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A number of threads have been started with members asking for guidance on which mileage programme they should join. In order to help users I have started this thread to allow people to post their requests for information here and to allow people to offer assistance.
For members asking for information please help people to assist you, can you provide:
(1) What is your home airport? (SFO, LAX, MCO, etc.)
(2) What types of fares do you usually buy ? (C, F, Y, etc.)
(3) How many miles do you usually fly each year? (<25K, 25k-50k, >50k)
(4) Do you have any kind of status at present? What is it? (UA Silver, M&M Senator etc)
(5) What is most important to you in a FFP? (Frequent upgrades on travel, priority services when flying the airline, good award redemption rates, free lounge access, etc.)
(6) Which routes do you fly most often (US Domestic, Transpacific etc)
(7) Preferred Airlines
(8) Do you travel for work or pleasure? (Can you chooose your airlines, class of service?)
GENERAL INFORMATION:
If you fly less than 50k miles per year: it is almost guaranteed that your choice will be between Aegean Airlines, Turkish Airlines, and Asiana Airlines. Please look up these airlines' frequent flier programs, and make a decision as to which best suits your needs.
Some considerations to take into account:
Airlines tend to treat members of their own frequent flier program better than members of other frequent flier programs. If you fly one of these airlines, it is recommended that you choose that airline.
Some airlines have better earning/redemption charts for your pattern. For example, if you fly on cheap fares on a certain airline often, Turkish might give you miles for it, while Aegean might not. However, Turkish Airlines might charge much more for the redemption that you want to make than Aegean.
Asiana Airlines offers lifetime Star Alliance Gold for 500k miles over life. The other 2 airlines do not offer this benefit.
Asiana Airlines has a credit card in the USA and some other countries. If you are interested in credit cards, check to make sure that the program that you join has a credit card in your country.
If you still aren't sure which frequent flyer program is for you after looking these up, feel free to ask on this thread.
For members asking for information please help people to assist you, can you provide:
(1) What is your home airport? (SFO, LAX, MCO, etc.)
(2) What types of fares do you usually buy ? (C, F, Y, etc.)
(3) How many miles do you usually fly each year? (<25K, 25k-50k, >50k)
(4) Do you have any kind of status at present? What is it? (UA Silver, M&M Senator etc)
(5) What is most important to you in a FFP? (Frequent upgrades on travel, priority services when flying the airline, good award redemption rates, free lounge access, etc.)
(6) Which routes do you fly most often (US Domestic, Transpacific etc)
(7) Preferred Airlines
(8) Do you travel for work or pleasure? (Can you chooose your airlines, class of service?)
GENERAL INFORMATION:
If you fly less than 50k miles per year: it is almost guaranteed that your choice will be between Aegean Airlines, Turkish Airlines, and Asiana Airlines. Please look up these airlines' frequent flier programs, and make a decision as to which best suits your needs.
Some considerations to take into account:
Airlines tend to treat members of their own frequent flier program better than members of other frequent flier programs. If you fly one of these airlines, it is recommended that you choose that airline.
Some airlines have better earning/redemption charts for your pattern. For example, if you fly on cheap fares on a certain airline often, Turkish might give you miles for it, while Aegean might not. However, Turkish Airlines might charge much more for the redemption that you want to make than Aegean.
Asiana Airlines offers lifetime Star Alliance Gold for 500k miles over life. The other 2 airlines do not offer this benefit.
Asiana Airlines has a credit card in the USA and some other countries. If you are interested in credit cards, check to make sure that the program that you join has a credit card in your country.
If you still aren't sure which frequent flyer program is for you after looking these up, feel free to ask on this thread.
Need advice on which *A FF scheme to join? - please post here
#2641
FlyerTalk Evangelist


Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: MEL CHC
Posts: 22,932
Thanks for the tip, have not considered Lifemiles before. With a cursory glance though, it seems that TPAC Flex when ticketed in K/L fare code only earn 50%-25%, which is the bulk of our flights. It seems like the best candidate so far is still TK with their 100% earn rate on international K/L in Flex.
The main consideration is almost exclusively the ability to use points to book flights.
What is the burn rate (and rules) in ff miles, and cash co-payment if any.
FF miles/avios/points are not equal to earn or burn.
Even if many credit cards transfer to ffp's at the same rate. Now days many earn from non flying activities.
#2642
Join Date: Jul 2025
Posts: 10
One marked difference though is how much more availability AC releases to TK compared to Lifemiles. Take YUL-YVR, flights are available via TK almost every day, whereas Lifemiles barely get any.
#2643



