SkyTeam announce UX, KQ, CM, RO entry as Associate airline
Jul 5, 2005, 8:26 am
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Originally Posted by NickB
Interestingly, the fact that ST would only offer MA associate membership, against full membership in OW, was one of the factors pushing MA to go for OW rather than ST (see here).
“Of the three big airline alliances – Star Alliance, SkyTeam and Oneworld – only the members of the latter collectively made profits last year,” noted Gönci. “SkyTeam offered only associate membership, while Oneworld will welcome Malév as a full member. In addition, one of the members of SkyTeam is Czech airline ČSA, which would not have been beneficial for us given its geographical proximity.”
The point for Skyteam of having a block west (AF/KL) and a block east is to have mutual feeding from one to another. AF and KL cannot get much market from east to west themselves, Austrian can. Having routings through Malev (more for southern connection with alitalia...) and CSA (more for northern connection with AF/KL) would have been quite clever.
And that is why i think they offer Tarom associate membership.
I am finally not surprise to see Malev joining oneworld, i'm sure OW made some very good conditions for them. OW has members in the eadges of Europe that one cannot realistically transfer with. Iberia, Finnair, BA... they needed a partner in central europe to relay them to more regional destination and without Malev, it would have been difficult for them, since LH bought LX recently.
Jul 5, 2005, 9:18 am
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Originally Posted by ranskis
Malev also states the following:
"In addition, one of the members of SkyTeam is Czech airline ČSA, which would not have been beneficial for us given its geographical proximity.”
"In addition, one of the members of SkyTeam is Czech airline ČSA, which would not have been beneficial for us given its geographical proximity.”
Oct 29, 2005, 4:30 pm
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Any news on how long can take the associated memebership process? Does it will take the same time for all the four airlines? The MOU with Aeroflot was signed in May, 2004 and we are still waitng...
Oct 29, 2005, 7:53 pm
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Originally Posted by rpg1973
Any news on how long can take the associated memebership process? Does it will take the same time for all the four airlines? The MOU with Aeroflot was signed in May, 2004 and we are still waitng...
PS And SU hopes to get in in March, 2006
Oct 30, 2005, 10:28 am
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I wonder if the Associate airlines will be able to upgrade to Full-fledged airlines. I still don't think Kenya (or COPA I suppose) should be Associate airlines. I mean, Kenya's operations are more extensive than CSA, aren't they?
What airline is PS? Ukraine Airlines? If so, I didn't know they signed a MOU as well. I wonder how close any of the Chinese airlines are to either of the alliances.
What airline is PS? Ukraine Airlines? If so, I didn't know they signed a MOU as well. I wonder how close any of the Chinese airlines are to either of the alliances.
Oct 31, 2005, 12:27 pm
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Originally Posted by NickB
Not necessarily. It may make sense for Air Europa to stay independent, FFP-wise, in particular if they want to co-operate with Latin American airlines (such as Aeropostal) outside ST,
Oct 31, 2005, 12:30 pm
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Originally Posted by samsonyuen
What airline is PS? Ukraine Airlines? If so, I didn't know they signed a MOU as well. I wonder how close any of the Chinese airlines are to either of the alliances.
Nov 5, 2005, 10:57 pm
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South America
Originally Posted by Mr. DeMucho
Still no South American airline in SkyTeam. I was pretty confident that TAM would be one of the four new associate airlines, given the alliances with KLM & Air France. Disappointing. 
http://www.aeromexico.com/usa/englis...nces_list.html
Of course you have the Skyteam alliance (not counting the 4 new ones) and the other ones, well, you have LanChile and Taca that do cover South America, also Mexicana and Aeromexico do this service.
List of airlines in the alliance:
Aerocaribe / Aerocozumel
Aeromar
Air France / KLM
Alitalia
Continental
Czech Airlines
Delta
LanChile
El Al
Korean Air
Mexicana
Northwest
Taca
Nov 6, 2005, 5:49 am
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Originally Posted by joquiroz
South America is somewhat serviced by Aeromexico and it's alliances.
Not very extensive, but there is basic coverage of South America- see http://skyteam.com/EN/aboutSkyteam/d...p/samerica.jsp
That should increase both with the new members and since DL says it want's to increase it's international routing.
Feb 2, 2007, 6:57 am
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A year and a half later, UX, KQ and CM reinforce their commitment to join ST - or, as Reuters puts it, "joined" the alliance today.
Looks like Tarom is out
Looks like Tarom is out
Feb 2, 2007, 8:11 am
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A year and a half later, UX, KQ and CM reinforce their commitment to join ST - or, as Reuters puts it, "joined" the alliance today.
Looks like Tarom is out
Looks like Tarom is out
Feb 2, 2007, 4:03 pm
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Feb 10, 2007, 6:21 am
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I was today spotting planes at my airport and one of my colleages told me about the "possibility" of Alitalia leaving the alliance as there are rumours and their newest planes aren't showing the SkyTeam sticker. Does anyone knows something about it?