U.S. Domestic Passenger Flights Could Virtually Shut Down
Mar 30, 2020, 8:33 am
#32
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When the airline is not at fault:[/QUOTE]
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That is when the airline cannot fly not when they choose not to fly for financial reasons. Having an insufficient passenger load isn't such a reason. If the airport were closed for a blizzard, hurricane, an air traffic control issue or a government ordered shutdown then this would apply.
Mar 30, 2020, 8:47 am
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That is when the airline cannot fly not when they choose not to fly for financial reasons. Having an insufficient passenger load isn't such a reason. If the airport were closed for a blizzard, hurricane, an air traffic control issue or a government ordered shutdown then this would apply.
Mar 30, 2020, 9:14 am
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Mar 30, 2020, 10:33 am
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Mar 30, 2020, 10:44 am
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Ah, that's not the following paragraph on the page I quoted.
I'd respond by pasting the same paragraph again that I posted quote a few posts above.
I suppose you're welcome to rely on whichever conflicting paragraph you want, but I'm inclined to rely on the one that specifically says I am due a refund.
I'd respond by pasting the same paragraph again that I posted quote a few posts above.
I suppose you're welcome to rely on whichever conflicting paragraph you want, but I'm inclined to rely on the one that specifically says I am due a refund.
Mar 30, 2020, 1:30 pm
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Mar 30, 2020, 1:35 pm
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Only some cancellation choices are sorta of compelled. There is no restriction on flying into ATL MSY or any of the others as far as I can tell. Those restrictions also don't generally apply to all passengers. Residents appear to be exempt.
Mar 30, 2020, 4:01 pm
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It's the same question right now. This is the WN forum, so we're primarily talking about domestic flights. To my knowledge, except for a few scenarios like NY/NJ to FL, the government has not prohibited domestic flights. If WN chooses to cancel a flight that they are otherwise legally and operationally allowed to fly, then they are indeed "at fault" for that decision and must, in accordance with the DOT rules, offer a cash refund.
Mar 30, 2020, 4:11 pm
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If airlines are operating with social distancing rules now and in the future, wouldn't they need to raise fares significantly, because their planes would only be 1/4th full? I'm assuming RR points would also be devalued too, as a way to cut costs.
Mar 30, 2020, 4:19 pm
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Social distancing or not ... the uncertainty in airfares is another reason travelers shouldn't let airlines off the hook. If I'm on a budget and found a $100 fare to see my aunt, there's nothing to guarantee I'll see that same fare ever again. Why should the traveler have to shell out additional money on top of the credit with no recourse to get what (s)he originally purchased? That's not right, either.