Does anyone know truly how profitable KLM's YEG-AMS route is?
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Does anyone know truly how profitable KLM's YEG-AMS route is?
This route has been in existence for quite a while now, and is actually the only TATL out of YEG now (has been for a few years).
KLM seems to have a big presence in Alberta. Can someone provide an explanation for this? Obviously I love to see it, but I also find it surprising that airlines like Lufthansa and BA have reduced (or suspended) operations in Alberta while KLM seems to have grown!
KLM seems to have a big presence in Alberta. Can someone provide an explanation for this? Obviously I love to see it, but I also find it surprising that airlines like Lufthansa and BA have reduced (or suspended) operations in Alberta while KLM seems to have grown!
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Alberta has many Dutch (farmers) O/D traffic and oil and gas YYC has additionally WESTJET hub, thus connections even during Corona times might be available.
YEG also as most of Canada ( except YUL ) has a large Indian community - lots of traffic YEG-AMS-India o/d travel
YEG also as most of Canada ( except YUL ) has a large Indian community - lots of traffic YEG-AMS-India o/d travel
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An acquaintance of mine is a FA on this route. On the times they've flown (usually weekends and Wednesday), the route was generally full.
No idea on profitability, but since it's YEG's only TATL, I would imagine it would be placed a higher premium for all those one-stop European connections.
No idea on profitability, but since it's YEG's only TATL, I would imagine it would be placed a higher premium for all those one-stop European connections.
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I was invited to the inaugural event in YEG, back in May 2015 I think. On the event, KLM clearly said they would like to thank Royal Dutch Shell and Alberta government. They offered a draw to win 2 R/T tickets to Europe that night and I think someone from Shell got it... Did meet a lot of personnel and managers from KL and DL, and surprised to see how closely they worked together (ticketing office, Sky Bonus, complaint handling).
Later that year I took the flight in June, the flight (A332) was around 70% full for a weekend flight. I had two seats in a row in Economy Comfort. I personally believe there shall be financial funds from the AB government and a contract between Shell and KLM to reserve a certain amount of seats on the AMS-YEG route otherwise this route may not sustain.
PS: >30% of the time this route has promo award in J, mostly 50% discount, very attractive but unfortunately, I have moved back to the east later that year though.
Later that year I took the flight in June, the flight (A332) was around 70% full for a weekend flight. I had two seats in a row in Economy Comfort. I personally believe there shall be financial funds from the AB government and a contract between Shell and KLM to reserve a certain amount of seats on the AMS-YEG route otherwise this route may not sustain.
PS: >30% of the time this route has promo award in J, mostly 50% discount, very attractive but unfortunately, I have moved back to the east later that year though.
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Dutch farmers deliver the highest productivity in the world and have been quite successful recently in consulting overseas to help drive up productivity elsewhere. While I think that oil is a somewhat more likely response, Dutch farmers in general are pretty jet-setting. And pretty loaded.
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