FA's standing in exit row during boarding
May 13, 2013, 10:01 pm
#16
Join Date: Jul 2001
Posts: 3,975
Welcome to FT. Going over what's been said numerous times:
A1-15 reserved for Business Select and people who've paid $40 to get into unused spots in those numbers
A-list Preferred
A-list
People who've bought EarlyBird checkin, with Anytime fares based on time of EBCI purchase
Other EBCI buyers, based on time of EBCI purchase
People who've checked in 24 hours before the first flight on their itinerary, so people connecting A-B-C have a head start on people originating at B. These are in order of time of online checkin.
That, based on memory, gives the basics on how the numbers are determined. For how people actually board (if the rules are followed), add that people who are authorized to preboard go before A1, and families with children under 5, if they didn't get A passes, board between groups A and B.
A1-15 reserved for Business Select and people who've paid $40 to get into unused spots in those numbers
A-list Preferred
A-list
People who've bought EarlyBird checkin, with Anytime fares based on time of EBCI purchase
Other EBCI buyers, based on time of EBCI purchase
People who've checked in 24 hours before the first flight on their itinerary, so people connecting A-B-C have a head start on people originating at B. These are in order of time of online checkin.
That, based on memory, gives the basics on how the numbers are determined. For how people actually board (if the rules are followed), add that people who are authorized to preboard go before A1, and families with children under 5, if they didn't get A passes, board between groups A and B.
May 15, 2013, 7:12 pm
#17
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 3
Welcome to FT. Going over what's been said numerous times:
A1-15 reserved for Business Select and people who've paid $40 to get into unused spots in those numbers
A-list Preferred
A-list
People who've bought EarlyBird checkin, with Anytime fares based on time of EBCI purchase
Other EBCI buyers, based on time of EBCI purchase
People who've checked in 24 hours before the first flight on their itinerary, so people connecting A-B-C have a head start on people originating at B. These are in order of time of online checkin.
That, based on memory, gives the basics on how the numbers are determined. For how people actually board (if the rules are followed), add that people who are authorized to preboard go before A1, and families with children under 5, if they didn't get A passes, board between groups A and B.
A1-15 reserved for Business Select and people who've paid $40 to get into unused spots in those numbers
A-list Preferred
A-list
People who've bought EarlyBird checkin, with Anytime fares based on time of EBCI purchase
Other EBCI buyers, based on time of EBCI purchase
People who've checked in 24 hours before the first flight on their itinerary, so people connecting A-B-C have a head start on people originating at B. These are in order of time of online checkin.
That, based on memory, gives the basics on how the numbers are determined. For how people actually board (if the rules are followed), add that people who are authorized to preboard go before A1, and families with children under 5, if they didn't get A passes, board between groups A and B.
May 15, 2013, 11:09 pm
#18
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: PDX
Posts: 469
I was on a flight previously where an FA was standing in the exit row I was sitting at (had window seat), and another individual was sitting in the aisle. Not a single person boarding the flight decided to take the middle exit row seat with the flight attendant standing in front of it. I'd never seen that before...it was to a leisure destination full of inexperienced flyers, but I was still shocked.
May 15, 2013, 11:20 pm
#19
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 4,872
I was on a flight previously where an FA was standing in the exit row I was sitting at (had window seat), and another individual was sitting in the aisle. Not a single person boarding the flight decided to take the middle exit row seat with the flight attendant standing in front of it. I'd never seen that before...it was to a leisure destination full of inexperienced flyers, but I was still shocked.
May 15, 2013, 11:27 pm
#20
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May 16, 2013, 7:27 am
#21
Join Date: Oct 2001
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Posts: 8,700
I was on a flight previously where an FA was standing in the exit row I was sitting at (had window seat), and another individual was sitting in the aisle. Not a single person boarding the flight decided to take the middle exit row seat with the flight attendant standing in front of it. I'd never seen that before...it was to a leisure destination full of inexperienced flyers, but I was still shocked.
May 16, 2013, 8:03 am
#22
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Nashville, TN
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Welcome to FT. Going over what's been said numerous times:
A1-15 reserved for Business Select and people who've paid $40 to get into unused spots in those numbers..... etc.
That, based on memory, gives the basics on how the numbers are determined. For how people actually board (if the rules are followed), add that people who are authorized to preboard go before A1, and families with children under 5, if they didn't get A passes, board between groups A and B.
A1-15 reserved for Business Select and people who've paid $40 to get into unused spots in those numbers..... etc.
