Pickpocket likely cased/targeted me for watch theft in Barcelona
#16
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It’s worth mentioning that I’ve lived in Spain several months per year for the last 15 years, and had very few problems. No matter where you live there are always attacks and robberies, you just need not to be foolish and adopt a careful and sensible perspective. As an old acquaintance once said to me he refused to have nice things that gave him pleasure and then keep everything under lock and key. If you think about it, we underestimate the risk of car accidents, and over estimate the probability of robbery. Drive carefully.
#17
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Two more nights here in Barcelona… on the first day, me and Mrs Adelphos walked through Gothic Quarter and Born (great neighborhoods) and happened upon a relatively empty block on the way to a restaurant. A kid walks up to me and asks (in broken English) “Where is cathedral?”
I keep walking and shake my head… he then asks
“Where you from?”
I say - America
I keep walking and shake my head… he then asks
“Where you from?”
I say - America
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Of course none of the Mexicans are fooled by this, but it often evokes a laugh and some will try to trick me by yelling in English.
A NYC favorite is to walk in a crazy manner and start yelling random phrases - the last thing a perp wants is to deal with an unpredictable crazy person.
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My personal fav is to pretend I am Russian, particularly in Mexico when approached by timeshare hacks, to wit: "No entiendo, soy Ruskie" This also work in France with "Je no ce pas France"
Of course none of the Mexicans are fooled by this, but it often evokes a laugh and some will try to trick me by yelling in English.
A NYC favorite is to walk in a crazy manner and start yelling random phrases - the last thing a perp wants is to deal with an unpredictable crazy person.
Of course none of the Mexicans are fooled by this, but it often evokes a laugh and some will try to trick me by yelling in English.
A NYC favorite is to walk in a crazy manner and start yelling random phrases - the last thing a perp wants is to deal with an unpredictable crazy person.
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Check out the Canary Islands, best weather not just in Spain but in all of Europe, and very low on crime.
#21
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Makes my stomach churn a little as I was headed to Barcelona to see how it was from the aspect of living there for 3-4 months a year. We enjoyed our last visit but that was just being a tourist. We checked out Valencia for a few weeks to see if we could live there, and it was very boring and slow. I just don't like the idea of having to be worried about getting robbed on a regular basis. I don't want to live in a heightened sense of alertness. I guess this is the trouble with some tourist heavy cities
#22
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So my vacation experience was I didn't find Barcelona to be any more crime ridden than any other large city. Maybe less so, to be honest, especially compared to cities in the US now. I dressed well, wore an expensive watch, and carrier a camera on my shoulder (not cross body or my neck even) everywhere I went.
So looking for somewhere like Munich or Vienna, but warmer lol.
We survived Barcelona no issues thankfully. But it wasn't a busy season for sure.
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Will check out Canary islands, I am in Vienna and quite enjoying it.. Except for the fact it says feels like -9c this morning.
So looking for somewhere like Munich or Vienna, but warmer lol.
We survived Barcelona no issues thankfully. But it wasn't a busy season for sure.
So looking for somewhere like Munich or Vienna, but warmer lol.
We survived Barcelona no issues thankfully. But it wasn't a busy season for sure.
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A NYC favorite is to walk in a crazy manner and start yelling random phrases - the last thing a perp wants is to deal with an unpredictable crazy person.
A NYC favorite is to walk in a crazy manner and start yelling random phrases - the last thing a perp wants is to deal with an unpredictable crazy person.
I was just in BCN for about four nights with relatives. I stressed to them not to take anything with them they didn’t need. I can promise you they were distracted looking in every window shop, loaded with shopping bags, and otherwise being aloof.
Thankfully no issues. They did see one young girl crying to the cops because her backpack was stolen.
As others have said, always be vigilant, and be wary of anyone getting too close and/or being too friendly.
#26
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FYI, A lot of pickpocketers are FEMALE, do not think it is just males.
If you are Asian (Japanese, Korean, Chinese, etc) They will target you as they know most likely you are tourists and come from "safe" countries, thus your guard is down.
If you are Asian (Japanese, Korean, Chinese, etc) They will target you as they know most likely you are tourists and come from "safe" countries, thus your guard is down.
#27
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I just got back from a couple of weeks in Spain and France and as a first timer I was hyper aware of presence of the presence of pickpockets especially riding crowded Barcelona and Paris trains. I never ever let my guard down whether I'm walking in downtown SF or I'm riding BART. In fact my personal rule in situations like BART, downtown SF, (or on this trip, Barcelona or Paris) is to never carry anything on the streets I wouldn't be willing to take a loss on. My iPhone, my Apple Watch, my credit cards, my Tesla key card are all items I'd quickly give up to a knife or gun wielding thief. Same goes for pickpockets, any of those items would be annoying to lose but it wouldn't put me at an unthinkable loss and they are ultimately replaceable. The only compromise I have to make is carrying my driver license which unfortunately would expose me to identity theft if stolen but it's a must to carry it.
This time during our trip though, the wife wanted to buy a nice handbag at the Chanel store in Paris. I was ok with doing that as long as it was store to taxi and back to hotel to leave bag. She decided that we should walk around for a few blocks and look for a cafe or restaurant after leaving the store. I was really paranoid because, although the neighborhood looked fine, I felt extremely vulnerable walking with a bag that says "I'm carrying something very expensive, come and take it!". This definitely was breaking my rule of not carrying anything I wouldn't be willing to take a loss on. Fortunately everything was uneventful
Same as others have said to OP, I just wouldn't carry valuables such as an expensive watch and I would always have my guard up. The reality is the situation is just deteriorating worldwide.
