Curb Check-In Agent Tracks Down My Friend for Not Tipping. Is this Common?
#61
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For the record... I am the OP and my buddy assumed that the people at curbside were Southwest employees, just like the people inside at the Southwest counter. In his defense, it is not evidently clear. There is no sign saying “we work for tips”. I’d also be curious to know if these guys make an hourly wage, by whom, and if it’s above minimum.
I rarely chedk bags but if I do at curbside, I give $5 but I don’t think it’s 100% clear that tipping in mandatory. Tracking him down in the security line is a little much. Also curious how this arose after 2.5 years.
I rarely chedk bags but if I do at curbside, I give $5 but I don’t think it’s 100% clear that tipping in mandatory. Tracking him down in the security line is a little much. Also curious how this arose after 2.5 years.
The other skycap that informed me about hs co-worker's firing, said that I could google "skycap ask for tip" and i would see how people feel that they don't need to tip, I did and 2.5 years later I landed here
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For the record... I am the OP and my buddy assumed that the people at curbside were Southwest employees, just like the people inside at the Southwest counter. In his defense, it is not evidently clear. There is no sign saying “we work for tips”. I’d also be curious to know if these guys make an hourly wage, by whom, and if it’s above minimum.
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I am not sure if I have ever used curbside check int, but I always thought that it was just an extension of the counter from inside the terminal. I never tip agents at the counter and therefore I would never tip at curbside check in.
As others have said, going inside is usually faster anyways.
As others have said, going inside is usually faster anyways.
#65
Join Date: Apr 2019
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I am not sure if I have ever used curbside check int, but I always thought that it was just an extension of the counter from inside the terminal. I never tip agents at the counter and therefore I would never tip at curbside check in.
As others have said, going inside is usually faster anyways.
As others have said, going inside is usually faster anyways.
I remember a joke that a pilot told me at Dulles, he said,"How can you tell that your near an airport? "How "
I asked, he said" the increased number of ---holes in the area"
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#66
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Personal example, I checked into the Palazzo in Vegas a couple weeks ago. Room wasn't ready, the front desk clerk said I could take my bags to the valet & they will put it in storage for me. I walked over, stood in line with other people doing the same thing, saw around 5 people pass over their bags & get their ticket. No questions asked. I didn't see a single tip passed throughout this time. When I needed my bag, I went down & grabbed it. Once again friendly experience, I didn't see a single person pass tips & genuinely felt it wasn't expected either.
Couple days after, I switched over the Bellagio. Same thing, Got their early, was told to pass bags to Valet. I went up, passed over my bag & had a friendly conversation with the guy tagging it for me. He said someone else would bring it up to my room once my room number was assigned & then said something along the lines of, We are all independent workers here, thanks for letting me help you... I said thank you very politely and walked away. When I turned my back he muttered something I couldn't quite comprehend but it didn't sound friendly.... A couple seconds after that it clicked... His "we are independent workers" is code for, tip me. I genuinely had no clue as past experiences for me are, tip the guy that brings my bag all the way up to my room. But don't worry about tipping the guy that tags it and throws it in a storage room. Obviously after he said something in my eyes as rude I wasn't going to walk back and tip him then. As I was naive to what was expected, I don't find myself having poor ethics or justifying anything. The front desk clerks told me to pass my bags over, I did so. For the guy that came and delivered my bags all the way up to my room. I tipped accordingly.
#67
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How is it poor ethics or bad manners if someone didn't know tipping was necessary? It's a logical thought to think the curbside check in is just an extension of the inside counter. However, if they come to the understanding that it is indeed not a simple extension & still choose not to tip, that is another story.
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This thread was three years old... but since it is back and alive.
I fly LOTS and never use curbside checkin. Especially there days with the easy to use kiosks. I just never understood the long lines out front vs just taking it inside.
Oh well.. I do not understand lots of other things either.
I fly LOTS and never use curbside checkin. Especially there days with the easy to use kiosks. I just never understood the long lines out front vs just taking it inside.
Oh well.. I do not understand lots of other things either.
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That said, it should be known that these employees are usually paid minimum wage by a third-party contractor and tips are in fact expected to make up the rest of their salary. If you can't give at least $1 per bag, you should go inside and check your bags at the ticket counter where tips are not expected.
#70
Join Date: Apr 2019
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If you are unaware of said policy, and are made aware by the employee, is that employee wrong for saying so?
I've seen people checking curbside, see several others tip and say dumb stuff like, "I don't carry cash" or "I don't have any change" when they are made aware of the difference between inside/outside checking.
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The self-check lines indoors at MDW can be horrible at certain times, though, such as before 6AM when there are a lot of flights. Fortunately I usually don't have to check a bag!
#72
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If they're wearing Southwest uniforms they are Southwest employees. Very few stations that have them. They are Southwest CSA's. Southwest isn't going to let anyone wear their branding that isn't employed by them.
#73
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Then you go the US where some airline employees (or people in airline uniforms) are not employees and work off tips but only if they accept bags outside at the airline counter but not if the accept bags inside at the airline counter. The entire system is messed up.
That said, I can't think of another country in the world that even has curbside baggage. This is quite unique to US airlines. Is there any other country that even does this?
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#74
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LOL I've never used curbside check in besides the one time the AA counters at BDL happened to be closed for a couple of hours so it was worth the tip. Every time I go inside no matter the airport and no matter the line I am always able to check my bags in just fine, but maybe that's because I show up pretty early as well.
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Just as a data point, the Alaska curbside agents at SAN are AS employees and not a tipped position.
I agree that it can be confusing. However, if the skycap really did chase down a customer for failure to tip, the skycap was out of line.
I agree that it can be confusing. However, if the skycap really did chase down a customer for failure to tip, the skycap was out of line.