Join Date: Sep 2025
Posts: 10
Looking for advices
(1) What is your home airport? NCE
(2) What types of fares do you usually buy ? Standard/ Not refundable
(3) How many miles do you usually fly each year? >50 k
(4) Do you have any kind of status at present? What is it? Almost lifetime plat ST, Ruby OW
(5) What is most important to you in a FFP? Price, choice of routes, comfort
(6) Which routes do you fly most often
East Asia, Japan, US, sometimes Oceania
(7) Preferred Airlines AC by necessity, other A or B are fine
(8) Do you travel for work or pleasure? Work but self-employed, savings matter
Thanks !
(2) What types of fares do you usually buy ? Standard/ Not refundable
(3) How many miles do you usually fly each year? >50 k
(4) Do you have any kind of status at present? What is it? Almost lifetime plat ST, Ruby OW
(5) What is most important to you in a FFP? Price, choice of routes, comfort
(6) Which routes do you fly most often
East Asia, Japan, US, sometimes Oceania
(7) Preferred Airlines AC by necessity, other A or B are fine
(8) Do you travel for work or pleasure? Work but self-employed, savings matter
Thanks !
Last edited by Fullface; Sep 19, 2025 at 9:11 pm Reason: Lisibility
#2644
FlyerTalk Evangelist




Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: BOS/EAP
Programs: UA 1K, AS MVP Gold, MR LTT, HH Dia, IHG Dia, Amex Plat
Posts: 37,468
(1) What is your home airport? NCE
(2) What types of fares do you usually buy ? Standard/ Not refundable
(3) How many miles do you usually fly each year? >50 k
(4) Do you have any kind of status at present? What is it? Almost lifetime plat ST, Ruby OW
(5) What is most important to you in a FFP? Price, choice of routes, comfort
(6) Which routes do you fly most often
East Asia, Japan, US, sometimes Oceania
(7) Preferred Airlines AC by necessity, other A or B are fine
(8) Do you travel for work or pleasure? Work but self-employed, savings matter
Thanks !
(2) What types of fares do you usually buy ? Standard/ Not refundable
(3) How many miles do you usually fly each year? >50 k
(4) Do you have any kind of status at present? What is it? Almost lifetime plat ST, Ruby OW
(5) What is most important to you in a FFP? Price, choice of routes, comfort
(6) Which routes do you fly most often
East Asia, Japan, US, sometimes Oceania
(7) Preferred Airlines AC by necessity, other A or B are fine
(8) Do you travel for work or pleasure? Work but self-employed, savings matter
Thanks !
#2645



Join Date: Sep 2025
Posts: 10
It's cheap fares in eco. If i was flying first i wouldn't really be looking at optimising my FF program.
Preferred airlines. Does it include out-of-alliance to compare, or in-alliance i already flew with ? Is it out of practicity or comfort ? ("i flew x and i liked it" ?).
Preferred airlines. Does it include out-of-alliance to compare, or in-alliance i already flew with ? Is it out of practicity or comfort ? ("i flew x and i liked it" ?).
#2646
FlyerTalk Evangelist


Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: MEL CHC
Posts: 22,932
(7) Preferred Airlines AC by necessity, other A or B are fine
It's cheap fares in eco. If i was flying first i wouldn't really be looking at optimising my FF program.
Preferred airlines. Does it include out-of-alliance to compare, or in-alliance i already flew with ? Is it out of practicity or comfort ? ("i flew x and i liked it" ?).
Preferred airlines. Does it include out-of-alliance to compare, or in-alliance i already flew with ? Is it out of practicity or comfort ? ("i flew x and i liked it" ?).

