Being Krisflyer Gold based in LA flying UA/SQ
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Being Krisflyer Gold based in LA flying UA/SQ
Is it worth it?
Currently I am UA Premier Gold and I fly on UA from LAX to the East Coast monthly on Economy, and I fly to Asia 4-5x a year on UA or SQ. I like the perk of being able to book Economy Plus seats with my Gold status and same day flight changes.
I am wondering, because I collect points on AMEX and they don't transfer to UA, should I switch to Krisflyer? Are there disadvantages of being Krisflyer Gold being based in LA? I can access United Club on domestic United flights if I'm Krisflyer Gold right?
Currently I am UA Premier Gold and I fly on UA from LAX to the East Coast monthly on Economy, and I fly to Asia 4-5x a year on UA or SQ. I like the perk of being able to book Economy Plus seats with my Gold status and same day flight changes.
I am wondering, because I collect points on AMEX and they don't transfer to UA, should I switch to Krisflyer? Are there disadvantages of being Krisflyer Gold being based in LA? I can access United Club on domestic United flights if I'm Krisflyer Gold right?
Last edited by BeEasyMark; Aug 23, 2019 at 10:10 pm
#2
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Would have to see what benefit you have now and what you want to enjoy. Assuming UA ticket stock on UA flights:
UA Premier Gold gets
UA MM miles
no SDC fee
free E+ seating at time of booking
100% PQM for most economy flights (50% only on basic economy)
8x fare in RDMs
Complimentary upgrades (if you even get it)
SQ gold gets
at least 25% RDM and EQM, depending on fare class.
Lounge access even when flying domestic.
It seems that if it is economy and "cheapest available economy", then Mileage Plus would be better, especially with the E+ and PQM, otherwise, you might not even qualify for Krisflyer Gold. Assuming about 5k miles roundtrip and 12 trips a year, nets you 60k PQM on Mileage Plus, but depending on the fare class, may net you less than 50k miles a year on Krisflyer.
UA Premier Gold gets
UA MM miles
no SDC fee
free E+ seating at time of booking
100% PQM for most economy flights (50% only on basic economy)
8x fare in RDMs
Complimentary upgrades (if you even get it)
SQ gold gets
at least 25% RDM and EQM, depending on fare class.
Lounge access even when flying domestic.
It seems that if it is economy and "cheapest available economy", then Mileage Plus would be better, especially with the E+ and PQM, otherwise, you might not even qualify for Krisflyer Gold. Assuming about 5k miles roundtrip and 12 trips a year, nets you 60k PQM on Mileage Plus, but depending on the fare class, may net you less than 50k miles a year on Krisflyer.
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Is it worth it?
Currently I am UA Premier Gold and I fly on UA from LAX to the East Coast monthly on Economy, and I fly to Asia 4-5x a year on UA or SQ. I like the perk of being able to book Economy Plus seats with my Gold status and same day flight changes.
I am wondering, because I collect points on AMEX and they don't transfer to UA, should I switch to Krisflyer? Are there disadvantages of being Krisflyer Gold being based in LA? I can access United Club on domestic United flights if I'm Krisflyer Gold right?
Currently I am UA Premier Gold and I fly on UA from LAX to the East Coast monthly on Economy, and I fly to Asia 4-5x a year on UA or SQ. I like the perk of being able to book Economy Plus seats with my Gold status and same day flight changes.
I am wondering, because I collect points on AMEX and they don't transfer to UA, should I switch to Krisflyer? Are there disadvantages of being Krisflyer Gold being based in LA? I can access United Club on domestic United flights if I'm Krisflyer Gold right?
https://www.singaporeair.com/saar5/p...FOALLevels.pdf
I don't think KF Gold is easy to maintain. A3 is slightly more lenient in terms of UA economy booking classes-- Q accrues 75% on SQ/ 100% on A3, K/G accrue 25% on SQ/ 50% on A3 (but for some reason W accrues 75% on SQ/ 50% on A3), basic economy still earns 50% RDMs on A3 but nada on SQ. The A3 thresholds are lower (other than from the isolated case where you start from scratch and don't fly any A3 segments, but subsequently renewal will still be lower). Also the A3 award chart has lower rates and more sweet spots than the KF one.
