Filling Middie Seats Starting 12/1
#151
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: RNO
Programs: AA/DL/UA
Posts: 10,775
It's about time. Flying a plane with 1/3 of the seats empty is uneconomical. It also means you're still less than 6 feet away from someone else. The only way to please the scaredy cats is to spend even more time boarding and deplaning, 12 feet between passengers, and 5/6th (83%) empty, not 1/3 -- window, empty row, aisle, empty row, window, empty row, aisle, empty row, etc.
The studies showed that coronavirus transmission on a plane is incredibly unlikely. If you're that scared and you choose to drive instead, your risk of death or injury go way, way up because of the vastly higher crash risk in a car.
The studies showed that coronavirus transmission on a plane is incredibly unlikely. If you're that scared and you choose to drive instead, your risk of death or injury go way, way up because of the vastly higher crash risk in a car.
#152
Join Date: Oct 2016
Posts: 3,705
It's about time. Flying a plane with 1/3 of the seats empty is uneconomical. It also means you're still less than 6 feet away from someone else. The only way to please the scaredy cats is to spend even more time boarding and deplaning, 12 feet between passengers, and 5/6th (83%) empty, not 1/3 -- window, empty row, aisle, empty row, window, empty row, aisle, empty row, etc.
The studies showed that coronavirus transmission on a plane is incredibly unlikely. If you're that scared and you choose to drive instead, your risk of death or injury go way, way up because of the vastly higher crash risk in a car.
The studies showed that coronavirus transmission on a plane is incredibly unlikely. If you're that scared and you choose to drive instead, your risk of death or injury go way, way up because of the vastly higher crash risk in a car.
#153
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Pittsburgh
Programs: Whoever Has the Best Bonus
Posts: 5,183
So if your flight 'looks full' Southwest tells you three days in advance... I assume changing to another flight is based on typical Southwest rules (ie fares are higher closer to takeoff) but no special change rules like when the schedule changes and let's you change to any flight in a 30 day window?
#154
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Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: LAX
Posts: 10,909
With us entry requiring tests and overall number of infections at all time high the chances of ending up close to someone infected on domestic route especially to warmer destination is more significant now. Don't want to end up shoulder to shoulder with some passive aggressive non-believer who will pretend to gnaw on pack of pretzels without mask for the duration of flight.
Booked AS in december and DL this quarter - gonna take advantage of empty middles as long as possible under the circumstances. There are no guarantees but those measures add up. YMMV.
Booked AS in december and DL this quarter - gonna take advantage of empty middles as long as possible under the circumstances. There are no guarantees but those measures add up. YMMV.
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#156
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Pittsburgh
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#157
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 1,868
Lol, my other half is a big guy, but not quite that big. I've legit thought about having him give it a go but I'd much rather just buy a darned extra seat.
#158
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Blue Ridge, GA
Posts: 5,512
#159
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 1,353
Plus I believe Southwest actually refunds COS extra seats after travel even if the plane was otherwise full; that might create some complications sorting out different types of extra-seats after the fact.
But yes, right now for those of us who would only fly if not cheek to cheek with another person, other airlines are a better choice (DL with "free" middle for now, UA/AA/others allow anyone to buy an extra seat). And yes, I know 2 feet isn't 6 feet, but it's also not 6 inches.
#160
Join Date: Aug 2009
Programs: Delta Diamond 1MM, Marriott Plat
Posts: 503
Thanks again to those of you who helped me avoid other human beings. Turns out my flight was very empty and just about everyone scored their own row. Not a bad ending.
I found safety to be quite lax compared to Delta. I brought my own Purell wipes and scrubbed the row. And, the somewhat...snarky? aggressive? frustrated? exasperated? mask announcements from gate and flight folks seemed to imply that Southwest has frequent problems with mask refusers but my trip was without incident. I enjoyed the sealed snack mix bag, and declined the unprotected cup of free-poured "ice water", and lived to tell about it.
Enjoy your travels, Southwest flyers!
#161
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 1,332
Ouch, somebody takes this forum too seriously. Though certainly not for the first time. Mwah, @toomanybooks.
Thanks again to those of you who helped me avoid other human beings. Turns out my flight was very empty and just about everyone scored their own row. Not a bad ending.
I found safety to be quite lax compared to Delta. I brought my own Purell wipes and scrubbed the row. And, the somewhat...snarky? aggressive? frustrated? exasperated? mask announcements from gate and flight folks seemed to imply that Southwest has frequent problems with mask refusers but my trip was without incident. I enjoyed the sealed snack mix bag, and declined the unprotected cup of free-poured "ice water", and lived to tell about it.
Enjoy your travels, Southwest flyers!
Thanks again to those of you who helped me avoid other human beings. Turns out my flight was very empty and just about everyone scored their own row. Not a bad ending.
I found safety to be quite lax compared to Delta. I brought my own Purell wipes and scrubbed the row. And, the somewhat...snarky? aggressive? frustrated? exasperated? mask announcements from gate and flight folks seemed to imply that Southwest has frequent problems with mask refusers but my trip was without incident. I enjoyed the sealed snack mix bag, and declined the unprotected cup of free-poured "ice water", and lived to tell about it.
Enjoy your travels, Southwest flyers!
#162
Join Date: Aug 2009
Programs: Delta Diamond 1MM, Marriott Plat
Posts: 503
I suppose, in a begrudging nod to the mask refusers – the (dare I say, atrocious) odor had no trouble permeating my face covering and quickly made its way into my nose.