Some airlines can have out of alliance ff partners.
#2648
FlyerTalk Evangelist




Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: BOS/EAP
Programs: UA 1K, AS MVP Gold, MR LTT, HH Dia, IHG Dia, Amex Plat
Posts: 37,468
It's cheap fares in eco. If i was flying first i wouldn't really be looking at optimising my FF program.
Preferred airlines. Does it include out-of-alliance to compare, or in-alliance i already flew with ? Is it out of practicity or comfort ? ("i flew x and i liked it" ?).
Preferred airlines. Does it include out-of-alliance to compare, or in-alliance i already flew with ? Is it out of practicity or comfort ? ("i flew x and i liked it" ?).
o.k., so dirt cheap tickets? Cheapest Eco and most likely Eco light? That'll be tough ... > 50k miles, how much more than 50k?
You also haven't told us what you want from your FQTV program. What you have listed isn't related to that.
#2649



Join Date: Sep 2025
Posts: 10
I don't know how much more miles in terms of pure metrics. Count something like 10 trips to (East) Asia + Japan, 10 to US / Canada, 3-4 to Aus / NZ, random number in Europe per year.
As to what to expect from FQTV, Lounges as comfy as possible comes first. Rest i'd say based on my other program experiences, appreciate seat selection early, ability to fix issues if cancellations or delays without having to spend infinite time haggling, potentially rate of free upgrades, and miles that actually are usable for something. I don't care much about extra luggages.
Is that what you need ?
As to what to expect from FQTV, Lounges as comfy as possible comes first. Rest i'd say based on my other program experiences, appreciate seat selection early, ability to fix issues if cancellations or delays without having to spend infinite time haggling, potentially rate of free upgrades, and miles that actually are usable for something. I don't care much about extra luggages.
Is that what you need ?
#2650
FlyerTalk Evangelist




Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: BOS/EAP
Programs: UA 1K, AS MVP Gold, MR LTT, HH Dia, IHG Dia, Amex Plat
Posts: 37,468
I don't know how much more miles in terms of pure metrics. Count something like 10 trips to (East) Asia + Japan, 10 to US / Canada, 3-4 to Aus / NZ, random number in Europe per year.
As to what to expect from FQTV, Lounges as comfy as possible comes first. Rest i'd say based on my other program experiences, appreciate seat selection early, ability to fix issues if cancellations or delays without having to spend infinite time haggling, potentially rate of free upgrades, and miles that actually are usable for something. I don't care much about extra luggages.
Is that what you need ?
As to what to expect from FQTV, Lounges as comfy as possible comes first. Rest i'd say based on my other program experiences, appreciate seat selection early, ability to fix issues if cancellations or delays without having to spend infinite time haggling, potentially rate of free upgrades, and miles that actually are usable for something. I don't care much about extra luggages.
Is that what you need ?
Your expectations above are not expectations from an FQTV program, lounge comfort is operating carrier, seat selection is operating carrier, fixing issues is operating (or ticketing) carrier etc. Your FQTV programs gives you SAG status which allows you to enter any *A lounge when flying a *A carrier. So for example I have UA*G and I fly Swiss all the time and use their lounges - the two are very separate.
What you need to look into and think about are the airlines you wish to fly. You wrote LX, OS and NH - then there is some BR. You should also IMHO look into TK (good network, apparently o.k. in Y, very good lounges). The seat selection will be your biggest issue. *A does not have seat selection (like OW does) benefits and this is all on the operating carrier. As long as you avoid lite/basic fares then all airlines will allow (premium) seat selection for their own Elites - NOT for Elite members from other *A carriers - just not a benefit with *A.
The other thing you need to consider is access to contract lounges (like the one in NCE) which is NOT a *A benefit and not all carriers will allow access to such lounges. Most will, but some don't. So depending on your O/D this could be an important consideration.
As a general rule, as long as you avoid K-class with LHG airlines, you can get to a 50% distance earning. e.g. L-class on LX and OS will earn 50% with AC and UA. Assuming 250k miles flown in L-class you'd be e.g. getting pretty much to United 1K status (assuming you can swing 4 UA segments somewhere) and certainly some AC status as well (they are changing their rules next year - haven't gone to fully understand that yet). So e.g. of you went with UA, 250k miles gives 250k earned miles (50% plus 100% bonus on LHG or NH flights), 22500 PQP and therefor 1K status with 280 +Ps that can be used for things like upgrades, gifting status etc.
Now, that won't solve your advance seat selection problem with partner airlines - the only way to solve this is to fly the airline (group) you have status with. So get LH Sen status (which should be no problem with the many flights your take, assuming you have enough LX/OS flights to get to the qualifying points). Here your earnings on LHG fares will be based on EUR spent (so that's going to sting); other airlines will be distance based. LH Sen will give you access to 'some' UG vouchers, but e.g. less so than with UA.
My advice to you is - settle on a carrier for long-haul flights (with your flight pattern that is probably either LHG or TK) to get to seat selection in Y - and then go with that FQTV program for the better or worse. They all have pros and cons.
#2651


