (SFO-TLV)
(7) Preferred Airlines(Nothing specific)
(8) Do you travel for work or pleasure? (Pleasure)

Thank you in advance for your help,

Liat

With W fares, UA will probably be a good choice for you.

If I understand you correctly, you have flown in the past 5 months but have not credited to any program? remember that most programs may at the most allow 6 months time from flying to crediting to mileage program.

UA will offer you more choices from SFO. So, with 25K you can become UA low-level elite...which gives you free access to economy plus (more legroom).

A couple of SFO-TLV trips should easily get you the mimimum level of elite status.

lilu3003 May 12, 2011 10:46 am


Originally Posted by snod08 (Post 16372047)
With W fares, UA will probably be a good choice for you.

If I understand you correctly, you have flown in the past 5 months but have not credited to any program? remember that most programs may at the most allow 6 months time from flying to crediting to mileage program.

UA will offer you more choices from SFO. So, with 25K you can become UA low-level elite...which gives you free access to economy plus (more legroom).

A couple of SFO-TLV trips should easily get you the mimimum level of elite status.

Thank you for your answer, and you understood me completely. By UA you mean united airlines, right? Do you know what will happen when they merge with CO though? which FFP of the airlines will win over?

I wasn't sure from your answer - in your opinion, with award travel as a first priority, UA will be the best choice?

Thanks for your help,
Liat

edinv May 12, 2011 10:50 am

possible move AC to A3
 

Originally Posted by snod08 (Post 16372043)
Aegean (A3) will probably be the best choice for you. They give you 1000 elite miles just for joining. You need 19K miles more for Star Gold which gives you lounge access whenever you fly star alliance.

- Many thanks for your advice. I'll have a look at the A3 site! ^

snod08 May 12, 2011 10:52 am


Originally Posted by lilu3003 (Post 16373510)
Thank you for your answer, and you understood me completely. By UA you mean united airlines, right? Do you know what will happen when they merge with CO though? which FFP of the airlines will win over?

I wasn't sure from your answer - in your opinion, with award travel as a first priority, UA will be the best choice?

Thanks for your help,
Liat

UA = United ..Indeed!

The two mileage programs are already merging (CO and UA). In essence it really does not matter at this moment as to which program you put the miles in. The CO and UA miles can be transferred between the two programs freely. There is a huge discussion in the following thread:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...-tools-69.html

CO has generally been better with partner-airline award inventory compared to UA.
However, CO is stingy with its own inventory.

But, as i said, it does not matter. Since you can transfer miles between the two programs if you find an award in one program and not the other.

Belated welcome to FT!

Enjoy the conversations!

snod08 May 12, 2011 10:53 am


Originally Posted by edinv (Post 16373528)
- Many thanks for your advice. I'll have a look at the A3 site! ^

Also look at the discussion of the A3 Star Gold status on FT (star Alliance forum). It has some nice tips.

snod08 May 12, 2011 10:56 am


Originally Posted by edinv (Post 16373528)
- Many thanks for your advice. I'll have a look at the A3 site! ^

Here is one discussion. I could not find the other one, (perhaps its in another forum);
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/star-...000-miles.html

PVDtoDEL May 12, 2011 2:43 pm

The other one:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/other...les-bonus.html

KL895 May 14, 2011 3:52 pm

Hello all,

Your advice would be much appreciated:

1) What is your home airport? AMS
(2) What types of fares do you usually buy ? Discounted Economy
(3) How many miles do you usually fly each year? In total around 15.000, one longhaul return and various Intra-european trips, mostly on KLM or whatever offers the best price.
(4) Do you have any kind of status at present? What is it? None, but quite some Flying Blue miles collected over the past years.
(5) What is most important to you in a FFP? Long validity time of miles, miles awarded on cheapest booking classes.
(6) Which routes do you fly most often? Intra-European
(7) Preferred Airlines? No preference with regards to *A
(8) Do you travel for work or pleasure? Pleasure

I have a LX return flight AMS-ZRH-IST coming up, booking classes are T-T-E-E, so low fares.

Over the past years, I have collected miles on UA and SK's programs but used all the miles in the meantime. Those points came mostly from taking one longhaul flight and than adding some shorthaul points. As I've used all the miles, joining a new program probably gives more sign-up bonus than the (few hundred) remaining miles on either of the programs.

Thanks!

YuropFlyer May 14, 2011 4:01 pm


Originally Posted by KL895 (Post 16386246)
Hello all,

Your advice would be much appreciated:

1) What is your home airport? AMS
(2) What types of fares do you usually buy ? Discounted Economy
(3) How many miles do you usually fly each year? In total around 15.000, one longhaul return and various Intra-european trips, mostly on KLM or whatever offers the best price.
(4) Do you have any kind of status at present? What is it? None, but quite some Flying Blue miles collected over the past years.
(5) What is most important to you in a FFP? Long validity time of miles, miles awarded on cheapest booking classes.
(6) Which routes do you fly most often? Intra-European
(7) Preferred Airlines? No preference with regards to *A
(8) Do you travel for work or pleasure? Pleasure

I have a LX return flight AMS-ZHR-IST coming up, booking classes are T-T-E-E, so low fares.

Over the past years, I have collected miles on UA and SK's programs but used all the miles in the meantime. Those points came mostly from taking one longhaul flight and than adding some shorthaul points. As I've used all the miles, joining a new program probably gives more sign-up bonus than the (few hundred) remaining miles on either of the programs.

Thanks!

That's a no brainer, Go A3 (Aegean)

1000 sign-up miles (also status) means 3k will give you *S, with the chance to reach *G for another 16k (one good long haul R/T) for 3 years!

AMS-ZRH-IST will bring you 2094 miles (50%, minimum 500, IST is 1094)

So all you've to do will be another 906 miles within a year to score *S, then you get another year after qualification to *S to make *G with 16k only, and it's valid 3 years. Go for it ^

KL895 May 14, 2011 7:00 pm


Originally Posted by YuropFlyer (Post 16386289)
Go for it ^

Never thought it would be that simple! :D

Thanks!

promethe May 15, 2011 6:26 pm

(1) What is your home airport? BOS/JFK and WAW
(2) What types of fares do you usually buy? W/Q + Y if on full corporate expense (2-3x a year)
(3) How many miles do you usually fly each year? ~40-50k, planning ~75k this year
(4) Do you have any kind of status at present? *A MM FTL
(5) What is most important to you in a FFP? Lounge access/op-ups/cheap awards (in that order)
(6) Which routes do you fly most often? USA-EU
(7) Preferred Airlines? LX/LH ATM (generally LH-owned subsidiaries), can change if necessary
(8) Do you travel for work or pleasure? 70-30

After noticing recently that *A stopped being so competitive on my usual EUR-USA routes, I am considering moving to 1W, but I'd rather stay with *A -- I like the wide Asian and South American network, and simply the size of *A.

I have an upcoming trip WAW-LHR-SFO-BOS-FRA-WAW via LO/2xCO (UA metal)/LH which should net at the very least 12k QM and shortly after that will be flying at least one more WAW-BOS-WAW. (unclear on layover airport, probably ZRH, VIE or FRA) Definitely willing to put these to good use.

For some reason though I have a feeling LH M&M is one of the stingiest *A FF. Right?


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