For context, I'm based in SIN. My credit cards give me KF miles, and I had KF Gold for a year from work, but even so I've decided to cross over to A3.
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UA's program is generally better than SQ.
Notwithstanding the miles you can earn, KF Gold will only get you whatever published. You won't get anything more than that. Also, switching to KF means you will lose E+ at check-in, CPU (even slim chance), SDC in exchange for the lounge benefit for your domestic flights, which can practically resolved by paying $400 to Chase (Club Card). I believe E+ along is $600+
Notwithstanding the miles you can earn, KF Gold will only get you whatever published. You won't get anything more than that. Also, switching to KF means you will lose E+ at check-in, CPU (even slim chance), SDC in exchange for the lounge benefit for your domestic flights, which can practically resolved by paying $400 to Chase (Club Card). I believe E+ along is $600+
#5
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UA's program is generally better than SQ.
Notwithstanding the miles you can earn, KF Gold will only get you whatever published. You won't get anything more than that. Also, switching to KF means you will lose E+ at check-in, CPU (even slim chance), SDC in exchange for the lounge benefit for your domestic flights, which can practically resolved by paying $400 to Chase (Club Card). I believe E+ along is $600+
Notwithstanding the miles you can earn, KF Gold will only get you whatever published. You won't get anything more than that. Also, switching to KF means you will lose E+ at check-in, CPU (even slim chance), SDC in exchange for the lounge benefit for your domestic flights, which can practically resolved by paying $400 to Chase (Club Card). I believe E+ along is $600+
Let's not forget that if OP earns enough miles through flying and cc spend, he can use the miles to upgrade or redeem outright in J or F on SQ if he so chooses. Using UA miles he would not have access to the same inventory at all. I don't know if it is important at all to OP, but it is another factor to consider. On the other hand, if OP plans to redeem his miles on UA or other *A partners, then sticking to UA may be the better option. Where I do agree with garykung is that domestic lounge access may be bought by various means if OP sticks with UA. I'm not familiar with US-based cards, but some may even give it for free as a perk, depending on the card.
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Would have to see what benefit you have now and what you want to enjoy. Assuming UA ticket stock on UA flights:
UA Premier Gold gets
UA MM miles
no SDC fee
free E+ seating at time of booking
100% PQM for most economy flights (50% only on basic economy)
8x fare in RDMs
Complimentary upgrades (if you even get it)
SQ gold gets
at least 25% RDM and EQM, depending on fare class.
Lounge access even when flying domestic.
It seems that if it is economy and "cheapest available economy", then Mileage Plus would be better, especially with the E+ and PQM, otherwise, you might not even qualify for Krisflyer Gold. Assuming about 5k miles roundtrip and 12 trips a year, nets you 60k PQM on Mileage Plus, but depending on the fare class, may net you less than 50k miles a year on Krisflyer.
UA Premier Gold gets
UA MM miles
no SDC fee
free E+ seating at time of booking
100% PQM for most economy flights (50% only on basic economy)
8x fare in RDMs
Complimentary upgrades (if you even get it)
SQ gold gets
at least 25% RDM and EQM, depending on fare class.
Lounge access even when flying domestic.
It seems that if it is economy and "cheapest available economy", then Mileage Plus would be better, especially with the E+ and PQM, otherwise, you might not even qualify for Krisflyer Gold. Assuming about 5k miles roundtrip and 12 trips a year, nets you 60k PQM on Mileage Plus, but depending on the fare class, may net you less than 50k miles a year on Krisflyer.
I think the main reason I want to be Krisflyer Gold is to consolidate my AMEX MR and airline miles into one system. Redemption is the main priority. Right now, I am earning AMEX MR points that can only be transferred to Krisflyer or ANA, while my flying on UA earns UA miles. In terms of earning Krisflyer Gold, I'm due for 2 more trips LAX-SIN by the end of the year. 3 trips LAX-SIN on Premium Economy gets me to Gold.
The main benefit on UA Premier Gold to me is EconomyPlus and SDC. I don't think the 100% PQM matters to me if I'm Krisflyer Gold, and I've only been upgraded maybe once or twice on United. There are too many 1Ks on the West Coast.