Join Date: Jul 2025
Programs: TK M&S E (*G), Hotels.com Silver
Posts: 402
A small addition to cfischer's detailed message, stick to a program until you become *G. Then if you're not happy with that airline try a status match to see if another airline works better for you.
Flying from/to NCE LH and TK are your best options. Unfortunately, IST is increasing the travel time when traveling to the States.
Considering M&M's latest updates for status validity (just 1 year so you've to keep the same tempo of flying every other year) I'd go with M&S.
Flying from/to NCE LH and TK are your best options. Unfortunately, IST is increasing the travel time when traveling to the States.
Considering M&M's latest updates for status validity (just 1 year so you've to keep the same tempo of flying every other year) I'd go with M&S.
#2654

Join Date: Mar 2025
Posts: 529
(1) What is your home airport? AMS/MAD/ZRH
(2) What types of fares do you usually buy ? Y/J, depends on pricing & company policy (tbd)
(3) How many miles do you usually fly each year? Quite a bit on non-*A, will now be doing approx 1300 every other week which I could do on LX for the foreseeable future and maybe some longhaul but that's rare on *A
(4) Do you have any kind of status at present? What is it? nothing at *A, would like to exclude status matching
(5) What is most important to you in a FFP? Lounge, fast security, good CS, redemptions, has to have a for-life programme
(6) Which routes do you fly most often intra Europe, to/from ZRH
(7) Preferred Airlines Almost all will be on LX, not necessarily preference just happens to serve those routes
(8) Do you travel for work or pleasure? mostly work
M&M would seem logical, but due to residence etc I can't get a M&M payment card.
Could transfer to M&S and TAP, but M&S (and A3) doesn't do lifetime and longhaul routes are usually direct and/or not *A
TAP should be taken over in the near future. Not necessarily a bad thing for me but feels like a bit of a gamble.
At the same time, AFKL/LHG integration could be nice but IAG probably wouldn't absorb the loyalty programme as with ITA & probably SAS soon.
In a similar vein, Asiana could be nice when also crediting ST to KE, but then running into the same payment card problem.
An alternative would be to keep doing ST/OW. The routes are also served by them, but often LX is simply cheaper and/or timing can work better.
Don't like to be wasting those miles & TPs haha
(2) What types of fares do you usually buy ? Y/J, depends on pricing & company policy (tbd)
(3) How many miles do you usually fly each year? Quite a bit on non-*A, will now be doing approx 1300 every other week which I could do on LX for the foreseeable future and maybe some longhaul but that's rare on *A
(4) Do you have any kind of status at present? What is it? nothing at *A, would like to exclude status matching
(5) What is most important to you in a FFP? Lounge, fast security, good CS, redemptions, has to have a for-life programme
(6) Which routes do you fly most often intra Europe, to/from ZRH
(7) Preferred Airlines Almost all will be on LX, not necessarily preference just happens to serve those routes
(8) Do you travel for work or pleasure? mostly work
M&M would seem logical, but due to residence etc I can't get a M&M payment card.
Could transfer to M&S and TAP, but M&S (and A3) doesn't do lifetime and longhaul routes are usually direct and/or not *A
TAP should be taken over in the near future. Not necessarily a bad thing for me but feels like a bit of a gamble.
At the same time, AFKL/LHG integration could be nice but IAG probably wouldn't absorb the loyalty programme as with ITA & probably SAS soon.
In a similar vein, Asiana could be nice when also crediting ST to KE, but then running into the same payment card problem.
An alternative would be to keep doing ST/OW. The routes are also served by them, but often LX is simply cheaper and/or timing can work better.
Don't like to be wasting those miles & TPs haha
#2655
FlyerTalk Evangelist




Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: BOS/EAP
Programs: UA 1K, AS MVP Gold, MR LTT, HH Dia, IHG Dia, Amex Plat
Posts: 37,468
With your parameters it will have to be LH M&M I am afraid. There are very few programs that still have LT status and most will then require to fly their own metal for LT status (e.g. all NA programs). If you think you can get M&M Sen status then that's probably your best bet. 1300 miles - but how many segments is that? Every other week so 25x a year. If that is 100 segments then no problem. Will be a long road to LT status - better also book some l/h flights 
Oh and the TAP program is terrible. OZ is going away, so that's not an option. You'll quickly run out of options.

Oh and the TAP program is terrible. OZ is going away, so that's not an option. You'll quickly run out of options.



