Multiple injuries due to turbulence (QR17-DOH-DUB)
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Multiple injuries due to turbulence (QR17-DOH-DUB)
Just happened a few hours ago.
Sounds awful, I guess that QR didn't learn anything from SQ.
I am not surprised, as I took this same flight a few days ago and had turbulence as well. No attempt to find smooth air.
Service in Biz was abysmal as well.
https://www.rte.ie/news/2024/0526/1451323-airport-dublin-turbulence/
Sounds awful, I guess that QR didn't learn anything from SQ.
I am not surprised, as I took this same flight a few days ago and had turbulence as well. No attempt to find smooth air.
Service in Biz was abysmal as well.
https://www.rte.ie/news/2024/0526/1451323-airport-dublin-turbulence/
#2
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It reads like this was another incidence of clear air turbulence. It has been widely reported that flight crew can't see that coming. If they had seen turbulence coming then all airlines would put the seat belt signs on. In my experience they all seem a bit over cautious about that. And sometimes the way around the worst of it is still very bumpy. None of us has any way of knowing what the flight crew have done to mitigate the problem.
Best wishes to all injured.
Realistically, what do you expect airlines to learn, other than no service when the seat belt signs are on (which the article says they weren't). Or possibly no service at all, which of course would make the in flight offering even worse than you felt it was?
Best wishes to all injured.
Realistically, what do you expect airlines to learn, other than no service when the seat belt signs are on (which the article says they weren't). Or possibly no service at all, which of course would make the in flight offering even worse than you felt it was?
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It reads like this was another incidence of clear air turbulence. It has been widely reported that flight crew can't see that coming. If they had seen turbulence coming then all airlines would put the seat belt signs on.
Best wishes to all injured.
Realistically, what do you expect airlines to learn, other than no service when the seat belt signs are on (which the article says they weren't). Or possibly no service at all, which of course would make the in flight offering even worse than you felt it was?
Best wishes to all injured.
Realistically, what do you expect airlines to learn, other than no service when the seat belt signs are on (which the article says they weren't). Or possibly no service at all, which of course would make the in flight offering even worse than you felt it was?
These carriers that fly over less populated regions at night (aka hard to see what's below) should be operating with the radar on at all times. If we get that level of detail from the SQ321 investigation, at least, we will know if pilot training/ops needs to be adjusted by these carriers.
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If there are conclusive findings from the SQ (and this) investigation that recommend changes to standard operations then all carriers, rather than just "these carriers", will be obligated to implement them. Probably best to wait for the experts on this one.
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Absolutely.
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https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5117ev8n7xo
Some detail here suggests the turbulence happened over Turkey, and like the SQ flight also during a meal service.
And again it seems some people weren't wearing seatbelts (even ignoring the fact it was a meal service – the BBC report quotes someone who says she was asleep).
Some detail here suggests the turbulence happened over Turkey, and like the SQ flight also during a meal service.
And again it seems some people weren't wearing seatbelts (even ignoring the fact it was a meal service – the BBC report quotes someone who says she was asleep).
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8 people require hospital treatment, but the flight continues for a couple of hours after the incident (Turkey - Dublin is about 4 hours or so) without medical diversion .
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I write this in a half silly mood, but we've seen stranger rules come up from accidents in aviation.
-A
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What makes you think that?
On your flight, perhaps. I was on this flight a couple of days ago and the service was excellent (in business).
You think that they don't?
On your flight, perhaps. I was on this flight a couple of days ago and the service was excellent (in business).
You think that they don't?
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No attempt to find smooth air.
Service in Biz was abysmal as well.
https://www.rte.ie/news/2024/0526/14...in-turbulence/
Service in Biz was abysmal as well.
https://www.rte.ie/news/2024/0526/14...in-turbulence/
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My "no attempt to find smooth air" comment was that we stayed at 36k the entire flight. Sure, they might have been told by ATC that there was no better option.
Just an observation
Just an observation