That, based on memory, gives the basics on how the numbers are determined. For how people actually board (if the rules are followed), add that people who are authorized to preboard go before A1, and families with children under 5, if they didn't get A passes, board between groups A and B.
1. People already on the plane or throughs.
1a. On a long stop, throughs that got off the plane
1b. All of the throughs for an equipment change.
2. Preboards which includes:2a. People needing extra time to board due to physical limitations
2b. People that lie to get the Blue Sleeve
2c. COS
2d. UM's
2e. Certain LEO's
2f. Newspeople with large camera equipment
2g. People with cellos or other large musical instruments
2h. Jump seat passengers
3. Business select4. People that paid the $40 to jump between A List preferred and BS
5. People that jump the line between BS and A+ and are not stopped by OA
6. A-list Preferred
7. A-List
6a-7a Notable exception: SEB's.
8. Early Birds8a. Notable exception 1: Family boarding between A60 and B1
8b. Notable exception 2: A list that bought last minute holding a dreaded C, between A60 and B1
8c. Notable exception 3: Any low number person with a short connection that gets there after their number would have boarded.
9. All remainder now board in number order.10. VDB's waiting to VDB that get a seat anyway and have to board.
11. Stand-bys
Last edited by InkUnderNails; May 17, 2013 at 8:42 am Reason: Minor typo
May 29, 2014, 9:27 pm
#25
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 9
Welcome to FT. Going over what's been said numerous times:
A1-15 reserved for Business Select and people who've paid $40 to get into unused spots in those numbers
A-list Preferred
A-list
People who've bought EarlyBird checkin, with Anytime fares based on time of EBCI purchase
Other EBCI buyers, based on time of EBCI purchase
People who've checked in 24 hours before the first flight on their itinerary, so people connecting A-B-C have a head start on people originating at B. These are in order of time of online checkin.
That, based on memory, gives the basics on how the numbers are determined. For how people actually board (if the rules are followed), add that people who are authorized to preboard go before A1, and families with children under 5, if they didn't get A passes, board between groups A and B.
A1-15 reserved for Business Select and people who've paid $40 to get into unused spots in those numbers
A-list Preferred
A-list
People who've bought EarlyBird checkin, with Anytime fares based on time of EBCI purchase
Other EBCI buyers, based on time of EBCI purchase
People who've checked in 24 hours before the first flight on their itinerary, so people connecting A-B-C have a head start on people originating at B. These are in order of time of online checkin.
That, based on memory, gives the basics on how the numbers are determined. For how people actually board (if the rules are followed), add that people who are authorized to preboard go before A1, and families with children under 5, if they didn't get A passes, board between groups A and B.
I suppose I just moved down the line for ECBI, right? I would like to think it is based on time of EBCI purchase...
Last edited by Sargenca; May 29, 2014 at 9:47 pm
May 29, 2014, 10:06 pm
#26
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 6,286
Question - Is the order based on EBCI time of purchase, or the Confirmation Date of the corresponding ticket, or whichever is later? I had to add a middle name to a passenger. Confirmation # is the same, but the Confirmation Date (on the email) changed. (from March-when I bought the tix; to May-when I made the change).
I suppose I just moved down the line for ECBI, right? I would like to think it is based on time of EBCI purchase...
I suppose I just moved down the line for ECBI, right? I would like to think it is based on time of EBCI purchase...
May 30, 2014, 6:48 am
#27
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 5,813
Also many airlines have seating charts on their website and you can find out how many seats are currently assigned. Airtran has them for example. It's not completely accurate, since paid passengers without seat assignments don't show but you can get good idea.
Southwest is particularly bad about providing information to passengers. Just look at how hard is is to find any information about your travel on their website.
May 30, 2014, 8:49 am
#29
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 5,813
You can also call and ask. I don't know Southwest's policy but Airtran would give you a general answer on the number of seats remaining.
When I want to take advantage of Airtran's same day free standby, I always call and ask availability. Sometimes the answers are vague sometimes they are very precise. But Since I have an assigned seat I don't really care that much.
Why are seat charts unreliable for load factors? They are not perfect but I can usually tell pretty well how full a flight will be.
May 30, 2014, 3:58 pm
#30
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Night Vale
Posts: 1,872
Like an earlier post, ask how full? A non-specific question is better. Don't ask how many open seats are there. Consider making an ops agent at your home airport your new BFF. I recall one clown that would bring pastries to schmooze cuz he wanted to pre-board. Usually worked until the gate staff figured out he was a certified jerk. Southwest has always hired folks that respond to someone with good people skills, at least in Austin.