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Thanks for all the replies.
I think the main reason I want to be Krisflyer Gold is to consolidate my AMEX MR and airline miles into one system. Redemption is the main priority. Right now, I am earning AMEX MR points that can only be transferred to Krisflyer or ANA, while my flying on UA earns UA miles. In terms of earning Krisflyer Gold, I'm due for 2 more trips LAX-SIN by the end of the year. 3 trips LAX-SIN on Premium Economy gets me to Gold.
The main benefit on UA Premier Gold to me is EconomyPlus and SDC. I don't think the 100% PQM matters to me if I'm Krisflyer Gold, and I've only been upgraded maybe once or twice on United. There are too many 1Ks on the West Coast.
I think the main reason I want to be Krisflyer Gold is to consolidate my AMEX MR and airline miles into one system. Redemption is the main priority. Right now, I am earning AMEX MR points that can only be transferred to Krisflyer or ANA, while my flying on UA earns UA miles. In terms of earning Krisflyer Gold, I'm due for 2 more trips LAX-SIN by the end of the year. 3 trips LAX-SIN on Premium Economy gets me to Gold.
The main benefit on UA Premier Gold to me is EconomyPlus and SDC. I don't think the 100% PQM matters to me if I'm Krisflyer Gold, and I've only been upgraded maybe once or twice on United. There are too many 1Ks on the West Coast.
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I think the main reason I want to be Krisflyer Gold is to consolidate my AMEX MR and airline miles into one system. Redemption is the main priority. Right now, I am earning AMEX MR points that can only be transferred to Krisflyer or ANA, while my flying on UA earns UA miles. In terms of earning Krisflyer Gold, I'm due for 2 more trips LAX-SIN by the end of the year.
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I disagree. Its only better if
- You need economy plus
- You need to check bags
- You want to participate in Upgrade lottery, which lets agree if a joke
If you buy domestic first outright like me, its pretty worthless. Even with instruments its worthless.
SDC is possible, even if you are not elite on UA.
- You need economy plus
- You need to check bags
- You want to participate in Upgrade lottery, which lets agree if a joke
If you buy domestic first outright like me, its pretty worthless. Even with instruments its worthless.
SDC is possible, even if you are not elite on UA.
Last edited by OpenSky; Aug 27, 2019 at 2:24 pm
#11
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OP should be clearing 120k PQM a year (lax-ewr RT is 5k, lax-sin RT is 15k. 12*5k + 4*15k)
*If OP flies SQ lowest fare, it earns 0 PQM. If OP flies basic, 50% PQM
Probably OP is based in USA and is subject to PQD, otherwise this would get OP 1K status on UA
Even so, this will take OP 8-10years to earn 1MM lifetime UA gold. Is it worth it? Probably, especially because UA miles don't expire as long as there's activity, but u don't earn as many miles
KF miles expire after 3 years, (can pay to extend another 6-12 months, but nothing after that)
*If OP flies SQ lowest fare, it earns 0 PQM. If OP flies basic, 50% PQM
Probably OP is based in USA and is subject to PQD, otherwise this would get OP 1K status on UA
Even so, this will take OP 8-10years to earn 1MM lifetime UA gold. Is it worth it? Probably, especially because UA miles don't expire as long as there's activity, but u don't earn as many miles
KF miles expire after 3 years, (can pay to extend another 6-12 months, but nothing after that)
Last edited by paperwastage; Aug 27, 2019 at 3:30 pm
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IMO the only reason to earn KF miles is to redeem on SQ. Correspondingly, the goal of consolidating all points in one program only makes sense if there is a clear goal, e.g., "I'm saving for two RT Suites awards on SQ."
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For sure, the main reason for accumulating KF miles is that I fly to Southeast Asia or Tokyo from LAX. I'd like to be redeem some of those flights on J.
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The J redemption rates to Southeast Asia one-way are 62.5K with OZ, 68k with NH, 75k with A3, 75-90k with UA MP, 77.5k with Aeroplan and 95/97.5k with SQ KF...unless you really have to have SQ metal (BR is better TPAC these days), choosing KF would be doing your best to pick the losing horse.