Same-Day Standby Expanded
Aug 24, 2023, 12:41 am
#46
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 204
So I'm seeing that you can add yourself to the standby list through the app?
When do these clear? Like, can you standby for an earlier flight with checked bags or will that cause problems? What about companions on a companion pass?
I assume these may still be reasons to value confirmed same day changes but this really cuts the value down from WGA+. I guess they were hoping to sell a lot of WGA+ but there weren't many takers? I remember a lot of WGA+ fares costing $30 more when it first launched but the fare difference is now often only $10 or $20 for these same routes.
When do these clear? Like, can you standby for an earlier flight with checked bags or will that cause problems? What about companions on a companion pass?
I assume these may still be reasons to value confirmed same day changes but this really cuts the value down from WGA+. I guess they were hoping to sell a lot of WGA+ but there weren't many takers? I remember a lot of WGA+ fares costing $30 more when it first launched but the fare difference is now often only $10 or $20 for these same routes.
Aug 24, 2023, 7:52 am
#47
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Aug 24, 2023, 7:53 am
#48
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So I'm seeing that you can add yourself to the standby list through the app?
When do these clear? Like, can you standby for an earlier flight with checked bags or will that cause problems? What about companions on a companion pass?
I assume these may still be reasons to value confirmed same day changes but this really cuts the value down from WGA+. I guess they were hoping to sell a lot of WGA+ but there weren't many takers? I remember a lot of WGA+ fares costing $30 more when it first launched but the fare difference is now often only $10 or $20 for these same routes.
When do these clear? Like, can you standby for an earlier flight with checked bags or will that cause problems? What about companions on a companion pass?
I assume these may still be reasons to value confirmed same day changes but this really cuts the value down from WGA+. I guess they were hoping to sell a lot of WGA+ but there weren't many takers? I remember a lot of WGA+ fares costing $30 more when it first launched but the fare difference is now often only $10 or $20 for these same routes.
Aug 24, 2023, 8:24 am
#50
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: ATL
Posts: 1,924
Same Day Change: You get an actual boarding posting for the other flight, say C-20, so you're definitely on that other flight
Same Day Standby: Your on a list for another flight and "might" get on that flight, might not, wouldn't know until later. But you're still assigned to your original flight.
Same Day Standby: Your on a list for another flight and "might" get on that flight, might not, wouldn't know until later. But you're still assigned to your original flight.
Aug 24, 2023, 9:43 am
#51
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: SFO
Posts: 3,881
FWIW, re rule in post #20, that's from a 2022 press release. The recent press release does not include same day standby "prior to original flight" language.
https://swamedia.com/releases/releas...usiness-select
Aug 24, 2023, 10:11 am
#52
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 1
Thanks @Brian M I’m super torn about how to handle this.
I booked a 7p flight but circumstances changed and I want to fly out at 9a. I am traveling with a companion
the flight is in a week, so the price is 20k more points
Obviously, I don’t wanna go to the airport so early without any reason if I cannot get on the earlier flight.
Do I have to cancel the companion’s ticket and then list for standby for the primary? If confirmed, then I can add them? But it cannot be too close to departure, right?
has anyone dealt with this in the past?
thank you
I booked a 7p flight but circumstances changed and I want to fly out at 9a. I am traveling with a companion
the flight is in a week, so the price is 20k more points
Obviously, I don’t wanna go to the airport so early without any reason if I cannot get on the earlier flight.
Do I have to cancel the companion’s ticket and then list for standby for the primary? If confirmed, then I can add them? But it cannot be too close to departure, right?
has anyone dealt with this in the past?
thank you
Aug 24, 2023, 10:24 am
#53
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#1 CONCERN ---
don't forget, there has to be a seat. Seems obvious, but I think we sometimes forget that. Seems like most of the flights these days are full, so...
don't forget, there has to be a seat. Seems obvious, but I think we sometimes forget that. Seems like most of the flights these days are full, so...
Aug 24, 2023, 10:50 am
#54
Join Date: Jan 2010
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That's exactly my situation described in my prior post but you said it was a same day change.
FWIW, re rule in post #20, that's from a 2022 press release. The recent press release does not include same day standby "prior to original flight" language.
https://swamedia.com/releases/releas...usiness-select
FWIW, re rule in post #20, that's from a 2022 press release. The recent press release does not include same day standby "prior to original flight" language.
https://swamedia.com/releases/releas...usiness-select
Aug 24, 2023, 10:52 am
#55
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That's exactly my situation described in my prior post but you said it was a same day change.
FWIW, re rule in post #20, that's from a 2022 press release. The recent press release does not include same day standby "prior to original flight" language.
https://swamedia.com/releases/releas...usiness-select
FWIW, re rule in post #20, that's from a 2022 press release. The recent press release does not include same day standby "prior to original flight" language.
https://swamedia.com/releases/releas...usiness-select
The only way to get on stand-by for a later flight is to simply not show up and invoke the flat tire rule ( I assume it still exists ). But you are in the same situation. You may or may not fly today and it could be days before you do fly.
Aug 24, 2023, 10:59 am
#56
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And good catch on the removal of the "earlier flight" requirement in the new Standby language.
So let's say your original flight departs at Noon, and you get on the standby list for an 8pm flight. Noon approaches and you haven't been cleared for the 8pm flight, what next?:
A) Get on the original Noon flight
B) No-show?
So let's say your original flight departs at Noon, and you get on the standby list for an 8pm flight. Noon approaches and you haven't been cleared for the 8pm flight, what next?:
A) Get on the original Noon flight
B) No-show?
Aug 24, 2023, 11:05 am
#57
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: SFO
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And good catch on the removal of the "earlier flight" requirement in the new Standby language.
So let's say your original flight departs at Noon, and you get on the standby list for an 8pm flight. Noon approaches and you haven't been cleared for the 8pm flight, what next?:
A) Get on the original Noon flight
B) No-show?
So let's say your original flight departs at Noon, and you get on the standby list for an 8pm flight. Noon approaches and you haven't been cleared for the 8pm flight, what next?:
A) Get on the original Noon flight
B) No-show?
Aug 24, 2023, 11:10 am
#58
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: SFO
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This is no different than stand by has always been. If there are a lot of open seats, they will skip the entire stand-by procedure and give you a confirmed seat. If there are not a lot of seats, then you are on stand-by. They will not put you on stand-by for a later flight and you do not want to be on stand by for a later seat, because there is a significant possibility that you simply will not fly. What happens then ? It could be days before a stand-by seat opens up.
The only way to get on stand-by for a later flight is to simply not show up and invoke the flat tire rule ( I assume it still exists ). But you are in the same situation. You may or may not fly today and it could be days before you do fly.
The only way to get on stand-by for a later flight is to simply not show up and invoke the flat tire rule ( I assume it still exists ). But you are in the same situation. You may or may not fly today and it could be days before you do fly.
To be clear, I'm talking about the new standby policy where "earlier flight" requirement appears to removed.
Aug 24, 2023, 11:17 am
#59
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: ATL
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One way to find out. I just booked ATL-MDW at 4:10pm for today with points. Then in the app I first had to check in, then was able to be added to the standby list for the 7:15pm later flight, got the below confirmation that I'm on standby for the later flight:
Aug 24, 2023, 11:19 am
#60
Join Date: Sep 2015
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Thanks for confirming! So the 7:15pm flight was full, and thus the standby?