Pre Boarding

Old May 16, 2023, 7:07 am
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Pre Boarding

I really need to shoot a documentary on the SWA pre board circus and its miraculous healing abilities. What other airline do you need a wheelchair to board and become a Olympic sprinter at the destination.?
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Old May 16, 2023, 7:48 am
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The "pre-board" and "service dog" thing is out of control.

And really no good answers.
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Old May 16, 2023, 9:21 am
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"Another miracle flight!"

FA to unneeded wheeler chair Attendants in the jetway at the end of ISP-MCO a few years back.

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Old May 17, 2023, 6:55 am
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I would mandate pre boarders sit in the back of the plane
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Old May 17, 2023, 8:56 am
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Originally Posted by Blitzjb
I would mandate pre boarders sit in the back of the plane
I love the idea, but the reality of many of the "real" preboarders is that they have trouble walking very far. And if a wheelchair, getting to the back of the plane would take a long time.
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Old May 17, 2023, 9:26 am
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Anyone see a distinction between "Medical" preboards and "Extra Time" preboarders?

My specific seating need is that I am physically incapable of climbing over other passengers.
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Old May 17, 2023, 12:51 pm
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Originally Posted by LegalTender
Anyone see a distinction between "Medical" preboards and "Extra Time" preboarders? My specific seating need is that I am physically incapable of climbing over other passengers.
WN makes that distinction. Medical Preboards, which include specific seating needs, board prior to A1. eXtra Time "preboards" board after A-60.
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Old May 18, 2023, 6:49 am
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If they had to sit at the back - they would not fake it and need to pre board
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Old May 18, 2023, 6:49 am
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It seems lately that all of the pre boarders - real and fake are boarding 1st.
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Old May 18, 2023, 3:39 pm
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This is the single dumbest thing SW does. Make them sit in the back and no one will preboard unless they absolutely need to. No other airline has 10 people in wheelchairs, 15 families, and and 5 random people with "medical issues" that get to board before everyone on every flight. A30 might as well be C at this point.

Board these people first if you must but put them in the last 10 rows.
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Old May 18, 2023, 7:35 pm
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Originally Posted by Slothtastic
This is the single dumbest thing SW does. Make them sit in the back and no one will preboard unless they absolutely need to. No other airline has 10 people in wheelchairs, 15 families, and and 5 random people with "medical issues" that get to board before everyone on every flight. A30 might as well be C at this point. Board these people first if you must but put them in the last 10 rows.
WN is required to comply with federal law 14 CFR 382.85 (b):

On flights where advance seat assignments are not offered, you must provide seating accommodations under this section by allowing passengers to board the aircraft before other passengers, including other preboarded passengers, so that the individuals needing seating accommodations can select seats that best meet their needs.
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Old May 18, 2023, 7:48 pm
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Originally Posted by Tanic
WN is required to comply with federal law 14 CFR 382.85 (b):
Then put them in the back of the plane. Remove the "benefit" and watch how few people actually use this service. And the ones that still truly need it will have a far better time on their flight without being marginalized by entitled people.
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Old May 19, 2023, 7:49 am
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Apparently, throughs are not considered "other preboarded passengers" under the law. Nor do "seats that best suit their needs" include rows with extra legroom.

Disabled passengers should refuse to fly.
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Old May 20, 2023, 2:43 pm
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Originally Posted by Blitzjb
I really need to shoot a documentary on the SWA pre board circus and its miraculous healing abilities. What other airline do you need a wheelchair to board and become a Olympic sprinter at the destination.?
I've seen the exact opposite occur on international flights where there is a long walk to customs. I came off a Turkish flight at IAD that had 45 wheelchairs waiting (I counted... they were all the way up the jetway and down the sterile corridor).

When I was an airline station manager, I took part in a wheelchair/disabled passengers task force at a major airport. Per the statistics from Open Doors Organization itself (advocacy for disabled travelers), EIGHTY PERCENT of people who use a wheelchair in the airport do not require one for their daily life.

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Old May 21, 2023, 6:30 am
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Originally Posted by JAXPax
I've seen the exact opposite occur on international flights where there is a long walk to customs. I came off a Turkish flight at IAD that had 45 wheelchairs waiting (I counted... they were all the way up the jetway and down the sterile corridor).

When I was an airline station manager, I took part in a wheelchair/disabled passengers task force at a major airport. Per the statistics from Open Doors Organization itself (advocacy for disabled travelers), EIGHTY PERCENT of people who use a wheelchair in the airport do not require one for their daily life.
It's that long walk thing. I know plenty of folks who don't use wheelchairs at home but to get from the curb to the counter to a distant gate is a much longer distance than they walk on a regular basis. And the return with waiting at baggage claim and if it's international add all that walking/standing, I am not surprised at all by that figure.

You'll get old one day and maybe not be amazed at what older folks can and cannot do.
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