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Old Dec 23, 2009, 1:50 pm
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My bet is definitely Cincinnati.

Reason: I believe Delta will give Cincinnati the heave ho come September (ala St. Louis w/AA and Pittsburgh w/US). Southwest loves to move in where a large chunk of capacity is coming out.
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Old Dec 23, 2009, 4:02 pm
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Originally Posted by COS flyer
My bet is definitely Cincinnati.

Reason: I believe Delta will give Cincinnati the heave ho come September (ala St. Louis w/AA and Pittsburgh w/US). Southwest loves to move in where a large chunk of capacity is coming out.
CVG would make sense. While some may think it'll dilute CMH, I think it'll affect competitor routes more, esp. AirTran FL in Dayton that has served as the LCC for the Cincinnati area. It'd also affect certain specific routes. If WN launches a CVG-BWI route, it'd be very much take share from FL 3x a day DAY-BWI.

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Old Dec 23, 2009, 4:08 pm
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At the time the SJTA scored the WestJet Toronto-Atlantic City route, SJTA had said they wanted a Chicago to Atlantic City route, with the hopes Chicago residents would go to the Atlantic City casinos. [My thought is SJTA should try to strengthen ACY-BOS with another airline and better frequency, rather than trying for Chicago right away]. The legacy airlines realize ACY is not their cup of tea.

So, if the SJTA/casino could create a lucrative deal for Southwest, much like the real estate developer in Panama City FL, WN could do 2x a day from ACY-MDW, much like they do 2x a day. Or ACY-CLE-MDW, if not to add more strain at MDW, with a side benefit of serving CLE to the PHL region. In end, still a better flight time into ACY, over AirTran which would go via Atlanta.

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Old Dec 26, 2009, 1:43 am
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Originally Posted by rtalk25
At the time the SJTA scored the WestJet Toronto-Atlantic City route, SJTA had said they wanted a Chicago to Atlantic City route, with the hopes Chicago residents would go to the Atlantic City casinos. [My thought is SJTA should try to strengthen ACY-BOS with another airline and better frequency, rather than trying for Chicago right away]. The legacy airlines realize ACY is not their cup of tea.

So, if the SJTA/casino could create a lucrative deal for Southwest, much like the real estate developer in Panama City FL, WN could do 2x a day from ACY-MDW, much like they do 2x a day. Or ACY-CLE-MDW, if not to add more strain at MDW, with a side benefit of serving CLE to the PHL region. In end, still a better flight time into ACY, over AirTran which would go via Atlanta.
I do NOT see ANC or SJU as ever penciling out. Not gonna happen!
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Old Dec 26, 2009, 10:08 am
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I'd much rather see WN expand at BOS and MSP first. BOS-PHL and BOS-MSP is an obvious start, and BOS-HOU, BOS-DTW, MSP-PHL, and MSP-LAX all have potential for at least 1x/day.
For my own selfish purposes, I hope they expand to BOS-PHL so I don't have to drive to MHT or PVD for my US flights to PHL. Hopefully competition will drive the price down from $1100 RT out of BOS.
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Old Dec 26, 2009, 11:15 am
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Originally Posted by curbcrusher
I don't think we'll see WN go anywhere but ATL if the actual intent is to serve Atlanta. Consider this excerpt from Christine Negroni's excellent Gary Kelly interview from last week:

...What happens when all of a sudden you have a low fare carrier comes to Logan? And now both airports compete on fares? We go to Logan...
A very interesting rationale. Going into an airport because low fare carriers are there... Hmm. Have to ponder that one. Have we seen that here as a case for opening a new station before? Well, bravo Southwest for declaring "It's on!" to their more serious competition -- AirTran, JetBlue and Virgin (though, in truth, AirTran and JetBlue have been in BOS for quite a while). Or, maybe it's about the benefit of, in effect, joining arms with other LCCs in bringing down a fortress airport? Probably it's about a different rationale and strategy for each airport. Sometimes because there are no other LCCs; sometimes because there are. And in this case, that might include competing with themselves at MHT and PVD, despite protestations to the contrary. Isn't that what Mr. Kelly is saying?

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Old Dec 27, 2009, 3:03 pm
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Originally Posted by maltasr
I do NOT see ANC or SJU as ever penciling out. Not gonna happen!
It will have need to be installed the ETOPS overwater restrictions with liferaft & lifevest, too. If mostly 73G will have to be cutoff 120 minutes ETOPS from FAA certifications. I am not commit about the overwater restrictions.
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Old Dec 27, 2009, 3:58 pm
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As an Atlanta based flyer I would LOVE to have SW.

I don't think it's happening anytime soon. No gates for sale! Delta and/or AirTran aren't giving up the slots to SW.

Not to mention why screw up thier ratings with our horrid airport and it's dismal "on time" ratings.

(I can't recall the last "on time" arrival I had here )
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Old Dec 28, 2009, 7:10 pm
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Originally Posted by CarolDisney1
As an Atlanta based flyer I would LOVE to have SW.

I don't think it's happening anytime soon. No gates for sale! Delta and/or AirTran aren't giving up the slots to SW.

Not to mention why screw up thier ratings with our horrid airport and it's dismal "on time" ratings.

(I can't recall the last "on time" arrival I had here )
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Old Dec 28, 2009, 7:15 pm
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I would love to see them come to ATL
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Old Dec 28, 2009, 7:18 pm
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Originally Posted by lilj4425
They'll go to GSP over CLT or ATL so they can get traffic from those metro areas. Why go to CLT or ATL when you can locate between the two at GSP? ATL and CLT already have LLC's also.
Atlanta pax go to BHM, Clt is too far.
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Old Dec 28, 2009, 10:09 pm
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GSP is the one.It'd be the same for GSP(as the BHM run out I-20 W, and many do that and have for years), just a quick run up I-85 no need to get off 85 until you get to the GSP airport exit from ATL.Plus lots of business travel out of GSP area for many manufacturing concerns,you name it,tire companies, auto parts/auto manufacturers and many more.Plenty of room for expansion also at GSP if needed and GSP airport would welcome WN with anything I am sure.
I don't think MEM or ATL is a reality.
The CRJ idea, RJ"s are parked all over the US unused when fuel prices changed. I go by an airport every day where RJ's sit, over 40 parked some with engines stripped, almost new.RJ's are not feasible right now, and WN is too savvy to go that route.
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Old Dec 29, 2009, 12:49 am
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Originally Posted by N830MH
It will have need to be installed the ETOPS overwater restrictions with liferaft & lifevest, too. If mostly 73G will have to be cutoff 120 minutes ETOPS from FAA certifications. I am not commit about the overwater restrictions.
Sorry, but I can't recall the ETOPS acronym. Can you refresh my memory?

Thanks.
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Old Dec 29, 2009, 1:46 am
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Originally Posted by maltasr
Sorry, but I can't recall the ETOPS acronym. Can you refresh my memory?

Thanks.
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Old Dec 29, 2009, 4:24 am
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Originally Posted by N830MH
Hi All,

I've hearing a rumors from WN will next 4 new cities to be announced in 2010. I am not quite sure for which one is that. I think WN is considering CLT, GSO, CAE, BIL, DSM, FAR, ANC, SJU and of course Hawaii, too.
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Though CLT or GSP would be OK, CHS wouldn't be bad, not that anyone cares....
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