MH to join ST
Mar 28, 2006, 9:08 am
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Originally Posted by hfly
When SU, MH and CZ join, will ST then be the largest alliance??
Just kidding, but Star alliance will still be bigger.
Mar 28, 2006, 11:55 am
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Originally Posted by hfly
Yeah but SU is of decent size
Definitely bigger than Tyrolean and Blue1 combined
Mar 28, 2006, 1:22 pm
#34
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I've just run the numbers and if CZ, MH, SU and KQ join up the Skyteam will be pretty much even with Star Alliance after Swiss and SAA join up, with roughly 400 million pax each (according to 2005 numbers). Iactually get about 401 million and change for *, and 399 for Skyteam, both leaving OneWorld in the dust, which will have only a bit more than 300 million oax even after JAL, Malev and Royal Air Jordanian joining up.
Mar 28, 2006, 7:00 pm
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Originally Posted by hfly
... both leaving OneWorld in the dust, which will have only a bit more than 300 million oax even after JAL, Malev and Royal Air Jordanian joining up.
Apr 10, 2006, 9:30 pm
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Originally Posted by AX9465
<snipped> you was able to buy F seat on PEN-KUL leg of their LON-KUL service for RM 230... this is nothing provided one would able to drink a bottle of DP (as some have proven) which is MORE expensive. needless to say it also generated confusion along the pax when MH mixed holiday and business traffic on the route... I preferred SQ LHR-SIN-PEN over direct MH LHR-PEN exactly to avoid holidaying traffic.
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But getting back to the subject thread, MH already gives mileage on NW and DL. So, what's to stop them from acceptance into ST?
Apr 10, 2006, 11:14 pm
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There's got to be some major costs in joining up front, having to revamp flights, schedules, frequent flier programs, lounges, as well as computer programs, reservation systems, service standards....blah blah blah....also not sure how much each airline has to contribute to the alliance operating costs and such....
Doesn't sound like MH has lots of extra $$ right now...
Long term it seems to be a good investment....
Doesn't sound like MH has lots of extra $$ right now...
Long term it seems to be a good investment....
Apr 13, 2006, 10:56 am
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Originally Posted by kkua
But getting back to the subject thread, MH already gives mileage on NW and DL. So, what's to stop them from acceptance into ST?
Jan 12, 2007, 7:36 pm
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Do anybody have any new info on the possibiliy of MH to join Skyteam? I am reloacating to SIN for at least one year and it would be nice to have a SE Asian partner in Skyteam. However I don't have my hopes up very high, this since that whenever an Airline is to join Skyteam it always seems to be a time consuming affair.
Regards Anders
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Jan 12, 2007, 10:54 pm
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I'd welcome another option for EWR-ARN and an ARN-KUL non-stop that earns miles in my SkyTeam programs of choice.
Apr 13, 2007, 10:44 pm
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May 19, 2007, 8:32 pm
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ST And SE Asia
Do anybody have any new info on the possibiliy of MH to join Skyteam? I am reloacating to SIN for at least one year and it would be nice to have a SE Asian partner in Skyteam. However I don't have my hopes up very high, this since that whenever an Airline is to join Skyteam it always seems to be a time consuming affair.
Regards Anders
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A SE Asia ST partner has been discussed for years. Over this period of time there have been rumors that TG or SQ may leave *A. Talk of MH joining ST has been discussed ad nauseam. Matter of fact, if MH ever joins, it probably would be anticlimactic.
Instead of waiting forever, in the final analysis, maybe ST should go after BI. At least there would be a SE Asia partner in our favorite alliance.
Jun 5, 2007, 4:55 pm
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MAS still interested in joining alliance: CEO
Nicholas Ionides, Vancouver (04Jun07, 01:06 GMT, 305 words)
Malaysia Airlines (MAS) is still interested in joining a multilateral alliance but has made it less of a priority as it has focused on implementing restructuring initiatives over the past 18 months.
Managing director and CEO Idris Jala said at a briefing on the sidelines of the IATA annual general meeting in Vancouver: “That has always been on the cards. If the opportunity does arrive we will look at this.”
However he says that “we are not in active talks with alliances” and the airline has been successful in building up its network reach through bilateral codeshare agreements, such as with South African Airways of the Star Alliance and Alitalia of SkyTeam. Both those agreements were signed this year.
Jala also says that “a few more [are] in the pipeline” at a bilateral level, and talks are taking place with one airline in China and one in India which he will not identify. China Southern Airlines is seen as the most likely candidate in China.
“To my mind we get a lot of the benefits of the alliance in what we are doing” at a bilateral level, although he says that missing are the full benefits of loyalty programme ties with all members of a multilateral grouping.
MAS, which has long been seen as a potential future member of SkyTeam, has been implementing a wide-ranging restructuring programme since soon after Jala took over as head of the carrier at the end of 2005. He says that successfully implementing all aspects of its so-called Business Turnaround Plan remains the priority.
Restructuring initiatives have comprised a fleet and network downsizing as well as manpower reductions, among other things, and they have been producing results more quickly than expected.
Late last month full-year profit forecasts were significantly increased after much better-than-expected earnings were recorded in the first quarter.
Source: Air Transport Intelligence news
MAS still interested in joining alliance: CEO
Nicholas Ionides, Vancouver (04Jun07, 01:06 GMT, 305 words)
Malaysia Airlines (MAS) is still interested in joining a multilateral alliance but has made it less of a priority as it has focused on implementing restructuring initiatives over the past 18 months.
Managing director and CEO Idris Jala said at a briefing on the sidelines of the IATA annual general meeting in Vancouver: “That has always been on the cards. If the opportunity does arrive we will look at this.”
However he says that “we are not in active talks with alliances” and the airline has been successful in building up its network reach through bilateral codeshare agreements, such as with South African Airways of the Star Alliance and Alitalia of SkyTeam. Both those agreements were signed this year.
Jala also says that “a few more [are] in the pipeline” at a bilateral level, and talks are taking place with one airline in China and one in India which he will not identify. China Southern Airlines is seen as the most likely candidate in China.
“To my mind we get a lot of the benefits of the alliance in what we are doing” at a bilateral level, although he says that missing are the full benefits of loyalty programme ties with all members of a multilateral grouping.
MAS, which has long been seen as a potential future member of SkyTeam, has been implementing a wide-ranging restructuring programme since soon after Jala took over as head of the carrier at the end of 2005. He says that successfully implementing all aspects of its so-called Business Turnaround Plan remains the priority.
Restructuring initiatives have comprised a fleet and network downsizing as well as manpower reductions, among other things, and they have been producing results more quickly than expected.
Late last month full-year profit forecasts were significantly increased after much better-than-expected earnings were recorded in the first quarter.
Source: Air Transport Intelligence news
