aster

I wish that would happen. I think we're all waiting to see how saver awards will work out with the new fleet...

ThWilmesi

Just one comment:

this must be a joke - Singapore airlines FFP for redemption is truly a joke in particular in their premium classes. When I look already that with the 777-300ER (new F-Class) they dont allow for saver award redemption but only a standard award redemption - meaning 330.000 miles minimum ( well mighty cheap if you look in comparison to A380 Suites redemption)...this is already gross, i fly often SIN-FRA on the 777-300ER, and i very rarely see a passenger in the F-Class, actually just coming back, last Sunday 0 passengers, and today 1 passenger which was a SQ captain on transfer. Truly a joke..... I dont know how they do their book keeping but for mileage earned they have to do provisions on their balance sheet... but maybe their cash flow is really that great...

once again - SQ makes really up to his nickname: Heaven in the air, hell on the ground.

aster

Well, for most of us the in-flight experience is key. We could quote a Metallica song here: "Nothing else matters."

As for the rest - the SQ experience on the ground in SIN is heaven compared to the LH experience at FRA - a true hell-hole of an airport.

macabus

I agree that FRA is a hellhole of an airport, but the LH experience at the First Class Terminal beats the pants off SQ in SIN.

You're greeted by a dedicated personal assistant who escorts you through a private security screening and remains attentive during your stay. The selection at the elegant bar is world-class, with dozens of top-shelf Scotches, Cognacs and super-premium Tequilas. The wine list includes 4 different Champagnes, 6 whites and six reds.

The sit-down restaurant offers fine dining that is as good or better than SKL or TPR.

And when it's time for your flight, you are chauffered directly to the airplane in a Mercedes sedan, and escorted right onto the plane.

I'm a huge fan of SQ F in the air. LH F is good in the air, but not great.

But the experience of departing from the FCT is second to none.

pnsnkr

Now, now, don't you be dissing the venerable Megatop. You know that she's aged very gracefully and deserves more respect than that.

aster

That's exactly what it feels like. Basically a cop-out to say "you can now book an award ticket in our Suites" even though common logic tells you it's not a viable option.

weero

Are you not afraid - living in Singa and smoking such strong stuff?

For an anorexic breathatarian or vegan who never showers, the SIN lounge experience might be thrilling ... for normal people who are used to Asian standards, SQ's coach Gulag experience offers the cold shower feeling, these people cannot get within the lounge.

I concede that the premium lounges are ok though.
You are right. And big ^ to SQ for having the balls of giving their ancient flagship such a pornographic name in prudish Singapore.

kitsura

Agree the *G lounge in SIN is a joke. I always go there for a sip of water and free internet without the annoying wireless@SG stuff.

SMK77

Assuming that SQ is selling their Krisflyer miles at 1 SGD-Cent (to banks and other partners), the total price for the R ticket SIN-LHR is matching the full fare price 1:1.

2,000,000 miles come to 20,000 SGD which is the full fare rate and I understand that SQ is not discounting R, hence there is not cheaper way of getting into R by purchasing miles.

SQ is giving 325% mileage accrual for flying Suites. That's about 50 flights (or a 2% discount) to get a free flight. This fits into their policy of not discounting very well.

Opening up Suites for redemptions might also come with a change in SQ's op-up policy. In the past, SQ was not offering op-ups from Business to Suites even when Suites were empty and Elite members on the waiting list for full fare Business.

Krisflyer is not an attractive program but the double-dipping allows to credit bonus miles into another program while still qualifying/re-qualifying for Elite Status. The only thing missing is to enforce that a certain quota of First and Business seats is given to Star Alliance partners as there are no award seats for Star Alliance partner on all A380/77W/345 flights at present.

aster

I ain't Asian and I certainly ain't smoking anything good here!

I don't look at the showers here as I always fly to/from SIN - I never sit around the airport for many hours, tired as heck, because I don't want to do a stopover. And without one who needs the showers?

As for the lounges, I'm not a fan of the standard one for general *G admission. Then again, the ones in FRA are no better.

As for the premium ones, I hope my next flight on LH C will let me into that one... to compensate me for having to step onboard an LH flight.

macabus

You must be flying LH F to get into the FCT or FCL.

Since you have never been to the FCT, you really have no basis to make comparisons.

El_Chiflero

Couldn't be more wrong. CX's MP program may not be the best thing....but at least they don't make you redeem 1,000,000 miles for HKG-JFK on the 77W in F; arguably one of the best flights you can fly commercially right now.

my 2 cents on the SQ R awards:They really could care less about the miels you earn on your program. I don't think I'd take a status match to SQ KF Gold even if they offered it!

QF Lad

Unfortunately I don't see this being likely. What we are seeing with the Krisflyer program is a reduction in the value of the KF points with every announcement/ enhancement.


The ability to use 3,100,000 points to redeem an AUD $24,000 fare reduces the value per KF point. This appears to be a trend in the KF program, with the value of KF points previously being reduced with the introduction of the 77W and the A380 aircraft.


While no-one knows for sure what the future holds, there is no doubt that the general trend in the program over a number of years now, how been for the value of each KF point to decrease.

ThWilmesi

Very nicely said I can only agree, I recently flew F-Class on SQ ex SIN Terminal 3 - and mildly said the ground services are disappointing... you even have to find your own way to the F-Class Lounge also with regard to the FCT Lounge in FRA and their services, dont forget that if you are flying ex FRA or arriving for a transfer (same in MUC) your private limousine (e.g. S-Class) awaits you at the bottom of the airplane in particular if you are on an outside position, same they bring you from the FCT to the plane in a private limousine and bring you personally into the plane bypassing all crowds - well I maintain what i say... in principle the service with SQ stops once you exit the plane even if you fly F-Class...

concerning the product in the air - well I also agree that SQ F is better than LH F - the seats are better totally agree, the drinks in particular the Champagne is for me better, although the Heidsick Rare Cuvee on LH has wone a couple of prices.... Food not much difference in my opinion... but I guess really it is a matter of personal opinion.... and preference

flyGreg

Inflation is part of everyday life, that's why I don't hoard cash under my bed. As long as the devaluation is reasonable, I accept it.

Rather than criticising SQ all the time, why not focus on the positives. I can redeem SQ MEL-FRA return at ~125,000 KF miles in business saver. And I can get seats on most days.

QF charge 256,000 points for business class return - and good luck finding one (old sloping) seat, let alone two. If I want premium SQ A380 and 77W I can pay ~256,000 KF miles and get seats on virtually any flight which isn't full.

I support SQ keeping A380/77W premium seats away from alliance partners. The product is superior and I am happy paying more for it. If you just want cheap, use your SQ miles for a Star Saver award and fly Thai/LH/Swiss.