This time during our trip though, the wife wanted to buy a nice handbag at the Chanel store in Paris. I was ok with doing that as long as it was store to taxi and back to hotel to leave bag. She decided that we should walk around for a few blocks and look for a cafe or restaurant after leaving the store. I was really paranoid because, although the neighborhood looked fine, I felt extremely vulnerable walking with a bag that says "I'm carrying something very expensive, come and take it!". This definitely was breaking my rule of not carrying anything I wouldn't be willing to take a loss on. Fortunately everything was uneventful
Same as others have said to OP, I just wouldn't carry valuables such as an expensive watch and I would always have my guard up. The reality is the situation is just deteriorating worldwide.
#28
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I just got back from a couple of weeks in Spain and France and as a first timer I was hyper aware of presence of the presence of pickpockets especially riding crowded Barcelona and Paris trains. I never ever let my guard down whether I'm walking in downtown SF or I'm riding BART. In fact my personal rule in situations like BART, downtown SF, (or on this trip, Barcelona or Paris) is to never carry anything on the streets I wouldn't be willing to take a loss on. My iPhone, my Apple Watch, my credit cards, my Tesla key card are all items I'd quickly give up to a knife or gun wielding thief. Same goes for pickpockets, any of those items would be annoying to lose but it wouldn't put me at an unthinkable loss and they are ultimately replaceable. The only compromise I have to make is carrying my driver license which unfortunately would expose me to identity theft if stolen but it's a must to carry it.
This time during our trip though, the wife wanted to buy a nice handbag at the Chanel store in Paris. I was ok with doing that as long as it was store to taxi and back to hotel to leave bag. She decided that we should walk around for a few blocks and look for a cafe or restaurant after leaving the store. I was really paranoid because, although the neighborhood looked fine, I felt extremely vulnerable walking with a bag that says "I'm carrying something very expensive, come and take it!". This definitely was breaking my rule of not carrying anything I wouldn't be willing to take a loss on. Fortunately everything was uneventful
Same as others have said to OP, I just wouldn't carry valuables such as an expensive watch and I would always have my guard up. The reality is the situation is just deteriorating worldwide.
This time during our trip though, the wife wanted to buy a nice handbag at the Chanel store in Paris. I was ok with doing that as long as it was store to taxi and back to hotel to leave bag. She decided that we should walk around for a few blocks and look for a cafe or restaurant after leaving the store. I was really paranoid because, although the neighborhood looked fine, I felt extremely vulnerable walking with a bag that says "I'm carrying something very expensive, come and take it!". This definitely was breaking my rule of not carrying anything I wouldn't be willing to take a loss on. Fortunately everything was uneventful
Same as others have said to OP, I just wouldn't carry valuables such as an expensive watch and I would always have my guard up. The reality is the situation is just deteriorating worldwide.
#29
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Yes, pickpockets in Europe can be a problem, but they are very rarely violent. The goal is to be away before you're even noticed so if you keep watch over your stuff, that's plenty. It would be extraordinary for someone to use a weapon to mug someone like in the US. The reason being that basically nothing will happen for small theft and pickpocketing but police will actually investigate and judgest will sentence if there's a weapon involved so it's dumb from the criminal's POV to escalate as the risk/reward gets far less favorable.
#30
Join Date: Jul 2014
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Two more nights here in Barcelona… on the first day, me and Mrs Adelphos walked through Gothic Quarter and Born (great neighborhoods) and happened upon a relatively empty block on the way to a restaurant. A kid walks up to me and asks (in broken English) “Where is cathedral?”
I keep walking and shake my head… he then asks
“Where you from?”
I say - America
He the says “America!!! Hi Five!” And holds his right arm out to the left side of my body…
I roll my eyes, and while still walking briskly, give him a very quick slap on the hand with my left to get him away.
He then says “Hi Five Again!”
At this point, I get annoyed, stare him down and just increase my pace and keep walking. He kind of smirks and stands still as I pass him.
A block or two later, me and Mrs Adelphos realize what he/they were trying to do - get my left arm exposed long enough so he and maybe a buddy could grab the watch off my arm. Luckily I am a good bit larger/likely stronger than the kid who approached me - otherwise he may have attempted it on the first “Hi Five!”
Moral of the story - be wary of watch theft, especially in Europe and increasingly in America. Keep an eye on your watch, and if you plan to be out drinking very late, leave it in the safe
I keep walking and shake my head… he then asks
“Where you from?”
I say - America
He the says “America!!! Hi Five!” And holds his right arm out to the left side of my body…
I roll my eyes, and while still walking briskly, give him a very quick slap on the hand with my left to get him away.
He then says “Hi Five Again!”
At this point, I get annoyed, stare him down and just increase my pace and keep walking. He kind of smirks and stands still as I pass him.
A block or two later, me and Mrs Adelphos realize what he/they were trying to do - get my left arm exposed long enough so he and maybe a buddy could grab the watch off my arm. Luckily I am a good bit larger/likely stronger than the kid who approached me - otherwise he may have attempted it on the first “Hi Five!”
Moral of the story - be wary of watch theft, especially in Europe and increasingly in America. Keep an eye on your watch, and if you plan to be out drinking very late, leave it in the safe